If it’s “selfish” then it certainly shouldn’t be in a negative connotation. He’s just looking out for his career whether you agree with it or not. That isn’t really selfish to me, but that’s more semantics.
If he doesnt want to play on the franchise tag for a 2nd time then more power to him.
And fans obviously hate athletes wanting more money.
Bell isn't going to get more than what the Steelers offered him, unless it is some free-falling team like Oakland.
The Steelers offered him too much IMO. And they are, and will continue to be, fine without Bell.
Fans bad mouth athletes who hold out and skip team time for more money. Not those who enter negotiations for more money. That’s common. If that were the case there wouldn’t be an nfl player left to like. It is the fact he is skipping critical time. Only thing you can skip without the public getting upset is training camp. Anything after that starts pissing people off.
You’re crazy. The Steelers offer was piss poor and his agents knew it. The base salary wasn’t unreasonable, but the deal included virtually no signing bonus, limited/no incentive based escalators and around 40-45% guaranteed money. At the time of the offer, lesser backs like Freeman and McCoy were already getting 2-3 times in singing bonus, 50-60% guaranteed money and significant incentives.
His agents knew damn well monster deals for Gurley/DJ we’re right around the corner and discussions on other big guns like Elliott/Gordon are likely beginning in the offseason. The 2-3 times in signing bonus has become 3-4+ times, the 50-60% guaranteed has already become 80%+ and incentive based escalators have skyrocketed in just four months since the Steelers last offer.
You’re crazy. The Steelers offer was piss poor and his agents knew it. The base salary wasn’t unreasonable, but the deal included virtually no signing bonus, limited/no incentive based escalators and around 40-45% guaranteed money. At the time of the offer, lesser backs like Freeman and McCoy were already getting 2-3 times in singing bonus, 50-60% guaranteed money and significant incentives.
His agents knew damn well monster deals for Gurley/DJ we’re right around the corner and discussions on other big guns like Elliott/Gordon are likely beginning in the offseason. The 2-3 times in signing bonus has become 3-4+ times, the 50-60% guaranteed has already become 80%+ and incentive based escalators have skyrocketed in just four months since the Steelers last offer.
You’re crazy. The Steelers offer was piss poor and his agents knew it. The base salary wasn’t unreasonable, but the deal included virtually no signing bonus, limited/no incentive based escalators and around 40-45% guaranteed money. At the time of the offer, lesser backs like Freeman and McCoy were already getting 2-3 times in singing bonus, 50-60% guaranteed money and significant incentives.
His agents knew damn well monster deals for Gurley/DJ we’re right around the corner and discussions on other big guns like Elliott/Gordon are likely beginning in the offseason. The 2-3 times in signing bonus has become 3-4+ times, the 50-60% guaranteed has already become 80%+ and incentive based escalators have skyrocketed in just four months since the Steelers last offer.
LeVeon was tagged. That is an owners right as collectively bargained. The assumption is that players agree to whatever their union negotiate. I think that LeVeon should have played the season out under the tag and become a free agent after the season as virtually all tagged players do. When he didn't he screwed his team because all (both players and coaches) were expecting him to show up and play.
Apparently he will now be a free agent next season. In my opinion no one is going to offer him more than Pittsburgh did. If that's the case he just left a lot of money on the table.
That's just my opinion. I certainly could be wrong. We'll see.
Try to avoid these back and forths, Patsfan.
We could carry this to several more posts each. I'd rather not.
I am however interested in whether or not you expect Wynn's Encore to succeed in Everett.
The one thing I will say about football contracts is this. Football is the one sport where owners don't have to honor their contracts. Teams can simply choose to cut players and not pay them, and teams do just that. They also use leverage to have players sign new contracts for less money. So football is the one sport I don't automatically disrespect players for wanting more money and NOT honoring their contracts. Commitment should be a two way street, it's not, and players have to make as much as they can when the sun is shining on them.
Having said that, Bell handled himself like an asshole throughout this process and I don't respect him for that.
Exactly.
The owners are well within their right, as collectively bargained, to tag the guy. You might not like that as a "pro-free market" person, but it is what it is.
The only teams that would be dumb enough to pay him more would be free-falling franchises like the Jets and Raiders. If you want to go there and make slightly more money to go 4-12 every year, then good riddance.
dez bryant's situation probably solidified his decision to himself. i didnt like it to start the season but at this point i think not coming back at all is best for him and the steelers. i also think the reporting on this was terrible. pretty sure he never said he would report by any time, people just assumed via twitter and bad reporting. he always said he wanted to protect his long term value, which is still true based on his actions. he pretty much indicated he was willing to sit out the whole year so not sure why people are surprised that he is actually doing it.
dez bryant's situation probably solidified his decision to himself. i didnt like it to start the season but at this point i think not coming back at all is best for him and the steelers. i also think the reporting on this was terrible. pretty sure he never said he would report by any time, people just assumed via twitter and bad reporting. he always said he wanted to protect his long term value, which is still true based on his actions. he pretty much indicated he was willing to sit out the whole year so not sure why people are surprised that he is actually doing it.
Just because they’re well within their right doesn’t change anything I said ITT
Hes well within his right to hold out, so why are people like you attacking his character for it? “Assholes like Bell”
What in this situation makes him an asshole?
Sounds like you just don’t like the guy, why not just say that?
Again, fans just don’t like guys wanting more money.
Just because they’re well within their right doesn’t change anything I said ITT
Hes well within his right to hold out, so why are people like you attacking his character for it? “Assholes like Bell”
What in this situation makes him an asshole?
Sounds like you just don’t like the guy, why not just say that?
Again, fans just don’t like guys wanting more money.