Who okayed adding TFZ to this site?

[wilheim]

Here are the deleted posts from JM's 2005 MLB Thread

I said 13 it was actually 14 posts.

I will explain what this means. The information comes from the Rx.com data base that keeps track of what transactions moderators make day in and day out.

The first part is the transaction number.
The second is the mod who performed that transaction number.
Next is the time of day by military time for example 21:39 is 9:39PM EDT.and the date by day, month and year.
Next is the name of the poster being editd or deleted etc. in this case all were posts made by Journeyman himself.

Then it says thread: (Journeyman 2005 MLB). That is the name of the thread. Sometime the names are abbreviated if the thread title is a long one.

So just breaking down the first entry. at around 20 minutes of 10PM EDT on April 27th Journeyman removed forever a post from his own 2005 MLB thread.

Regarding the term removed the software calls it removed when the post is hard deleted which means that is it nuked so it no longer exists. Most deletions are soft deleted by mods so they can be seen later if necessary by mods for future reference but removed means the post is gone or completely erased from the data base.

He repeated the process 14 times. You tell me why..

16309 Journeyman 21:39, 27th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16344 Journeyman 10:05, 29th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16402 Journeyman 18:30, 1st May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16548 Journeyman 15:55, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16569 Journeyman 23:20, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16568 Journeyman 23:19, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16565 Journeyman 22:49, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16644 Journeyman 22:40, 12th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16695 Journeyman 21:09, 15th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17583 Journeyman 07:51, 16th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17432 Journeyman 00:41, 14th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17420 Journeyman 22:08, 13th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17625 Journeyman 23:58, 19th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17766 Journeyman 18:58, 23rd Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]



wil.

 

[wilheim]

Here is a copy of the Mod log from inside the actual thread.

As you can see he kept going into July but I stopped before I should of in the Admin control panel mod log. This is a log all threads have attached to them to keep track of mod activity with in the thread.

Moderator Log
Date User Name Action Post IP Address
21:39, 27th Apr 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
10:05, 29th Apr 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
18:30, 1st May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
15:55, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
22:49, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
23:19, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Soft Deleted
23:20, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
22:40, 12th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
21:09, 15th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
23:28, 5th Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
12:08, 13th Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
00:41, 14th Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
07:51, 16th Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
16:58, 19th Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
18:58, 23rd Jun 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
07:52, 1st Jul 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
15:42, 6th Jul 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
01:45, 8th Jul 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
11:44, 14th Jul 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
23:57, 16th Jul 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed


As an example there is one soft deleted post that was almost immediatley removed one minute later. Obviously soft deleting would not work for him :

23:19, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Soft Deleted
23:20, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed


wil.

 

[wilheim]

Lets take May 9th for example.

15:55, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
22:49, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
23:19, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Soft Deleted
23:20, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed

At 15:55 which is 3:55PM EDT he made a post it is not there anymore.
At 22:49 which is 10:49PM EDT he made a post it is not there anymire.
At 23;19 which is 11:19 he soft deleted a post and a minute later hard deleted it. This has to be either the 15:55 post or the 22:49 post.
At 23:20 which is when he delete the soft deleted post that is not there any more.

Here is what is posted for May 9th 2005 by Journeyman in his MLB thread:

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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Mon Plays
ytd 52-54 +1,667

Hou +140 500/700
LA +147 500/735
TOR U9.5 -125 625/500
NYY -1.5 -127 635/500
TB + 157 500/785
AZ -1.5 +167 500/835
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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Tuesday plays YTD 55-57 +2,117

Hou +144 500/740
MINN +133 500/665
Oak +173 500/865
Tampa +131 500/655
LA +192 500/960
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I checked Google for a 2005 calendar and the 9th of May 2005 was a Monday which means he posted his plays at 10:50PM at night for that Monday. 31 minutes later he posted his Tuesday plays.

Here is a link to the whole thread for anyone who cares to put in some work and find out what really happened as far as games past posted or games deleted etc.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=271118&highlight=pirates&page=3

If someone can prove all this was on the up and up I will post a public apology to Journeyman.


wil..

 

[Intruder]

wil, the guy hammered his friends.....or the people that thought he was a friend is enough to prove he is a jerk....in real and forum life.

I don't care about what happened between him and the GM.....he torched his friends. (the other mods)

gave out salaries, etc

 

[wilheim]

Intruder

You are absolutely right, anyone with even half a set of balls knows what he did was just plain cowardly.
I was flying in Cobra gunships over Southeast Asia when this dipshit was still sucking his afraid to fly in a commercial airliner thumb.

Good riddance.

Thanks for reminding me.


wil..

 

[teazeman]

I was flying in Cobra gunships over Southeast Asia when this dipshit was still sucking his afraid to fly in a commercial airliner thumb.

wil..

i've met quite a few that have done the above, not one of them did i ever hear called a "yes" man. no one that went there ever should be confused with someone afraid to speak their minds, that's when he lost credibility with me.

 

[Intruder]

You are absolutely right, anyone with even half a set of balls knows what he did was just plain cowardly.
I was flying in Cobra gunships over Southeast Asia when this dipshit was still sucking his afraid to fly in a commercial airliner thumb.

Good riddance.

Thanks for reminding me.


wil..

you don't take down your friends, plain and simple.....yet he does it at a forum he knows the other mods don't post at and can't defend their reputations....


the part that has me puzzled though, is why are there posters actually posting in his threads.....he'll toast them at somepoint. (most he already has)

I've been around for a long time on these boards, fact is he pulled alot of shit well before he begged his way into a mod job.

now he posts asking Shrink if he has a job open....I'll bet he gets one.


Always remember how he sold out his friendships

 

[wilheim]

Thanks Teazeman

Actually it was in VietNam where I learned the meaning of brotherhood and loyalty. Not to get overly dramatic but you learn fast what real loyalty is when as a group you always have each others backs no matter what.



wil..

 

[TheRightSide]

The only problem I have with all this is where are the checks and balances. He is running a contest that he is aloowed to be in. He has the ability to make post and go back and edit the post without other posters knowing this. And if you knew this was happening I have a problem with him not getting fired the instant he did it the 2nd time. That is just down right wrong.

Fuck him and Cal Ripken too.

 

[wilheim]

The Right Side

Back then that was a possibility, but now there are too many eyes on contests. Personally I never enter any contests, even for the raffle at the Bash I didn't take a ticket. Edits all show up no matter who makes them, it's hard deletes that do not leave a trace except in the mod log.

Mods playing in contests has always been a sore spot with me but they are posters also and as long as there is someone like Sportsavant overseeing all entries there won't be any shennagins to worry about when it comes to mods deleting posts. Plus if you delete a post it is easy to discover as I prooved by my posts above.

The $1,000 mini contests like the one running right now (Bears/Packers) do not allow any edits and are foolproof in that manner but it's IP matches that have to be watched closely. Some posters are contest only posters and many try to create ghosts to enter more than once. That happened last night but I caught it.



wil..

 

[TheRightSide]

LOL Glad you got on that.


God us gamblers are some of the worse people on the planet.




Mods should not be able to enter in cash contest period.



BTW Bredders Cup is comming can we count on a contest this year.:money8:

 

[Timetopay]

Back then that was a possibility, but now there are too many eyes on contests. Personally I never enter any contests, even for the raffle at the Bash I didn't take a ticket. Edits all show up no matter who makes them, it's hard deletes that do not leave a trace except in the mod log.

Mods playing in contests has always been a sore spot with me but they are posters also and as long as there is someone like Sportsavant overseeing all entries there won't be any shennagins to worry about when it comes to mods deleting posts. Plus if you delete a post it is easy to discover as I prooved by my posts above.

The $1,000 mini contests like the one running right now (Bears/Packers) do not allow any edits and are foolproof in that manner but it's IP matches that have to be watched closely. Some posters are contest only posters and many try to create ghosts to enter more than once. That happened last night but I caught it.



wil..

Fuck Wil even if it aint military we got the fucking Sopranos. Look what Tony did to the birds P.ussy and Adriana.

Ill say this as an Italian from a huge family its the one thing that you dont do is "spread the family business"

We could talk about everybody in the family to each other but dont go spread shit outside.

This reminds me of my grandma:nono5:

 

[raiders72]

There is nothing worse than a RAT in this business. Retaliation is a different story because you may have to defend yourself.

But to be the first one to come out and post board room threads and back stab is worse than a stiff. A stiff can always make amends but a RAT should never be trusted.

 

[raiders72]

In fact if JMan had just agreed to go on some type of payment plan it would have been forgotten and never known about.

Instead he had to rat people out. Then the gloves come off.

 

[sl55]

Wil did I not say weeks before this happened that Journey had two personalities and that he was now Cigarmans problem.

Didn;t take but two weeks for Cigar to start looking for him.

I am so surprised that he;s getting a pass at the other forum as no one seems to drill him about being a stiff,one of the biggest sins in our world of.

Wrong.Not everybody,you need to read more,admittedly you do have to search because the post get blown off,but they are there.

 

[mrhognuts2]

15:55, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
22:49, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed
23:19, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Soft Deleted
23:20, 9th May 2005 Journeyman Post by Journeyman Removed

At 15:55 which is 3:55PM EDT he made a post it is not there anymore.
At 22:49 which is 10:49PM EDT he made a post it is not there anymire.
At 23;19 which is 11:19 he soft deleted a post and a minute later hard deleted it. This has to be either the 15:55 post or the 22:49 post.
At 23:20 which is when he delete the soft deleted post that is not there any more.

Here is what is posted for May 9th 2005 by Journeyman in his MLB thread:


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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1936602 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #fdde82 1px solid"><!-- icon and title -->

<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Mon Plays
ytd 52-54 +1,667

Hou +140 500/700
LA +147 500/735
TOR U9.5 -125 625/500
NYY -1.5 -127 635/500
TB + 157 500/785
AZ -1.5 +167 500/835
<!-- / message -->
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




<TABLE class=tborder id=post1936678 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead style="BORDER-RIGHT: #fdde82 0px solid; BORDER-TOP: #fdde82 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; BORDER-LEFT: #fdde82 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #fdde82 1px solid">

05-09-2005, 11:21 PM <!-- / status icon and date --></TD><TD class=thead style="BORDER-RIGHT: #fdde82 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #fdde82 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; BORDER-LEFT: #fdde82 0px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #fdde82 1px solid" align=right>#47 <INPUT id=plist_1936678 style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 5px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; PADDING-TOP: 0px" type=checkbox value=0 name=plist[1936678] inlineModID="inlineMod"> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #fdde82 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #fdde82 0px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #fdde82 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #fdde82 0px solid" width=175>Journeyman<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1936678", true); </SCRIPT>
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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1936678 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #fdde82 1px solid"><!-- icon and title -->

<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Tuesday plays YTD 55-57 +2,117

Hou +144 500/740
MINN +133 500/665
Oak +173 500/865
Tampa +131 500/655
LA +192 500/960
<!-- / message -->
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


I checked Google for a 2005 calendar and the 9th of May 2005 was a Monday which means he posted his plays at 10:50PM at night for that Monday. 31 minutes later he posted his Tuesday plays.

Here is a link to the whole thread for anyone who cares to put in some work and find out what really happened as far as games past posted or games deleted etc.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=271118&highlight=pirates&page=3


If someone can prove all this was on the up and up I will post a public apology to Journeyman.


wil..

wil,are you sayin,you had no idea about all this stuff? several times different posters would call him out,and the same thing happened every time...you would come in the thread,and in my estimation,take jmans side...after you would come in the thread,it would all die down,because in my opinion,a lot of these posters were afraid of gettin banned...PLEASE DONT COME IN HERE AND SAY IM BEING ABUSIVE. im asking you a question,and this is my honest opinion and the way i perceived things....'keep the continue'

 

[Antonioli]

Why was the Warload post deleted?

 

[wilheim]

I deleted it because he is obvious as ghost of Journeyman.



wil.

 

[Antonioli]

Let's hear from both sides Wil.

 

[teazeman]

Let's hear from both sides Wil.

i'll give you a quick summation, disgruntalled employee throws former friends and bosses under the bus and talks shit about many, many people that post here. calls others manhood into question, including those that served this country in a time of war, blames others for his oweing a book and trying to get a figure taken care of, excuse after excuse after excuse. get my drift????