What are we going to do about China ?

[SgtLanquel]

We ... Our country . that's we for me. Not sure about you

"We" implies that *you* will be part of the response

No one in China cares what *you* think in same way that no one at the AMA looks to my POTUS FTD taunt thread for guidance. *We* are irrelevant

If you meant to ask "What will the U.S. government do About China" (wtf that means) here is a handy primer

The POTUS will praise them and declare President Xi as a great man...in January and February

The POTUS will slam them and declare they are 100% at fault for the 65,000 (and rising) dead Americans....in March and April

The SENATE will do nothing because CocaineMitch and his family are into the Chinese for tens of millions in personal wealth over past decade

The HOUSE will do nothing because without the full cooperation of the SENATE and the POTUS, anything they attempt will be useless

Sorry I took so long to clear this important matter up for you

 

[REDEYE]

"We" implies that *you* will be part of the response

No one in China cares what *you* think in same way that no one at the AMA looks to my POTUS FTD taunt thread for guidance. *We* are irrelevant

If you meant to ask "What will the U.S. government do About China" (wtf that means) here is a handy primer

The POTUS will praise them and declare President Xi as a great man...in January and February

The POTUS will slam them and declare they are 100% at fault for the 65,000 (and rising) dead Americans....in March and April

The SENATE will do nothing because CocaineMitch and his family are into the Chinese for tens of millions in personal wealth over past decade

The HOUSE will do nothing because without the full cooperation of the SENATE and the POTUS, anything they attempt will be useless

Sorry I took so long to clear this important matter up for you

Stfu

 

[Albatross]

Sounds good and that will hit them when it hurts.

The only problem is, many Americans do business in China so those Americans will get hurt.
The Chinese own businesses in the States

I agree with an earlier post saying that Biden wont do much if elected. Trump will at least attempt to strong arm them.

Maybe team up with our allies and buy less from them?

Politicians made this problem by giving huge tax breaks to move companies out of the States. One of the biggest blunders in our history.

 

[NorthernStar]

Do you really think any of the people making huge dollars give a shit about the average american? Zero chance.

If the can use the cheap labor market in China to sell you the big screen TV for $750....guess what they are going to do?

If it is made in the USA and the make the same profit but the price is $1,500.....guess what they dont sell as many.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about you either....they are going to say what you want to hear to get elected and then do as the rich guy that donated to their campaign ask them to do when it comes time to vote.

Anyone here who thinks some politican is all out for the little guy is absolutely clueless.

 

[Albatross]

Do you really think any of the people making huge dollars give a shit about the average american? Zero chance.

If the can use the cheap labor market in China to sell you the big screen TV for $750....guess what they are going to do?

If it is made in the USA and the make the same profit but the price is $1,500.....guess what they dont sell as many.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about you either....they are going to say what you want to hear to get elected and then do as the rich guy that donated to their campaign ask them to do when it comes time to vote.

Anyone here who thinks some politican is all out for the little guy is absolutely clueless.

I tend to agree with this. Only reason I have enjoyed Trump as POTUS......he at least is trying to work for the common man with his policies. Definitely not perfect, but a shimmering light in the political world. Probably the main reason MSM and other politicians despise him.

 

[REDEYE]

Do you really think any of the people making huge dollars give a shit about the average american? Zero chance.

If the can use the cheap labor market in China to sell you the big screen TV for $750....guess what they are going to do?

If it is made in the USA and the make the same profit but the price is $1,500.....guess what they dont sell as many.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about you either....they are going to say what you want to hear to get elected and then do as the rich guy that donated to their campaign ask them to do when it comes time to vote.

Anyone here who thinks some politican is all out for the little guy is absolutely clueless.

Pretty much why people need to take notice of what's going on and vote this year. Alot on the line going forward

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Boycotting Walmart is a start....

 

[REDEYE]

Boycotting Walmart is a start....

For sure VD. Avoid China products at all costs. Enough people doing it , will make a difference to start

 

[THawk+]

Do you really think any of the people making huge dollars give a shit about the average american? Zero chance.

If the can use the cheap labor market in China to sell you the big screen TV for $750....guess what they are going to do?

If it is made in the USA and the make the same profit but the price is $1,500.....guess what they dont sell as many.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about you either....they are going to say what you want to hear to get elected and then do as the rich guy that donated to their campaign ask them to do when it comes time to vote.

Anyone here who thinks some politican is all out for the little guy is absolutely clueless.

That is why you give incentives to American companies to manufacture things here to make it here.
IF they make it in China they are penalized, if it is made here they get an incentive to make it worth it and the price can be lower

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

For sure VD. Avoid China products at all costs. Enough people doing it , will make a difference to start

Tought to avoid all products, but not tough from walking in the front doors of Walmart....there are products from China that are not noticed at first glance...

 

[HamGlaze]

Are the Chinese crazy enough to start launching nukes? Wars have been started over economic conditions. If China’s economy starts tanking and the political structure starts imploding will they be bat shit soup crazy to go ahead and take the world down with it? Now I don’t think when it comes down to it they will but they’ve been quite pushy lately with threats and military operations in around the South China Sea. Saw an interesting take about China recently on the Joe Rogan podcast saying that if China is going down and the people see bad times and starvation ahead while looking at the leaders, the leaders are looked upon like a boat captain and if the boat is going down the captain is going down with it and he might decide if he’s going down then they’re taking us down with it.

 

[bigbet1234]

Are the Chinese crazy enough to start launching nukes? Wars have been started over economic conditions. If China’s economy starts tanking and the political structure starts imploding will they be bat shit soup crazy to go ahead and take the world down with it? Now I don’t think when it comes down to it they will but they’ve been quite pushy lately with threats and military operations in around the South China Sea. Saw an interesting take about China recently on the Joe Rogan podcast saying that if China is going down and the people see bad times and starvation ahead while looking at the leaders, the leaders are looked upon like a boat captain and if the boat is going down the captain is going down with it and he might decide if he’s going down then they’re taking us down with it.

Heard the same Podcast. Interesting take on this whole mess for sure

 

[exploited17]

China isn't that desperate to launch nukes. They are still a world leader. There issue is largely 1.4 billion. I think they would rather fight a regular war and take over America if they were that desperate. Or keep doing what they are doing and just own America outright. Nukes is for a crazy little dump countries with little or no ability to conquer and don't want to allow any freedoms that would lead to bettering themselves

 

[REDEYE]

30 million now have filed for unemployment... one way or the other , we need some kind of retribution for this.. if our only choice is to take it , we do it. can't go the liberal way of doing things here this time..

 

[Bozzie]

Unfortunately nothing is going to happen till this economy is up a running again.
US companies depend on china far too much as it is, any action a this point isn't going help US companies. The administrations action thus far shows the commitment to the domestic economy and again unfortunately our economy depends on the Chinese in many ways.

Somewhere down the road maybe but nothing drastic anytime soon.

 

[CaptainLee]

What you're missing is the American government and big business have gutted our manufacturing infrastructure to the point that we are no longer self-sufficient. See the current PPE and medical situation. There are a million other examples to prove America isn't prepared for a back and forth economic trade war with the Chinese.

America also is the world's largest debtor. It is dependent on it's creditors, not the opposite.

In fact, America is very vulnerable to a Chinese retaliation.

 

[REDEYE]

What you're missing is the American government and big business have gutted our manufacturing infrastructure to the point that we are no longer self-sufficient. See the current PPE and medical situation. There are a million other examples to prove America isn't prepared for a back and forth economic trade war with the Chinese.

America also is the world's largest debtor. It is dependent on it's creditors, not the opposite.

In fact, America is very vulnerable to a Chinese retaliation.

will we be able to turn this around immediately .. probably not.. but I'm more of a half glass full guy , instead of looking at what we can't do.. I believe steps can be taken now .. its been a punch in the stomach for the whole country.. have to start somewhere.. We can start with the consumer boycotting Chinese products and I can see that happening with a lot of the population.. maybe the end game also will be to just to eliminate the debt with China . tell them to fuck off if they can't do something about the damage they've caused

 

[CaptainLee]

I agree that something has to be done with China, but America is economically the equivalent of a stage 4 cancer patient. Problems that have been growing for decades aren't going to be resolved with short term changes. This isn't going to correct itself without first going through a collapse and nearly everybody is going to surrender major concessions. So I'm agreeing with you that this country isn't prepared to go through a depression, but we're going to get what the doctor has ordered regardless who's feelings are bruised and promises are broken.

That presents logistics and political issues, because who's going to surrender their easy lifestyle and goodies first? A lot of pensions throughout the military, academia, first responders and other public servants have been ridiculously promised too much with minimal funding behind those promises. Millions who are able to work are collecting welfare and disability. The stock market is fragile and interest rates are zero, so where are the future returns going to come from to pay for all the promised goodies?

Are you willing to pay more for nearly everything you buy to manufacture products in America? How much extra are you willing to pay? I'm betting most Americans aren't. They say they are, but we'll see how that unfolds when their Amazon and Walmart shopping sprees cost much more than they do now. I've already read the posts about you and others stating they don't shop at Walmart. That's great, but every other place you're shopping at is stocked with Chinese and other foreign produced goods.

Our government looks embarrassing how unprepared it was for this crisis. It isn't Trump's fault, this has been building for decades. Think of Trump as the nfl coach that looks lost after the broken down team that drafted poorly and made a series of stupid free agent off season moves finally is exposed with consecutive 1-15 seasons. Instead of bailing out every broke company on wall street, people with too much debt, and restaurants that can't make payroll, he should have said, oh well and let the chips fall.

 

[REDEYE]

I think alot of people are willing to pay more for the same thing if China is the other option... People just need to be more observant of what and where they're buying it from.. Just because I don't shop at Walmart , I do realize China goods are in a number of outlets... I'm probably not the only one reevaluating this and what they will do going forward...

one step at a time...tough task ahead .. some people are just going to have to see the greater good here..

 

[CaptainLee]

For many Americans the reevaluation is going to involve determining what they need and what they want. Even a 10% overall goods cost increase would put millions of American household budgets into the red.