Great for the US eh? The world would do what they love to do, which is slam Israel in the public while secretly breathing sighs of thanks for removing the cancer. The Saudis would fucking love it!
This is the track we are on right now. The good people of Iran are powerless against the brutally oppressive dictatorship. Outside attempts to power the people to overthrow the regime have failed. They can't be allowed to go fully nuclear as they'd likely obliterate Tel Aviv.
Nobody wants a war, but I'd rather the US or Israel strike first than strike second.
This is the track we are on right now. The good people of Iran are powerless against the brutally oppressive dictatorship. Outside attempts to power the people to overthrow the regime have failed. They can't be allowed to go fully nuclear as they'd likely obliterate Tel Aviv.
Nobody wants a war, but I'd rather the US or Israel strike first than strike second.
I have a neighbor across town who has been saying for years that he wants to see me dead, but so far I haven't been too worried because he doesn't own a gun.
But I've heard some reports that he might be getting a gun soon.
If I learn he's obtained a gun, should I just head on over now and shoot him and all of his family members to death with my own gun first?
But I've heard some reports that he might be getting a gun soon.
If I learn he's obtained a gun, should I just head on over now and shoot him and all of his family members to death with my own gun first?
hno:
Israel is about to put a stompin on Iran in teh next year...u.s. will either be forced in to help, or unable to from that systematic currency collapse in the U.S. leaving behind civil unrest and martial law...maybe civil war.
Syria, russia iran and others retaliate and are utterly defeated by the Israilis.
Syria, russia iran and others retaliate and are utterly defeated by the Israilis.
Only part of tat was an apocalyptic vision. Just really think Netenyahooo is going to bomb because he said he would. He really really wants u.s. help though. I think he goes it alone in the 3-6 months.
The acocalyptic vision was from the battle of Gog and magog. Russia, syria, iran, egypt etc. They will bomb eventually and be defeated in 1 day.
Iran has made it's intentions very clear for enemy and ally alike.
Iran has said a nuclear war with Israel is a valid option because Israel as a nation can only take a couple of hits before it is completely destroyed.
Any retaliation by Israel to it's enemies can be absorbed, not without some pain, but never the less, with the destruction of Israel and victory to it's enemies.
Speaking in terms of mutually assured destruction does not apply here.
Barman Bellowed......
"I have a neighbor across town who has been saying for years that he wants to see me dead, but so far I haven't been too worried because he doesn't own a gun.
But I've heard some reports that he might be getting a gun soon.
If I learn he's obtained a gun, should I just head on over now and shoot him and all of his family members to death with my own gun first?"
You're bringing a hypothetical and comparing it to a real world situation. You could instead state your belief that Israel is under no threat, and we can disagree about that.
I never said I was sure of what Israel or the US should do. I just hope whatever action is chosen ends up being wise. There is no way for you and I to have all the information needed for this critical decision.
Now before I answer your hypothetical Steve let me ask you. What WOULD you do in your situation? And what do you think US policy and Israel's stance toward Iran should be? And finally, why are you yourself so convinced Israel is not under an existential threat?
"Israel is no more going to launch an attack on Iran than Iran is going to launch an attack on Israel."
I'll bet you'd have said the same thing about al Queda on 9/10/01 regarding hijacked planes ramming tall buildings.
"I have a neighbor across town who has been saying for years that he wants to see me dead, but so far I haven't been too worried because he doesn't own a gun.
But I've heard some reports that he might be getting a gun soon.
If I learn he's obtained a gun, should I just head on over now and shoot him and all of his family members to death with my own gun first?"
You're bringing a hypothetical and comparing it to a real world situation. You could instead state your belief that Israel is under no threat, and we can disagree about that.
I never said I was sure of what Israel or the US should do. I just hope whatever action is chosen ends up being wise. There is no way for you and I to have all the information needed for this critical decision.
Now before I answer your hypothetical Steve let me ask you. What WOULD you do in your situation? And what do you think US policy and Israel's stance toward Iran should be? And finally, why are you yourself so convinced Israel is not under an existential threat?
"Israel is no more going to launch an attack on Iran than Iran is going to launch an attack on Israel."
I'll bet you'd have said the same thing about al Queda on 9/10/01 regarding hijacked planes ramming tall buildings.
....And if Iran defends themself AT ALL against the terrorists Israel are if they bomb them for literally no legitimate reason they will be called "terrorists" by the controlled mainstream media.
Either way - Israel won't attack Iran anytime soon. You can bank on that.
Those who believe Israel are terrorists are the same people who believe the US gov't murdered its own citizens on 9/11, someone is always pulling the president's strings [but they never say who], and the media is "controlled [by those same "stringpullers" I guess.] It's no coincidence with feeble-minded robots.
Say Hey, every post you make has a Boogeyman. I got news for you. He's not coming out from under your bed. He's digging through your mattress with his claws and sometime soon he'll pull you right through it.
Stick to the Brandon Lang thread. "Stringpulling" that clown better suits you.
Scott L we know you think Israel can do no wrong even if they carpet bomb whole towns and use white phosphorous on civilians. Now they you're saying they should unprovkedly attack Iran? 
Yeah. They are the "good guys".
There's no use arguing with your non-sense, as i'm sure you were ones beating the drums believing the lies about WMDs. It's amazing how some citizens will belief literally anything they are told.
Either way - your wet dream wont happen anytime soon.
Yeah. They are the "good guys".
There's no use arguing with your non-sense, as i'm sure you were ones beating the drums believing the lies about WMDs. It's amazing how some citizens will belief literally anything they are told.
Either way - your wet dream wont happen anytime soon.
1) I would first seek a restraining order to hopefully give me a buffer from Dude. Second, if I REALLY thought he was a potential threat, I might very well buy my first handgun and maybe a shotgun for the house, learn how to use them properly and start packin' in case of need for self defense.
2) I believe that establishing a firm defense is step number one. And step number 1a is to make it unmistakably clear that if Iran actually levies a military attack or strike on Israel they will pay an incredibly terrible price.
(If I'm not mistaken, both of those components are in fact already in play for overall Israel/USA/Iran foreign policy)
3) I apologize if anything I've written implies that I think "Israel is not under significant threat", because they most certainly are. The distinction I draw is my disbelief that Iran will ignore the two components I listed above and make a first strike knowing full well the ultimate price they would be instantly forced to pay. I realize not everyone shares my disbelief. So be it.
4) Suggesting that either you or me or most anyone else in the world outside of the small cadre of folks responsible for 9/11 would have "said on 9/10 that no one would fly planes into WTC" is pure conjecture.
But I'm pretty damn sure that had you or I or anyone outside that cadre been surveyed on 9/10 about the possibility of planes being hijacked and flown into WTC, there would be a near unanimous response ranging from Very Doubtful to Won't Happen.
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That last analogy is not quite on point because there's a very stern difference between the admitted horror of airliners smashing into WTC and killing 2800 people and a foreign country launching nuclear missiles at NYC or any other major population center.
If you asked me, "Do you believe that some Iranians/IslamicJihadists might try and hijack a plane or by some other means take down a major business center in Israel?" I might not be so quick to say, "I doubt it".
But I remain very confident in my belief that the Iranian government will not be launching any formal military strikes - either missile driven or ground troop conventional driven - against the nation of Israel.
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NOW...Aren't we ALL (me most of all) glad that I am not the POTUS?
Scott L we know you think Israel can do no wrong even if they carpet bomb whole towns and use white phosphorous on civilians. Now they you're saying they should unprovkedly attack Iran?
Yeah. They are the "good guys".
There's no use arguing with your non-sense, as i'm sure you were ones beating the drums believing the lies about WMDs. It's amazing how some citizens will belief literally anything they are told.
Either way - your wet dream wont happen anytime soon.
Speaking of provoking, nitwit...... The white phosphorous myth, as all the other claims against Israel in the Gaza war in the MEDIA [which no one controls accept in your pea-brain] were debunked. But the MEDIA you follow has false claims against Israel [READ: JEWS] every time they are forced to defend themselves.
I honestly dont think Iran is suicidal but who knows for certain
as for the sayheykids of the world, in my experience its losers in life without a pot to piss in actually believe the conflict is lopsided and Israel wrongfully abuses the arabs
I dont believe what alternative or mainstream media tells me
but whatever floats his boat
as for the sayheykids of the world, in my experience its losers in life without a pot to piss in actually believe the conflict is lopsided and Israel wrongfully abuses the arabs
I dont believe what alternative or mainstream media tells me
but whatever floats his boat
The white phosphorous myth? Israel admited to using it! ^^
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5575070.ece
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/21/roundup/entry4742987.shtml
It's amazing how willfully ignorant some of the population is. They believe what they WANT to be true, and if you show them the facts - you are a conspiracy theorist. It's a mass mental illness.
Do you enjoy believing your own lies because it comforts you? It's people with your mentality who willfully marched into Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's deathcamps thinking everything was ok.
