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Kuwl, What is OBV please?


OBV Tracks insider and institutional ownership. The tell-tale to me was looking back over the chart and seeing what happened before the big run back in September. Look at the OBV from September and look at it now ... tells me big money is buying and holding, and also looks very reminiscent to the buying before the big run back in Sept. Here's a chart:

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thats great news actually but why on earth are they just requesting all these documents now. How long do you think it will take all these entities listed to gather such documents. that could take months in all seriousness unless they are all ready to go.

keep us updated if you see anything new. thanks
 

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thats great news actually but why on earth are they just requesting all these documents now. How long do you think it will take all these entities listed to gather such documents. that could take months in all seriousness unless they are all ready to go.

keep us updated if you see anything new. thanks


Well, supposedly there's a big court date in early March. I honestly havent stayed on top of this as much as I'd like too, but I know it's worth having a decent position going into this next court hearing in case we get a huge speculative move like we did back in September.

I dont know, this one is all over the place. All I know is if it gravitates back towards .10, I'm gonna load up again as it seems to be an easy double back to .20. Still, I highly doubt this goes to trial ... I am under the impression this will be settled outside of court to hide all of JPM's/Dimon's wrong-doing and I dont see it going much longer than June.

Just give me $5/share and I'll be happy, lol.
 

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Added 10K at .226


Flipped these trading shares at .2465 earlier.

Looking to re-buy closer to .24 or high .23s ... .25 has been strong resistance, so not sure if the stock is going to break-down a few cents since it cant break .25, or if it's going to base here today and gap and run tomorrow.
 

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Flipped these trading shares at .2465 earlier.

Looking to re-buy closer to .24 or high .23s ... .25 has been strong resistance, so not sure if the stock is going to break-down a few cents since it cant break .25, or if it's going to base here today and gap and run tomorrow.


Re-added 5k at .243 and just bought another 5k at .25 ... looks like .25 is gonna fall, then it's gonna fly imo.
 

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Greetings

The market appears to be in the process of pricing in a favorable ruling next Thursday. It's my understanding, however, that the judge is to rule on (among other things) two critical issues: (1) whether the stay requested by the FDIC on the $4B remains in place (with JPG holding the money, but subject to the directions of the FDIC, which could direct them to transfer it to the FDIC); and (2) the debtor's motion for an SJ as to the money.

Based on the previous hearing, it seems to be certain that the judge will deny the FDIC's motion. This is what I think the market has been pricing in to the PPS over the last two days (an almost 30% increase in the PPS).

The way I'm viewing all this is (IMO):

If she denies (1), and doesn't rule on (2), then that means a settlement is VERY near and she doesn't want to alter the status quo by transfering the $4B, which is to play some sort of role in such a settlement. This scenario should'nt cause the PPS to rise dramatically because we'd be right back to where we were in January; i.e., no REAL decision regarding who owns the money.

If she denies (1), and grants (2), then settlement talks have broken down and she's going to give the debtor the money so that it can realistically complete some sort of plan of reorganization. This would most certainly cause the PPS to rise dramatically, but it would mean that settlement was out in the future somewhere.

Clearly, I'm hoping for the first scenario, which might even see dramatic decrease in the PPS, which would present the very last opportunity for a flip and re-purchase of free shares.

Any thoughts?
 

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The way I'm viewing all this is (IMO):

If she denies (1), and doesn't rule on (2), then that means a settlement is VERY near and she doesn't want to alter the status quo by transfering the $4B, which is to play some sort of role in such a settlement. This scenario should'nt cause the PPS to rise dramatically because we'd be right back to where we were in January; i.e., no REAL decision regarding who owns the money.

If she denies (1), and grants (2), then settlement talks have broken down and she's going to give the debtor the money so that it can realistically complete some sort of plan of reorganization. This would most certainly cause the PPS to rise dramatically, but it would mean that settlement was out in the future somewhere.

Clearly, I'm hoping for the first scenario, which might even see dramatic decrease in the PPS, which would present the very last opportunity for a flip and re-purchase of free shares.

Any thoughts?


I'm rooting for Scenario #1 as well ... in which case I would love a negative reaction so we can once again load up on the cheap. To me, it doesnt really matter as I've paid off the majority of my original shares by flipping this thing like a mad man.


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Added 5k at .27, added 10k at .262 ... good ol' fashion shake-out while the OBV and Chi-Osc show big money gapped it down just to buy the panic shares. Bounce time.
 

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Are we going to see any kind of ruling tomorrow?


That's the million dollar question ... my guess is no. But that'd be a good thing, gives everyone another chance to reload on the cheap ... wash, rinse, repeat.


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Yet another delay, this time until the 12th. Wow. I see some people (on other boards, that is) speculating that this means they are nearing a settlement. While that could be the case, it could also be that JPM somehow just got Walrath to give them another extension. I have to give them credit -- they are absolute masters when it comes to stall tactics.
 

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Washington Mutual Sees `Momentum' In Talks With JP MorganFont size: A | A | A1:06 PM ET 3/4/10 | Dow Jones
By Peg Brickley

Of DOW JONES DAILY BANKRUPTCY REVIEW

WILMINGTON, Del. (Dow Jones)--A lawyer for Washington Mutual Inc. (WAMUQ) Thursday reported "momentum" in discussions aimed at settling disputes arising out of the largest banking collapse in U.S. history, that of Washington Mutual Bank, or WaMu.

Brian Rosen told a bankruptcy judge that a deal could be on the way soon among Washington Mutual, WaMu's former parent; WaMu's new owner, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

The three have been wrestling over some $4 billion in cash that was in Washington Mutual's bank accounts at WaMu when the thrift was seized and sold to J.P. Morgan in September 2008.

Investors have been hoping talks would result in a settlement that means payment sooner rather than later on billions of dollars worth of debts left in the wake of WaMu's failure.

The thrift's seizure has triggered a flurry of lawsuits, some aimed at J.P. Morgan, some at the FDIC and some at Washington Mutual Inc., arousing fear among investors that court fights could tie up the money for years.

Negotiations have "accelerated over the past few days," said Rosen, who is with Weil, Gotshal & Manges.

"There seems to be some momentum," he added. As a result, the former bank holding company agreed to push off scheduled court fights over the bank account cash.

His remarks fueled hopes a settlement will clear away the cloud of litigation surrounding the assets left in the wake of WaMu's collapse.

Besides the bank account cash, there are billions of dollars worth of tax refunds on the way. J.P. Morgan, Washington Mutual and the FDIC, as receiver for WaMu's creditors, have all laid claim to the money.

Rosen's remarks came at a session in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del., where a judge was scheduled to weigh the FDIC's case for grabbing the bank account cash.

Washington Mutual and others involved in negotiations agreed to push off the court fights for continued talks, Rosen said.

Judge Mary Walrath is already mulling a request from Washington Mutual for a court order requiring J.P. Morgan to surrender the contents of Washington Mutual's bank accounts to the former parent company.
 

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I have no idea what happened, but when I saw the double-bottom at .25 and saw the OBV still churning higher, I knew it was time to buy. I grabbed a boatload at .26 and am holding ... we close a lot higher. Not sure about the .40s but we're moving higher as I'm watching L2 and the 50k and 100k blocks just keep hitting the ask.

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