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So comrade is an anti-semite?
 

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He was re elected multiple times and even his constitutional reforms were democratically approved by referendum

What you are saying is patently untrue.

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Chavez's "Democratic Authoritarianism"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chavezs-democratic-authoritarianism/


Ecuador: We can not tolerate undemocratic actions in Venezuela

http://lainfo.es/en/2014/02/19/ecuador-we-can-not-tolerate-undemocratic-actions-in-venezuela/

Dismantling Democracy in Venezuela: The Chávez Authoritarian Experiment


http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Democracy-Venezuela-Authoritarian-Experiment/dp/0521145570

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But assume they did. So what? The producers fled, which is why Venezuela is an economic basket case.

That's why the Soviets barred anyone from leaving their Utopia (as if force would somehow make their backward system work). That's why East Germans couldn't visit West Germans and there was a wall with armed guards separating the two. Think about it...people weren't allowed to leave. And that's why communism ultimately ended up killing hundreds of millions.

Your system is immoral.

Your system is contrary to human nature - simple as that.

All you have to do is read the musings of Marx (a smelly old loser philosopher with perennial money problems) and it's easy to see why socialism fails...over and over and over.

When will they ever learn. :neenee:
 
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Cuba is doing good compared to Latin American standards not to mention they could be doing even better if they weren't under an embargo by the us and some other countries.
I can also randomly throw out countries to disprove capitalism. hey look at Mexico! That must prove capitalism is a disaster

"Doing good"? How about we try "doing well"? Hard to take your "intellectual" opinions on Cuba's success seriously when you appear to be lacking in basic grammar.
 

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they actually did not endorse him. But even if they did I already told you it's the lesser of two evils. Democrats are on the left side so we obviously prefer them over the right republicans. I'm sure you're aware of the ideological spectrum. You saying Obama is equal to a socialist is the same as me saying Romney is the equivalent of a nazi

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Communist Party Endorses Obama For 2012


"It may be early in the campaign season, but the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election"

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/08/04/communist-party-endorses-obama-2012




 

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What you are saying is patently untrue.

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Chavez's "Democratic Authoritarianism"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chavezs-democratic-authoritarianism/


Ecuador: We can not tolerate undemocratic actions in Venezuela

http://lainfo.es/en/2014/02/19/ecuador-we-can-not-tolerate-undemocratic-actions-in-venezuela/

Dismantling Democracy in Venezuela: The Chávez Authoritarian Experiment


http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Democracy-Venezuela-Authoritarian-Experiment/dp/0521145570

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But assume they did. So what? The producers fled, which is why Venezuela is an economic basket case.

That's why the Soviets barred anyone from leaving their Utopia (as if force would somehow make their backward system work). That's why East Germans couldn't visit West Germans and there was a wall with armed guards separating the two. Think about it...people weren't allowed to leave. And that's why communism ultimately ended up killing hundreds of millions.

Your system is immoral.

Your system is contrary to human nature - simple as that.

All you have to do is read the musings of Marx (a smelly old loser philosopher with perennial money problems) and it's easy to see why socialism fails...over and over and over.

When will they ever learn. :neenee:

Well there is a lot wrong with this post. Not sure where to start.

Soviet Union was not a socialist country after lenins death

youre wrong about human nature. There were several ancient societies and groups that were socialist in nature.

who cares about Marxs money troubles

and to the Venezuela issue. Everything I said I was correct

you must not have taken the time to even read the articles you posted. The dead give away was the second one from Ecuador. Correa and Ecuador being an ally of Venezuela made me suspicious of that news article. That article is a pro Chavez statement by the Ecuadorean government about the ring wing in Venezuela trying to take power undemocratically after Chavez death
 

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Barack Obama was born of Marxists; mentored by a communist writer and activist during his formative years; spent his college days hanging around Marxist professors and activists; worked as a radical community organizer, using the radical tactics of the communist, Alinsky; attended a radical church; was introduced to Chicago politics by a communist in the home of two communists; and now lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists. He had radicals on his campaign, and has them in his administration. The simple fact is, since the age of 12, the people closest to Obama have been active, radical Marxists, and dues-paying members of the Communist Party USA. (from theobamafile.com)

a little more:

Obama and the people around him are are Obamunists -- Obama is the prototypical Obamunist -- a blend of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Che, Capone, Billy Sunday, Boss Tweed, Muhammad, and Tupac -- they are hybrids -- they use all the tools -- whatever will get them power and keep them in power.

An Obamunist believes the orders must come from them, the enlightened ones, through the bureaucracy, to the People. They wrap their stuff up in fancy slogans, but their goal is power -- and they believe they are entitled to it.
 

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What you are saying is patently untrue.

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Chavez's "Democratic Authoritarianism"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chavezs-democratic-authoritarianism/


Ecuador: We can not tolerate undemocratic actions in Venezuela

http://lainfo.es/en/2014/02/19/ecuador-we-can-not-tolerate-undemocratic-actions-in-venezuela/

Dismantling Democracy in Venezuela: The Chávez Authoritarian Experiment


http://www.amazon.com/Dismantling-Democracy-Venezuela-Authoritarian-Experiment/dp/0521145570

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But assume they did. So what? The producers fled, which is why Venezuela is an economic basket case.

That's why the Soviets barred anyone from leaving their Utopia (as if force would somehow make their backward system work). That's why East Germans couldn't visit West Germans and there was a wall with armed guards separating the two. Think about it...people weren't allowed to leave. And that's why communism ultimately ended up killing hundreds of millions.

Your system is immoral.

Your system is contrary to human nature - simple as that.

All you have to do is read the musings of Marx (a smelly old loser philosopher with perennial money problems) and it's easy to see why socialism fails...over and over and over.

When will they ever learn. :neenee:

The third thing is a book by an anti Chavez author. Big deal.
The first link is just an article talking about his narrow electoral victory for even further constitutional changes. all of those were absolutely nothing to discredit what I said. Which is that he was democratically elected several times
 

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Communist Party Endorses Obama For 2012


"It may be early in the campaign season, but the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election"

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/08/04/communist-party-endorses-obama-2012








The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.


The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them.


While we do not endorse any particular candidates, we do endorse and join in the anti-Bush/anti-right wing sentiments that are driving so many people to activism.


The fact that the Democratic frontrunners are an African American and a woman speaks volumes on how far the country has come. Hillary Clintons campaign has attracted large numbers of supporters, especially women. Other Democratic contenders presented some excellent proposals to reverse the devastation caused by the Bush administrations policies.


Barack Obamas campaign has so far generated the most excitement, attracted the most votes, most volunteers and the most money. We think the basic reason for this is that his campaign has the clearest message of unity and progressive change, while having a real possibility for victory in November.


As we see it, however, this battle is bigger than the Democrats and Republicans, even though those parties are the main electoral vehicle for most voters today. Our approach is to focus on issues and movements that are influencing candidates and parties.


We will work with others to defeat the Republican nominee and to end right-wing control of the new Congress.


The activism growing out of this election will help guarantee a progressive mandate no matter who is elected. It is critical to our countrys renewal and future.


We think this election is a great opportunity to bring an early withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. It can mean job creation and relief for those who are losing their homes or unable to pay their bills.


This election can set the stage to advance the interests of working people; of those excluded because of race, gender, sexual orientation and immigration status.


This election can begin to turn the tide: it can help bring universal health care, save the environment and start the restoration of our democratic rights. This election can strengthen democracy for all.


In the long run, we see the need for an independent peoples party -- an electoral party that will unite labor and all democratic forces. We also are working for a political system and government whose priority is to watch the backs of working families, not fill the pockets of the corporate fat cats. Our slogan, people before profits and our goal of Bill of Rights socialism say it all.
 

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COMMUNIST PARTY DENIES ENDORSING OBAMA FOR 2012


CHICAGO - Despite reports buzzing the Internet that the Communist Party USA has already endorsed Barack Obama for 2012 as they did in 2008, the story's just not true. Sort of.


Illinois Review saw numerous headlines and was emailed about the Communists joining the National Education Association in endorsing Obama early for 2012, but we couldn't find anything from the Communist Party, so we asked them directly if they had endorsed Obama. Libero Della Piana, spokesperson for the group, responded:


No, we have not endorsed Barack Obama nor are we in the business of endorsing candidates. There are many articles and positions of the Party on our website, including our outlook on the 2012 elections. Here is the main report to our recent National Committee meeting: http://cpusa.org/fighting-for-our-future/
 

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That's another thing communists do - LIE:

101103communistbackobama.jpg


Communists justify anything (lie, cheat, steal, scrub, jail... even murder those who refuse to "play along") to advance their radical immoral agenda.
 

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We won! The American people speak and act with strength and determination

November 7 2012

http://www.peoplesworld.org/we-won-the-american-people-speak-and-act-with-strength-and-determination/

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Actually, no commies...America and liberty LOST big time!

 

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That's another thing communists do - LIE:

101103communistbackobama.jpg


Communists justify anything (lie, cheat, steal, scrub, jail... even murder those who refuse to "play along") to advance their radical immoral agenda.
Yes the communist party did support him winning in 2008 and 2012
but they did not endorse him.
But continue to believe it because fox told you
 

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Yes the communist party did support him winning in 2008 and 2012
but they did not endorse him.
But continue to believe it because fox told you


Where else are you going to hear stuff like that. Thank God for Fox.
 

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Well you're making the exact same assumptions about people. That without money they have no incentive to do anything


No, I'm really not. The capitalist model is the only one which gives everyone a fair chance at pursuing what they really want to do in life and make a success of themselves. That can't happen in socialist states, because if there is a doctor shortage for example, then we need to start forcing more citizens to become doctors whether they want to or not (Welcome to central planning).

I don't know where you get these misconceptions that bankers, CEOs, etc do nothing besides sit around in their office all day and earn big paychecks by playing Candy Crush. Nor do I remember reading many rags to riches stories involving Cubans or Soviet citizens in their former countries. Do you know anyone who has actually lived under those conditions at some point in their lives? I do, and 100% of them risked their lives to escape it for a reason. You really ought to find some and talk to them. Not many South Floridians are gathering up on rafts and trying to paddle their way into Cuba.

You keep bringing up these ancient civilizations. Who were they, and where did they exist? I think what you're really dreaming about is the socialist utopia...everyone continues to show up for work without getting a paycheck in return, and they do it for their fellow man. That simply isn't the way of the world. Hell, even in the wild...when a lion makes a kill, he doesn't go around and share it with every other carnivore species in the jungle. It's survival of the fittest.

And you STILL have not answered my question, because you it shatters your vision. But I'll ask again: we suddenly live in a socialist state, and I've decided I just don't feel like working. My reasons for doing so are irrelevant. So why should I work if you're going to pay me for not working? That's when your model begins to unravel.
 

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Yes the communist party did support him winning in 2008 and 2012
but they did not endorse him.
But continue to believe it because fox told you

They wouldn't have endorsed, oops, I mean 'supported' him if he didn't represent their values and ideology. That's the point.

There isn't a single sector of the economy and society he doesn't want to rule with an iron fist.

Obama surrounds himself with radicals who are out to destroy liberty and capitalism and usher in communism...people who think like he does:

"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House"

(Actually, he need a constitutional amendment but I digress.)

Oh, they tried...and we
got Obamacare...but only because the current political system wouldn't allow a full government takeover of healthcare - yet.

Thank God for the second amendment or America would be Venezuela now.
 

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This is what the world got for listening to some loser philosopher who couldn't run a lemonade stand:


COM.TAB1.GIF


"POWER TO THE PEOPLE!"

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Yes the communist party did support him winning in 2008 and 2012
but they did not endorse him.
But continue to believe it because fox told you
sup·port transitive verb

: to agree with or approve of (someone or something)

: to show that you approve of (someone or something) by doing something

: to give help or assistance to (someone or something)

en·dorse verb

1. to approve, support, or sustain

I don’t see a hole hell of a lot of difference.
 

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