WSEX joins CRIS books with transfer fees !...

[Doug]

again, i never stated they have the best line ALL of the time, I stated they do SOME of the time. Your example proves nothing.

Matchbook, Pinny, Greek, Cris, 5 dimes, nobody had Montreal to win Grey Cup at +350 when I placed my very large wager, but WSEX did.... do to me those opportunites make them well worth while.

They'd be OK to have with Neteller, w/o it, they are not worth having, IMO.

Transfer fees and slow checks, and full vig negate any value, IMO.

It's easier if you're Canadian.

I do however want them to continue to exist, it would be bad, very bad... if they failed.

 

[D2bets]

Where is this info on their website?

 

[Doug]

Where is this info on their website?

I found this at TOW, called WSEX to verify... it is true, if you believe WSEX clerks... I do.

I wouldn't post this without verifying it first.

Great respect for you D2, BTW !

 

[Doug]

Doug says SS is sticking up for the sponsor book, just part of the Mod job. :missingte:missingte:think2:

WSEX is fairly useless, but that's just my opinion.

We could compare the rest of todays' games, but I think the result would be quite similar. I didn't hand pick the baseball game.

 

[Paterno]

Doug says SS is sticking up for the sponsor book, just part of the Mod job. :missingte:missingte:think2:

WSEX is fairly useless, but that's just my opinion.

We could compare the rest of todays' games, but I think the result would be quite similar. I didn't hand pick the baseball game.

Agree Doug! I have been bitching about their payout fees and timing for over a year. I used to like them but refuse to use them again until they get their act together.

 

[Doug]

Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Cusipz
Back in the day, WSEX was the only one fighting the good fight. They were also the first real 'underground' offshore for US customers - but written up in the WSJ and they had a cult following in the mid 90s.

They were the first to offer US-style interactives (as opposed to euro in-running or spread betting). Since they had a trading background, they offered 'Shorting' teams on futures right from the start. Something rare even today. The web interface basically hasn't changed in 10+ years. Fast, clear, and easy to use.

And of course, they always paid, there was no doubt.

Frankly, they cannibalized their own market with Matchbook...And the other reduced shops have hurt them (my WSEX account has been pretty inactive). And I've been amazed to read of the payout delay problems, but I guess times change.

But, I can see if you don't know the history, you would wouldn't understand the 'hard-on' people have for them. A true pioneer book.

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That is so right on ! I couldn't have said it more better myself. hno:

You can't deal -110 , and run an exchange at the same time, without expecting your -110 customers to want to go to the exchange.

 

[Doug]

again, i never stated they have the best line ALL of the time, I stated they do SOME of the time. Your example proves nothing.

Matchbook, Pinny, Greek, Cris, 5 dimes, nobody had Montreal to win Grey Cup at +350 when I placed my very large wager, but WSEX did.... do to me those opportunites make them well worth while.

Are we going all the way back to 2002 ??? :think2::missingte

Grey Cup Results

2007 - Saskatchewan Roughriders 23, Winnipeg Blue Bombers 19
2006 - B.C. Lions 25, Montreal Alouettes 14
2005 - Edmonton Eskimos 38, Montreal Alouettes 35, OT
2004 - Toronto Argonauts 27, B.C. Lions 19
2003 - Edmonton Eskimos 34, Montreal Alouettes 22
2002 - Montreal Alouettes 25, Edmonton Eskimos 16

 

[Doug]

Did Matchbook even exist in 2002 ?

Ya, if the best you can do is WSEX had a nice line 6 years ago, you need some new material ! :nohead:


I'm no CFL expert , but I believe the cup winner has not been decided for 2008.

 

[Cusipz]

thx for digging up my post Doug. I will always have a softspot for WSEX, but this fee really bothers me, as it's insanely hard to deposit to Matchbook - essentially the same company! I have no problem if they want to charge for cash going to Greek or 5D, etc.

I hope we can still get free xfer to Matchbook, let us know if you hear anything more. And SS, feel free to use that Ubermod powers of yours....

 

[SportSavant]

Doug,

with due respect....

I have been saying the same thing about BETCRIS, that despite their fees they have value, and they are no longer a sponsor...

 

[SportSavant]

No its this year to win the grey cup at +350

 

[Doug]

No its this year to win the grey cup at +350

What were the next best odds ?

 

[Doug]

Doug,

with due respect....

CRIS books have their place, without a doubt. I still don't like them, never have, but they are important, just as WSEX is important.

CRIS is a must have for $5,000 players.
I have been saying the same thing about BETCRIS, that despite their fees they have value, and they are no longer a sponsor...

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I replied in the middle.

 

[SportSavant]

doug,

if u think I am simply shilling, do you think I would actually put money on a line at WSEX if I could find a better line somewhere else, especially as a Canadian with pinnacle being wide open? If that is the case how do you explain these wagers I have made at WSEX lately, obviously I found the best number there these times....

09/08/2008 07:28:29 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:27 $450.00 Parlay Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:31 $700.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:47 $700.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 21:59:45 $87.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 21:59:56 $11.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 01:22:08 $1200.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 01:22:09 $147.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 01:22:09 $21.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 11:15:39 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 15:11:42 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 15:20:41 $220.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 15:20:57 $220.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 18:40:55 $420.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 19:59:56 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/14/2008 07:58:40 $100.00 Refunded Straight Wager
09/15/2008 23:56:44 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/21/2008 11:56:23 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/21/2008 15:52:06 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/21/2008 19:55:58 $770.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/21/2008 23:36:45 $1470.00 Won Straight Wager
09/25/2008 17:13:05 $1100.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/26/2008 00:29:08 $2100.00 Won Straight Wager
09/26/2008 01:31:27 $1000.00 Straight Future Placed
09/26/2008 01:37:02 $600.00 Straight Future Placed
10/01/2008 15:15:07 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 18:02:00 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 18:04:07 $1100.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 21:09:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/02/2008 21:09:53 $2100.00 Won Straight Wager
10/05/2008 02:53:00 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/05/2008 17:12:12 $1000.00 Won Straight Wager
10/06/2008 20:22:27 $315.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/07/2008 00:07:45 $615.00 Won Straight Wager
10/08/2008 02:40:59 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/10/2008 18:52:32 $770.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/10/2008 22:32:20 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/11/2008 01:54:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/11/2008 01:54:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/11/2008 11:47:37 $440.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/11/2008 15:38:06 $840.00 Won Straight Wager
10/12/2008 19:59:41 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/12/2008 19:59:53 $390.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/12/2008 22:53:49 $795.00 Won Straight Wager
10/13/2008 16:32:49 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/14/2008 22:32:08 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed

 

[SportSavant]

what were the next best odds ?

+300

 

[Doug]

No, Ya... you are real, and a winner and a sizeable player, but ,WSEX is rarely going to to have the best line, or options, of course IMO.

CFL cup is rather a minor thing, IMO. It means way more to a Canadian.

I respect your opinion on CFL, or NHL highly.

I still maintain that WSEX is rarely going to have the best line.

I have great respect for you... and wifey "R"

I never met a Canadian , I didn't like, in fact.

 

[bigbet1234]

WSEX is a shit book.


Yea, yea, yea...they pay, in what, a month, then checks bounce.

Place is a pita, they have nothing unique.

I always hated their stupid drop down betting menu

 

[bigbet1234]

Baller

doug,

if u think I am simply shilling, do you think I would actually put money on a line at WSEX if I could find a better line somewhere else, especially as a Canadian with pinnacle being wide open? If that is the case how do you explain these wagers I have made at WSEX lately, obviously I found the best number there these times....

09/08/2008 07:28:29 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:27 $450.00 Parlay Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:31 $700.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 10:49:47 $700.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 21:59:45 $87.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/12/2008 21:59:56 $11.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 01:22:08 $1200.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 01:22:09 $147.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 01:22:09 $21.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 11:15:39 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 15:11:42 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 15:20:41 $220.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 15:20:57 $220.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/13/2008 18:40:55 $420.00 Won Straight Wager
09/13/2008 19:59:56 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/14/2008 07:58:40 $100.00 Refunded Straight Wager
09/15/2008 23:56:44 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/21/2008 11:56:23 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/21/2008 15:52:06 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
09/21/2008 19:55:58 $770.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/21/2008 23:36:45 $1470.00 Won Straight Wager
09/25/2008 17:13:05 $1100.00 Straight Wager Placed
09/26/2008 00:29:08 $2100.00 Won Straight Wager
09/26/2008 01:31:27 $1000.00 Straight Future Placed
09/26/2008 01:37:02 $600.00 Straight Future Placed
10/01/2008 15:15:07 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 18:02:00 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 18:04:07 $1100.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/02/2008 21:09:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/02/2008 21:09:53 $2100.00 Won Straight Wager
10/05/2008 02:53:00 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/05/2008 17:12:12 $1000.00 Won Straight Wager
10/06/2008 20:22:27 $315.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/07/2008 00:07:45 $615.00 Won Straight Wager
10/08/2008 02:40:59 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/10/2008 18:52:32 $770.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/10/2008 22:32:20 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/11/2008 01:54:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/11/2008 01:54:52 $1050.00 Won Straight Wager
10/11/2008 11:47:37 $440.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/11/2008 15:38:06 $840.00 Won Straight Wager
10/12/2008 19:59:41 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/12/2008 19:59:53 $390.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/12/2008 22:53:49 $795.00 Won Straight Wager
10/13/2008 16:32:49 $550.00 Straight Wager Placed
10/14/2008 22:32:08 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed

 

[Doug]

WSEX is a shit book.


Yea, yea, yea...they pay, in what, a month, then checks bounce.

Place is a pita, they have nothing unique.

I always hated their stupid drop down betting menu

I disagree with you, Bigbet1234:

WSEX is not a shit book, they are merely just a useless book. hno:

 

[Doug]

Doug,

with due respect....

I have been saying the same thing about BETCRIS, that despite their fees they have value, and they are no longer a sponsor...

Around the forums.... most players agree with me that WSEX has become crap.

CRIS has always been crap, BTW.

I'd call WSEX a "D" book, now.