Cheap shot? Scott is a Jew? He is isnt he? Do Jew like the Iranians? Didnt the Iranian PM say he wanted to wipe them off the face of the earth? Is Scott a Jew? Therefore...
hno:
the cheapshot was your insinuation along with your stupidity
that nobody should care about this issue unless they are jewish
the only debate is whether iran is truly suicidal
there is no debate on whether it would affect the US
thanks for playing
Citing some government report that proved Iran was no where near having nuclear bomb capabilities, and stupid enough to believe they stopped trying?
Time has a funny way of doing it's thing
Looks like Bush knew what he was talking about, and the laughing crowd didn't. Think the enablers will print any corrections?
Our enemies beat you like a drum.
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back to the intent of this thread
Bush & Cheney & Willie99 were right
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Time has a funny way of doing it's thing
Looks like Bush knew what he was talking about, and the laughing crowd didn't. Think the enablers will print any corrections?
Our enemies beat you like a drum.
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back to the intent of this thread
Bush & Cheney & Willie99 were right
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Willie, its gonna take a nuke in Israel or somewhere even closer to home for these jerk offs .....I take that back..not even then will they realize the war we are fighting.
It does not have borders. There is no beach to storm. They are so small minded and full of anti Bush hate that they are even willing to argue the fact of what Irans ultimate goal is.
My father and grandfather used to call them bleeding heart liberals.
Now I know what they meant.
It does not have borders. There is no beach to storm. They are so small minded and full of anti Bush hate that they are even willing to argue the fact of what Irans ultimate goal is.
My father and grandfather used to call them bleeding heart liberals.
Now I know what they meant.
Romo thanks and Welcome Back.
Somewhere along the line I've lost the will and time to continuously debate with those who rant foolishness in here. There are those that pound their fist in here that actually believe their posts are somehow going to change the world.
I am Pro-Israel. I will be Pro-Israel forever. How much of that is morality and how much of that is religious you are individually free to decide. I'll say this though -- I don't believe there's a God, a heaven, or a hell. I don't judge anyone else who does or doesn't, and I pray I'll be wrong and God will forgive me because I've lived a life where I've done good deeds and helped those in need.
I could literally sit here all day and post of the GREAT that Israel and Jews do in the world. It's in my inbox everyday. But what for? What would it change? In the end if someone is morally bereft about Israel's place and goals in the world compared to those of Iran's leadership, or the peaceful aspirations of Israelis compared to those of the Palestinian leaders, there's no helping them.
Somewhere along the line I've lost the will and time to continuously debate with those who rant foolishness in here. There are those that pound their fist in here that actually believe their posts are somehow going to change the world.
I am Pro-Israel. I will be Pro-Israel forever. How much of that is morality and how much of that is religious you are individually free to decide. I'll say this though -- I don't believe there's a God, a heaven, or a hell. I don't judge anyone else who does or doesn't, and I pray I'll be wrong and God will forgive me because I've lived a life where I've done good deeds and helped those in need.
I could literally sit here all day and post of the GREAT that Israel and Jews do in the world. It's in my inbox everyday. But what for? What would it change? In the end if someone is morally bereft about Israel's place and goals in the world compared to those of Iran's leadership, or the peaceful aspirations of Israelis compared to those of the Palestinian leaders, there's no helping them.
Being pro Israel or pro American or pro iranian or any other absolute backing of any nation has and will always be the type of logic (sic) and or belief system that creates destruction, inhumanity and atrocitys because the believer is too lazy or misled to think in such a way. There was plenty of Germans who were pro Germany back in in the 30's who ended up watching and backing the slaughter of millions. Sure that is drastic but that is an outcome with feverish unchecked nationalism that goes from the German SS solider to the redneck Neocon with a gun rack and a Bush '04 bumper sticker to the Iranian moron in Kabul strapped chest deep in c4. I myself dont judge an entire country like Iran based on the words of some whacked out lunatic who is backed by an outdated and out of touch religious clusterfuck which is Islam. I instead focus on people rather then the mouthpiece of a given nation or the acts of some random citizens. Its like the last 8 years of Bush - many people were said to be anti American because of him. Does that make that a rational thought? To be anti-American when Bushs approval rating was sub 40% for a good portion of said time
read the charter of Hamas
then read the charter of Hezbollah
then follow the money that financed Arafat and the PLO
then consider what nation is a producer, and what people produce nothing, but destroy a lot
then look at how many Muslims live and prosper peacefully in Isreal
and the try to make some asinine equivalency argument, that dog don't hunt. It's actually "RETARDED".
then read the charter of Hezbollah
then follow the money that financed Arafat and the PLO
then consider what nation is a producer, and what people produce nothing, but destroy a lot
then look at how many Muslims live and prosper peacefully in Isreal
and the try to make some asinine equivalency argument, that dog don't hunt. It's actually "RETARDED".
That might be so and i dont share ANY views consistent with the PLO or any other terrorist organization nor do i really give a shit about Iran, and your opinion on the matter is irrelevant because your a label whore. Just like below your name, you call yourself a conservative but just a few years ago you were actually trying to defend runaway deficits, big government and ramped up entitlement spending with "Bush boom" threads when we were staring face to face with a recession and a fiat financed fed induced bubble burst. Do you really want me to go and find them to give you a mirror? Now compare that to your Obama is spending your grand-kids money rants and it would actually make great comedy. And thats kinda my point. Absolute faith and blind submission makes you actually believe illogical nonsense as such.
Fletch, I want to start by saying I wasn't addressing you in my previous post, both rather the growing amount of moral equivalency arguments with respect to the middle east, which his complete poppycock to me.
As for my economic positions, I'm not sure you've ever gotten anything right about me, and you shouldn't be accusing anybody else of "labeling".
While it's true I argued that a larger economy can finance larger debt, just like a wealthier family can finance a larger mortgage, that doesn't mean a wealthy family can finance any mortgage of any size. If you don't see a difference between the deficits then and now, then you should stick to PLO and Israel are equivalent arguments, I can't help you.
Furthermore, Bush cut taxes helped to spur private sector growth, and we actually had a 3 or 4 year window of deceasing deficits. At least Bush got it half right, and I have been very critical of the the other half, the level of spending under Bush, and you should know this by now.
Obama's budgets project growing astronomical deficits for as far into the future as they go, something that is simply not sustainable. His policies stunt private sector growth, only stimulating the growth of our welfare state. Now I know you're not an Obama supporter, but please don't try to say both he and Bush are the same, that's ".............."
it should be obvious for anyone with a brain wave, the two men are drastically different with respect to economic policy.
As for my economic positions, I'm not sure you've ever gotten anything right about me, and you shouldn't be accusing anybody else of "labeling".
While it's true I argued that a larger economy can finance larger debt, just like a wealthier family can finance a larger mortgage, that doesn't mean a wealthy family can finance any mortgage of any size. If you don't see a difference between the deficits then and now, then you should stick to PLO and Israel are equivalent arguments, I can't help you.
Furthermore, Bush cut taxes helped to spur private sector growth, and we actually had a 3 or 4 year window of deceasing deficits. At least Bush got it half right, and I have been very critical of the the other half, the level of spending under Bush, and you should know this by now.
Obama's budgets project growing astronomical deficits for as far into the future as they go, something that is simply not sustainable. His policies stunt private sector growth, only stimulating the growth of our welfare state. Now I know you're not an Obama supporter, but please don't try to say both he and Bush are the same, that's ".............."
it should be obvious for anyone with a brain wave, the two men are drastically different with respect to economic policy.
Fletcher your post #135 has nothing to do with mine. Furthermore, it turns history and logic completely on its ear and makes you appear to be a blabbering fool. Especially your nazi crap which has no relationship to present-day Israeli reality or intent. Never has someone used so many words to say so little, yet reveal so much about himself.
And try hitting the 'Enter' key every once in a while. At least then everything you haven't a clue about will be legible.
And try hitting the 'Enter' key every once in a while. At least then everything you haven't a clue about will be legible.
- President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.
- President Bush began a string of expensive finan*cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
- President Bush created a <nobr>Medicare</nobr> drug entitle*ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern*ment health care fund.
- President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi*dent Obama would double it.
- President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in*creased this spending by 20 percent.
- President Bush tilted the <nobr>income tax</nobr> burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.
- President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public <nobr>debt</nobr> through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.
So, in essence what you have is a more aggressive spending whore in Obama then his predecessor Bush. But make no mistake about it, Bush like Jimmy Carter then Regan then Bush 1 before him... they just uped the ante. Only Clinton broke this trend and whether it was Congress or not, the ends were clearly stated. To say they are clearly different i naive if not moronic. They are cut from the same cloth. Ive always said Bush tax cuts were not enough, i wanted even more tax cuts because savings is what produces wealth not some fiat printing press. And with the inflation and devaluation the goes with it robbing hard working Americans of their wealth, the less money being wasted in Washington the better.
With that said, Bush doubled the national debt in his 8 years. And that was precisely because he spent more then he took in. And while its true a wealthy family can afford more debt, if you never pay on the principal and only pay the interest while adding more debt, thus making the interest payment expand even more, eventually is catches up to you, regardless how wealthy you are. In fact over the next decade, we are projected to be in the red an additional 9+ trillion. Out of the 9+ trillion more then half will be interest alone. Now that the national debt is over $12 trillion, the White House estimates that the government’s interest payment on the debt will exceed $700 billion a year in 2019, up from $202 billion this year, even if annual budget deficits shrink drastically. These numbers are very low because the interest rates are so low, but we cant keep rates at zero can we? Its obvious the fed rate cuts dont work anymore so the only choice is to deliberately raise the rate of inflation (print more money). That is where we are now.
