Who okayed adding TFZ to this site?

wilheim · Oct 8, 2007

MrHognuts

wil,are you sayin,you had no idea about all this stuff? several times different posters would call him out,and the same thing happened every time...you would come in the thread,and in my estimation,take jmans side...after you would come in the thread,it would all die down,because in my opinion,a lot of these posters were afraid of gettin banned...PLEASE DONT COME IN HERE AND SAY IM BEING ABUSIVE. im asking you a question,and this is my honest opinion and the way i perceived things....'keep the continue'

Please find me some posts where this MLB thread cheating was exposed. I would love to see them. Two posters mentioned back in July of 2005 that posts they saw the day before were not there the day after and that is what brought the whole matter to a halt.

You notice he stopped deleting his losers around mid July.

My favorite is the May 9th post:

How can you post your plays at almost 11PM the night tht the games were played (all were final by then natrually) and then 32 minutes later give yourself over $450 in credit.

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Banned

Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 80,162

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ytd 52-54 +1,667

Hou +140 500/700
LA +147 500/735
TOR U9.5 -125 625/500
NYY -1.5 -127 635/500
TB + 157 500/785
AZ -1.5 +167 500/835

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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1>Tuesday plays YTD 55-57 +2,117

Hou +144 500/740
MINN +133 500/665
Oak +173 500/865
Tampa +131 500/655
LA +192 500/960

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It's all there for anyone who wants to expose this cheat. Do the math, the link to the thread is available, the deletions are available.

Mr Hognuts, why don't you break it down for the forum.

wil.

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

teazeman said:
i'll give you a quick summation, disgruntalled employee throws former friends and bosses under the bus and talks shit about many, many people that post here. calls others manhood into question, including those that served this country in a time of war, blames others for his oweing a book and trying to get a figure taken care of, excuse after excuse after excuse. get my drift????

Fair enough tease, I am intrigued by what he says about ACE_ACE.

teazeman · Oct 8, 2007

the same thing many others have said, if you follow anyone blindly and lose you deserve what you get. and to be honest the shit gets old, i've left jobs before as well as most here have and i've never seen someone act this way. a day or two of being pissy is one thing but this shit has gone beyond anything even i've seen, and i've been around.

sorry for the edit but the fcuking message box is so small i had to post and edit in order to read my own words.

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

I have never seen Wil edit stuff like that.

wilheim · Oct 8, 2007

Antonioli

I am sorry but we won't allow juvenile statements to be posted even here in the Board Room:

"Now go suck Rick's dick, it is what you do best".

Both Rick and I are both married to beautiful women but this is what Journeyman uses for an intelligent discussion. This is pretty much the only argument Journeyman can offer anymore.

I appreciate your concern about the post being soft deleted but it had not a thing to do with Ace Ace. Other than the following:

"Don't you have something better to do Moonlight Graham aka Wilheim? Like go cleanup the mess your meal ticdket ACE ACE has caused you?

The deletions were AFTER the games were posted individually....you are an idiot with a bad memory nothing more.

Did you learn how to spell the word sponsor yet?" :lolBIG:

Maybe Journeyman should practice his own spelling - ticdket, now that is an entire new way of spelling what I guess must be the word ticket.

wil.

wilheim · Oct 8, 2007

Anyone who wants to hear Journeyman's side if why he deleted his posts

Go over to EOG and I am sure he will explain how he deleted 14 posts after the games were over and why.

wil..

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

wilheim said:
I am sorry but we won't allow juvenile statements to be posted even here in the Board Room:

"Now go suck Rick's dick, it is what you do best".

Both Rick and I are both married to beautiful women but this is what Journeyman uses for an intelligent discussion. This is pretty much the only argument Journeyman can offer anymore.

I appreciate your concern about the post being soft deleted but it had not a thing to do with Ace Ace. Other than the following:

"Don't you have something better to do Moonlight Graham aka Wilheim? Like go cleanup the mess your meal ticdket ACE ACE has caused you?

The deletions were AFTER the games were posted individually....you are an idiot with a bad memory nothing more.

Did you learn how to spell the word sponsor yet?" :lolBIG:

Maybe Journeyman should practice his own spelling - ticdket, now that is an entire new way of spelling what I guess must be the word ticket.

wil.

That's better.

Be honest wil, was fishy ghosting in the RX when he was a mod?

And please bring back Dante.

wilheim · Oct 8, 2007

Antonioli

Dante has been back as a moderator here for a couple of weeks.

Be honest wil, was fishy ghosting in the RX when he was a mod?

When Fish was a moderator here, he may have had a ghost as going back to the beginning mods all had ghosts here at The Rx.com.

I admit to creating one called Moonlight Graham as a junior moderator but I never used it for malicious purposes, mainly to bump threads (icluding one Skybook contest thread that I would have disqualified myslf for if the bump somehow won).

Getting back to Fishhead if he had one, I do not know what the user name is or was.

wil..

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting. You will now be taken back to the forum. If you opted to post a poll, you will now be allowed to do so.

Wil, I don't think I would ever be on the receiving end of this.

dmmd98 · Oct 8, 2007

Antonioli said:
That's better.

Be honest wil, was fishy ghosting in the RX when he was a mod?

And please bring back Dante.

Dante is back

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

dmmd98 said:
Dante is back

The best mod ever. If he says J man is NOT a stiff I will believe him.

wilheim · Oct 8, 2007

Antonioli

Thank you for posting! Your post will not be visible until a moderator has approved it for posting. You will now be taken back to the forum. If you opted to post a poll, you will now be allowed to do so.

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Your posts are coming thru fine. I needed five minutes to delete the three straight Warlord cut and paste posts you made.

You are free to discuss the subject of ghosts or Ace Ace etc. but lets try to keep it at least civil and leave the homosexual acts out of it.

Thanks, wil..

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

wilheim said:
Your posts are coming thru fine. I need five minutes to delete the three straight Warlord posts you made.

You are free to discuss but lets try to keep it at least civil and leave the homosexual acts out of it.

Thanks, wil..

What?

teazeman · Oct 8, 2007

Antonioli said:
If he says J man is NOT a stiff I will believe him.

what will you believe if he says he is? look, J-Man admitted he owed a couple of books and the RX admitted they tried to work out payment for a local that j-man had a figure with, why do i get the feeling i'm the only one that respects that? How many threads do we see about books slow paying, no paying every fcuking week, then a "player" slow pays and everyone wants to look the other way, i respect the shit out of Wil stepping in for an "old school" local that j-man was trying to hang out and dry, that's the way it should be! I've been on that same end and the shit get's old, if you can influence someone paying a player or a player paying his book i say do so, it's the right thing to do.

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

teazeman said:
what will you believe if he says he is? look, J-Man admitted he owed a couple of books and the RX admitted they tried to work out payment for a local that j-man had a figure with, why do i get the feeling i'm the only one that respects that? How many threads do we see about books slow paying, no paying every fcuking week, then a "player" slow pays and everyone wants to look the other way, i respect the shit out of Wil stepping in for an "old school" local that j-man was trying to hang out and dry, that's the way it should be! I've been on that same end and the shit get's old, if you can influence someone paying a player or a player paying his book i say do so, it's the right thing to do.

Tease, that was a joke btw. J-man is a fucking stiff, not even Dante could save him. This is fucked up, even FH is fucking shady, yes the 'nice geezer' everybody said after coming back from the Bash. With no disrespect to Wil, I think he's legit and it's not easy to run the forum, but I have my opinion and I still believe that Wil has overprotected ACE in the past and that Rick may have cut their salaries since he took over.

teazeman · Oct 8, 2007

with the offshore enviroment i'm certain adjustments were made in salaries, it's happened in many businesses and if conditions change and people are able to move money i think everyone will get back what they may have lost. as far as who's shady and not or who's protected or not i've got an opinion as well, i just elect to keep it private.

Antonioli · Oct 8, 2007

teazeman said:
with the offshore enviroment i'm certain adjustments were made in salaries, it's happened in many businesses and if conditions change and people are able to move money i think everyone will get back what they may have lost. as far as who's shady and not or who's protected or not i've got an opinion as well, i just elect to keep it private.

Well, you are a gent, and always have been. :103631605

AFLGuru · Oct 8, 2007

Wil... Thanks for finally coming into this thread and addressing my initial point. This wasn't intended to be a Journeyman bash thread (obviously by the title) but it's hard to objectively look at this without suggesting the correlation between J-Man's exit and you offering "general amnesty."

Though I disagree with your statement that the two events have nothing to do with each other, I will no longer beat the point into the ground. I will forever believe what I believe because there are no facts to disprove my hypothesis, but just as certain individual's thoughts mean squat to me, that thought should mean squat to you. We're all just folks on the internet. I'm never going to like the end result here, but I'm going to live with it and go on.

Again, thanks for finally addressing this, as I was wondering if my question was ever going to be answered by any of the mods.

gynecologist · Oct 8, 2007

J-Man used his Mod privilges more than any Mod I've ever seen.

BadCo · Oct 8, 2007

gynecologist said:
J-Man used his Mod privilges more than any Mod I've ever seen.

You know one takes on a mod from therx and lets him bet big limits becuase you think,hell he;s a mod and that gives him carte blanch right there as of course your going to get paid as his job is at stake if he welches.

As I was telling another mod after I figured out he;s just a pot shoter,I said HE HAS NO MONEY.

And this person responded,he say;s he has money saved up and besides he wouldn;t risk his job.

And I said he's living dangerously,even his friends were in denial but I saw it coming a mile away!~