I felt Winston was the better qb before last nights game & bow I'm more convinced Winston is the better qb......
But will either qb be great Luke Brady/Rodgers/Manning......only time will tell.
But will either qb be great Luke Brady/Rodgers/Manning......only time will tell.
I think the OSU QB is >then all of them NFL wise.
Reminds me of culpepper who was a great NFL qb till injuries ruined him
He has a strong will and the knack to not let bad plays become bad games.
What he has done the last 3 games has never been equaled In the history of college football.
I don't know how Urban does it. Cam Newton was his 3rd string QB at UF
Reminds me of culpepper who was a great NFL qb till injuries ruined him
He has a strong will and the knack to not let bad plays become bad games.
What he has done the last 3 games has never been equaled In the history of college football.
I don't know how Urban does it. Cam Newton was his 3rd string QB at UF
Elliot played great.
He made a lot of money last night.
But stats are not everything at the QB position . This guy has all the tools and he's a leader. He has that "it" that I've never seen from JW or MM.
Its that intangible that you can't describe and he has it.
I think the Pittsburgh Stealers proved this season that the notion that running backs are not worth first round picks is a false notion.
Running backs still very valuable in today's NFL
He made a lot of money last night.
But stats are not everything at the QB position . This guy has all the tools and he's a leader. He has that "it" that I've never seen from JW or MM.
Its that intangible that you can't describe and he has it.
I think the Pittsburgh Stealers proved this season that the notion that running backs are not worth first round picks is a false notion.
Running backs still very valuable in today's NFL
'The last time a QB without much fanfare made a statement as significant as Jones was Ron Vanderkelen. Prior to his senior year, VanderKelen had 90 seconds of playing experience for the Badgers, and all 90 came as a defensive back in a rout of Marquette in 1959. He was then a sophomore. VanderKelen injured his knee the following spring, had surgery and sat out the 1960 season. He had eligibility issues in 1961 and dropped out of school and worked in construction.
Going into the 1962 season, VanderKelen was one of seven quarterbacks auditioning for the job. The others were John Fabry, Harold Brandt, Jim Hennig, Arnie Quaerna, Bob Allison, Greg Howey and Lew Fawbush. VanderKelen played himself on to everybody's radar by completing his first eight passes against Notre Dame at Camp Randall Stadium. The Badgers had gone winless in seven previous meetings with the Irish, dating to 1928, but VanderKelen helped end the streak in a 17-8 victory.
The 1963 Rose Bowl was special from the start because it pitted the No. 1-ranked Trojans, who had won 10 straight games (outscoring their opponents 219-55); against the No. 2-ranked Badgers, whose only loss was to Ohio State and had already knocked off a No. 1 ranked team (Northwestern).
With 12 minutes left in the game USC lead 42-14 with All-American QB Pete Beatherd at the helm. The final 12 minutes of the game belonged to UW quarterback Ron VanderKelen. In the fourth quarter alone, VanderKelen completed 17-of-21 passes. What an unlikely hero. It was almost good enough to upend USC. Almost - though few remember the almost in a losing context. Instead they remember VanderKelen and Richter and the storybook ending they almost wrote.
Nevertheless, pro scouts ignored him. In those days, the NFL held its college player draft in December. That season, Vander Kelen went 0 for 280 picks. In August 1963, he was named the starter in the Chicago College All-Star Game (a game which pitted college all-stars selected from the graduating class from the previous season against the NFL champion) over a group of quarterbacks which included 1962 Heisman Trophy winner Terry Baker. The college all-stars defeated the Green Bay Packers 20-17, with a 74-yard touchdown completion to his college teammate, Pat Richter, providing the winning touchdown. Vander Kelen was named the game MVP.[SUP][3][/SUP] The 1963 game would prove to be the last time the college all-stars defeated the NFL champion in this series.'
Kiper still has him high on his list.... he pointed out something I agree with.. to many skill guys out for Ducks last night... notice that the deep threats left were not getting any separation for the most part... a lot is going to depend on the organization... some organizations are killers for qbs
I don't think there is a chance in Hell that Mariota falls to the Eagles at 20. There are too many teams drafting early that are desperate for a QB. As an Eagles fan I would be thrilled if he were to drop that far but I know it is an impossibility. I hope the Eagles don't give away the store to move up to get him. The 20th pick in the NFL draft is hit and miss. Some team will take a chance on MM because the rookie contract doesn't kill your team if the player is a bust. I think Mariota would fit like a glove working with his former coach Chip Kelly. He might not have success in another system.I will be shocked if both QB's aren't taken in the first 5 or 6 slots.
