Did I deny "not liking the guy"? Why do you want people to say that so badly?
I never said Bell isn't well within his right to do what he is doing. I said he's being a fucking dumbass for doing it.
Maybe he values a few extra dollars over being on a good team. I think a lot of people would disrespect him for that.
Teams like the Steelers don't make mistakes on guys like Bell.
Bell has every right to do what he does and chase more money. I just think it's a dumb move on his part, and on the part of a team that pays that kind of dough for a running back if they don't have a stable franchise in place around him (Jets, Raiders, etc). And on top of that, I don't he stands to make that much more money anyway.
You just saw the Giants make that mistake on OBJ.
Bell has every right to do what he does and chase more money. I just think it's a dumb move on his part, and on the part of a team that pays that kind of dough for a running back if they don't have a stable franchise in place around him (Jets, Raiders, etc). And on top of that, I don't he stands to make that much more money anyway.
You just saw the Giants make that mistake on OBJ.
So if they aren't "worth what they're asking for" (debatable but whatever), then don't pay it. Also, the Steelers paid Bell like 13 million last year so kinda goes against what you're saying, but sure...
If you wanna try to make as much as you can because you're gonna be pissing blood in 10 years and no one is going to care about you, then go for it.
You're argument is far more irrational than logical but I'm glad you made it because it's closer to what people really want to say. They just want to say "These guys are overpaid and don't deserve to make this much money" (even though these leagues make billions of dollars a year in revenue, but sure...)
When they say stuff like
-He should've told the Steelers he wouldn't play this year so don't tag him (GL w/ that....No clue where people got this)
-He let his teammates down
-He should take the tag like most guys do (very, very few guys have played 2 years on the tag so this isn't true)
-He's making a bad economic decision (even if he is, be honest that isn't why people coming into every thread with scorn for him is about)
-He should be blackballed
-I hope no team signs him and he learns a lesson!
Then that's what I'm calling BS on. That's what gets mocked.
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to all my Steeler fans, my desire always has been to retire a Steeler...both sides worked extremely hard today to make that happen, but the NFL is a hard business at times...to the fans that had hope, I’m sorry we let youu down but trust me, 2018 will be my best season to date...
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lol. Your 'desire' was SIGNIFICANTLY more directed towards making a few million more , cmon now, easy on the fluff. And your 2018 season is a big ZILCH- as in yards gained adn monies made
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to all my Steeler fans, my desire always has been to retire a Steeler...both sides worked extremely hard today to make that happen, but the NFL is a hard business at times...to the fans that had hope, I’m sorry we let youu down but trust me, 2018 will be my best season to date...
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lol. Your 'desire' was SIGNIFICANTLY more directed towards making a few million more , cmon now, easy on the fluff. And your 2018 season is a big ZILCH- as in yards gained adn monies made
Paying any non-QB player that kind of money in relation to a team's salary cap in the NFL is pretty egregious, in my opinion. You're right, the Steelers paid him nearly $14 million last year, but I think that was too much. If you have a problem with salary cap structure in the NFL, you can go talk to the owners and players about that.
This isn't the NBA. Bell needs the Steelers much more than the Steelers need Bell. The mistake in this situation is that the Steelers should've gotten rid of Bell before it came to this. I'm sure they're fine letting him go now regardless.
Bell can have fun making around the same amount of money without the benefit of a great franchise, HoF quarterback, and best wideout in the game. The Steelers don't need Bell.
Teams like the Patriots and Steelers don't sell out to make sure guys like Bell get paid. That's why they're in the mix every year, and the Jets aren't. Bell can enjoy his $14-$15 million a year and never sniffing a Super Bowl.
You just said a page ago that you don't see Bell doing better than the contract the Steelers offered him. But now you're saying they're in the mix every year because they don't pay guys like Bell.
Like I said, atleast your honest when you say you just don't like athletes wanting to get paid if they are RB's and WR's. Maybe you should take it up with the GM's that pay these players rather than blame the players themselves for trying to make as much $ as possible in a limited window of time?
Atleast you aren't arguing all he had to do to avoid being tagged was "Tell the Steelers he isn't playing", crazy his agent never thought of that brilliant plan.
Like I said, atleast your honest when you say you just don't like athletes wanting to get paid if they are RB's and WR's. Maybe you should take it up with the GM's that pay these players rather than blame the players themselves for trying to make as much $ as possible in a limited window of time?
Atleast you aren't arguing all he had to do to avoid being tagged was "Tell the Steelers he isn't playing", crazy his agent never thought of that brilliant plan.
I didn't say the Steelers and Patriots win as a result of them not paying guys like Bell. Don't lie.
I'm saying franchises like New England and Pittsburgh are successful because they are able to pass on players like Bell without losing a beat, because they know what Bell is truly worth. That's why they win. They don't over-pay for guys like Bell. The Steelers would gladly have Bell at the right price, sure. But they are not going to over-pay him. They'll happily move on.
Players like Bell try to argue they're worth more than that, and teams like the Steelers or Patriots don't bite at that. That's why they move on from guys like this and hardly lose a beat. And that's why Bell will probably play on the Jets and regret his decision.
That has what to do with the discussion in this thread? This thread has nothing to do with the Steelers or Patriots superiority at roster construction or how they build sustainable success. This is just goal post moving.
It has to do with the fact that it is stupid to go full blown snowflake because a player doesn't want to accept the terms of a deal and thus making up all sorts of reasons to justify FBS (full blown snowfake)
People hate them some L Bell all because he had a difference of opinion of his worth vs the Steelers. Odd?
It has to do with the fact that it is stupid to go full blown snowflake because a player doesn't want to accept the terms of a deal and thus making up all sorts of reasons to justify FBS (full blown snowfake)
People hate them some L Bell all because he had a difference of opinion of his worth vs the Steelers. Odd?
I never argued that Bell violated terms of a contract, and I never even mentioned him being a "shitty teammate" or that he "owed his teammates something." Those are dumb snowflake arguments.
I argued that Bell is a dumbass, which is completely valid. Pittsburgh will end up offering almost as much money as any team can AND he can stay on a contender.
You think he's getting a long-term guaranteed contract of $14-15 million a year on another contender? Please. Not happening. This is the NFL, and he's a running back.
It was outlined to you in a previous post in this thread (2nd, 3rd page by ErocKmoney) why the contract the Steelers offered him wasn't what it appeared to be. Why he didn't want it.
Guys a lot worse than L Bell get paid in FA.....Malcolm Butler, Sammy Watkins...Once you get to FA and you got 32 teams to choose from with a salary cap of 185 mill, these are the guys that get overpaid. Bell wants to be 1 of them......The QB's, guys on rookie deals and guys who sign new contracts while on old ones are the guys that are underpaid as far as asset values. So getting to free agency is a big deal.
A lot of teams with QB's on rookie deals with $ to blow......Maybe he made a bad economic decision, maybe he didn't but I think it would be foolish to suggest the vitriol towards him comes from that. People just get in their feelings when athletes want to get paid. It's interesting to see.
Guys a lot worse than L Bell get paid in FA.....Malcolm Butler, Sammy Watkins...Once you get to FA and you got 32 teams to choose from with a salary cap of 185 mill, these are the guys that get overpaid. Bell wants to be 1 of them......The QB's, guys on rookie deals and guys who sign new contracts while on old ones are the guys that are underpaid as far as asset values. So getting to free agency is a big deal.
A lot of teams with QB's on rookie deals with $ to blow......Maybe he made a bad economic decision, maybe he didn't but I think it would be foolish to suggest the vitriol towards him comes from that. People just get in their feelings when athletes want to get paid. It's interesting to see.
