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I'm kinda surprised the NFL passed this .

I guess they got over the safety first kick they were on once the lawsuit got settled.

I would think goal line plays from the 1 or 2 can be some of the most physical play in football.

Heck 2 years ago kicking it off from the 30 was too dangerous. And that's special teamers.

Now all of a sudden they ok a new play where 22 starters basically run into each other as hard and as fast as they can.
 

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Proposal #2, from Philly, is the 2 point conversion from the 1. It will increase going for 2.

Well that is a whole different ballgame if it passes. Not really what we're discussing so far.

I don't see coaches going for 2 because it is worth 3/100ths of a point in EV. These guys don't even go for it on 4th and 1 at the opponents 43 yard line.
 

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I'm kinda surprised the NFL passed this .

I guess they got over the safety first kick they were on once the lawsuit got settled.

I would think goal line plays from the 1 or 2 can be some of the most physical play in football.

Heck 2 years ago kicking it off from the 30 was too dangerous. And that's special teamers.

Now all of a sudden they ok a new play where 22 starters basically run into each other as hard and as fast as they can.

no, special teams is far more dangerous... its men running full speed ahead at one another, and you can get tunnel vision and not see the guy coming thats running full speed at you and rocks you..

anyone that has played even HS football can tell you that special teams is where you give and get the biggest hits. My personal opinion is this isn't even a 10th as dangerous as kick offs
 

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thats not the one that passed. it was the competition committee, from the 2

Didn't realize they passed it already. Sorry. It's still an improvement, and Tebow will still be a 2 point weapon. Depending on his success/failure, there will be other teams that try what Chip is doing.
 

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I really don't think we see a huge uptick in 2pt conversions this year when the weather is normal.

I'd almost be shocked. If you wanna spice it up and get a little frisky, just go for it on 4th down more.
 

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no, special teams is far more dangerous... its men running full speed ahead at one another, and you can get tunnel vision and not see the guy coming thats running full speed at you and rocks you..
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anyone that has played even HS football can tell you that special teams is where you give and get the biggest hits. My personal opinion is this isn't even a 10th as dangerous as kick offs

Yea I know that but the 2 is certainly more dangerous then kicking an extra point.

The average salary of the 22 players on a kickoff is probably less then 1.5 mill per.
The average pay for the 22 players on a 2 pointer is probably 4x more then that.
 

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I really don't think we see a huge uptick in 2pt conversions this year when the weather is normal.

I'd almost be shocked. If you wanna spice it up and get a little frisky, just go for it on 4th down more.

Well when they miss the 1 pointers that's going to force them to go for 2 the next time.



I will bet you there will be at least 4x more 2 pointers attempted next season then last season.
 

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Yea I know that but the 2 is certainly more dangerous then kicking an extra point.

The average salary of the 22 players on a kickoff is probably less then 1.5 mill per.
The average pay for the 22 players on a 2 pointer is probably 4x more then that.

good point, but idk I think it's good for the game, and a necessary change
 

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Well when they miss the 1 pointers that's going to force them to go for 2 the next time.



I will bet you there will be at least 4x more 2 pointers attempted next season then last season.

I guess that is possible out of necessity and game situation. What I'm saying is coaches won't do it out of purely #s and game theory, the edge is miniscule and it invites too much criticism over such a small edge.
 

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Well whenthey miss the 1 pointers that's going to force them to go for 2 the next time.


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I will bet you there will be at least 4x more 2 pointers attempted next season then last season.


I will make the bet 3x.
4x is going overboard

I bet there will be at least triple the amount of 2 point attempts next seaso vs last season
 

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I do think it is stupid though because it is going to place greater significance on kickers and what is the point of that?
 

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NFL approves rule changes to extra point....

The NFL approved rule changes to the way extra points and two-point conversions are handled at owners meetings on Tuesday.


The NFL owners approved rule changes to the extra point Tuesday at the spring meetings in San Francisco. The proposal that was eventually set forth by the competition committee -- the one which moves the extra point try without moving the yard-line for a two-point conversion attempt -- is the one that passed.

Currently the line of scrimmage for both the extra point and two-point conversion is at the 2-yard line. Kicking the extra point there -- the equivalent of a 20-yard field goal -- essentially makes a touchdown worth seven points because of the near-perfect accuracy of kickers from that distance. Kickers have made at least 99 percent of extra points in each of the last five seasons, and there hasn't even been a season under 97 percent since 1988.

The adoption of the two-point conversion in 1994 added a strategic wrinkle to game-calling. Teams had the choice to either take the safe extra point or go for two points by trying to get into the end zone from the 2-yard line. Last year, teams converted 47.5 percent (27 of 56) of their two-point attempts. Since the rule was adopted, there have been only four seasons with a success rate of better than 50 percent.

The reason this is significant is that other proposals that were voted on included a change that would move the two-point conversion attempt up to the 1-yard line, which would convince teams to go for it more often. Last season, teams had a 57.5 percent success rate both rushing and throwing for touchdowns from the 1-yard line.

Now the ball will be placed at the 15-yard line for the extra point, making the kick a more difficult 33-yard attempt. Over the last five seasons, teams have made roughly 93 percent of field goals from that distance, meaning that the decision to kick the extra point is no longer a mere formality after scoring a touchdown.

Another interesting twist is that the ball will be live after the extra point or two-point conversion attempt. This means that the defense has a chance to score two points if they force a turnover. It makes the post-touchdown play a much more interesting one from a defensive perspective and will force teams to really consider the personnel they use on extra points and two-point conversion attempts.

It's worth noting that teams which line up at the 15-yard line can still score two points if they get into the end zone, whether because they faked it or had to abort the kick attempt. Teams are also allowed to change their mind if penalties occur. If it's an offensive penalty, they can choose to kick the ball from the 20-yard line (in the case of a false start) or the 25-yard line (in the case of holding) for one point. If it's a defensive penalty, they can try a two-point attempt from the 1-yard line.

Safeties also come into the equation. Philadelphia's proposal would have made any safety worth two points, but under the accepted competition committee proposal, they will be worth one point, regardless which direction they go. If the defense possesses the ball, leaves the end zone and then re-enters the end zone, the offense can get a safety if they make a tackle. If the offense possesses the ball and somehow manages to be taken for a 90-plus yard safety, the defense would get one point.

The Oakland Raiders and Washington both voted against the extra point rule change, according to Mike Garafolo of FOX Sports.
 

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Hernandez probably thinking it doesn't matter too much that he went to jail. Would've likely killed a kicker for missing an XP now anyway.
 

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It's just gonna be stupid when a team makes some miraculous drive to tie the game but instead of the lock XP, everyone has to wait for a 33 yard kick.

I think it might take some emotion and excitement out of the game. Also, more than a few kickers are going to miss big XPs and so much goes into football that your just making the kickers be way more important than they should be.
 

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It's just gonna be stupid when a team makes some miraculous drive to tie the game but instead of the lock XP, everyone has to wait for a 33 yard kick.

I think it might take some emotion and excitement out of the game. Also, more than a few kickers are going to miss big XPs and so much goes into football that your just making the kickers be way more important than they should be.

i look forward to the day we agree on something
 

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