Vittard says he'll make more money betting Miami+8 tonight than I make in a week, is he lying?

[vitterd]

not too long ago, Zit sent me a PM supporting vitterd's position about winning > 1 million dollars playing poker

nothing definitive he said, just a hunch based on some interaction with vitterd (I dismissed his opinion, he knows this)

anyhow, the reason I bringing this up now is to point out how much things have changed with respect to Zit's opinion of vitterd (and I'm not interested in rehashing any of that old stuff, it's fruitless. We both made our arguments, people know where we and they stand)

It's pretty simple. Whether Zit will admit this or not I don't know. We exchanged several emails years ago and I did include some information that would have probably made it easy for him to track down certain info. If he did or not, I don't know, but seeing that during that time he was sure everything I've said was true.

A few years ago I explained I lost some live winnings back in a short period on the Internet. I did suspect that cheating was going on and stopped Internet play. I said here and some of the poker people said it's impossible. Of course later it turns out UB did have cheaters. Choptalk chimed in and said if I give him my handle on UB that he would check it out. Saying he can find out the limits I played or something like that. I then pm'd him my username and he said he didn't have time or interest to look. My guess, he did look and saw the stakes I was playing and rather than just saying that, he was all the sudden not interested.

Ive never claimed to be a professional anything.....but I did what I did over a very short period of time and only even mentioned it to defend myself against liars and people claiming welfare case and other nonsense.

Joe is a certifiable lunatic that is just making up total lies about bets that never happened or were offered. There is a reason he's been banned from here and laughed off other websites. The guy is a con artist and accepting a bet from a scammer is never gonna happen.

 

[vitterd]

You see Zit, you hit the nail on the head...this is the exact same type of behavior exhibited by DaFinch calling me a liar post after post, time after time...I ask him to stake up but he won't. He just keeps running his pussy ass little mouth calling me a liar and other names.....(always talking about penises too...creepy). I've even offered him a 10 to 1 bet $100,000 to his $10,000 that everything I claim is accurate. I'll even pay his way with vitterd or someone else to 3rd party fact check out of the $10k he will be handing over to me.

Once you call them to the mat, they turn around and say "OHHH..I would NEVER make a bet with anyone on the internet ! I don't trust you !" or some wack ass shit like that yo. In my experience, these are people that are hiding lies of their own and know they will get exposed. Maybe it's part of being a liberal and not being held to any type of moral compass in your life...you spout off about whatever the F it is you want then cower like a bitch when the bell tolls.

Well, then if that's the case, shut your pussy ass fuckin mouth. Pussies.

Again, I've offered several bets to Joe and others and they never accept. Not a word from anyone. When I decline one bet.....you guys show up.

Joe is a scammer and con man here for a decade. I will not accept a bet from him where he can manipulate it. I have offered him several bets for as much as he wants....where picks are posted. He has never accepted ONE

 

[SheriffJoe]

"Joe posted fake tickets" - poker fraud vtard

Let it be known this idiot is the only poster who questions the validity of my tickets - without ANY proof! Let it also be known the same idiot won't walk his talk. Shocker!

As per the norm, he runs his mouth all day and all night, but never - not once! - backs up his bullshit with action. The list of excuses this idiot comes up with is surreal...

"no tax info, you guys are psychos!"
"too little $$$ from Willie!"
"Joe made some huge deposit so he could kick me off!"

And on it goes..

The guy is a BROKE phony chicken shit coward!

 

[festeringZit]

It's pretty simple. Whether Zit will admit this or not I don't know. We exchanged several emails years ago and I did include some information that would have probably made it easy for him to track down certain info. If he did or not, I don't know, but seeing that during that time he was sure everything I've said was true.

A few years ago I explained I lost some live winnings back in a short period on the Internet. I did suspect that cheating was going on and stopped Internet play. I said here and some of the poker people said it's impossible. Of course later it turns out UB did have cheaters. Choptalk chimed in and said if I give him my handle on UB that he would check it out. Saying he can find out the limits I played or something like that. I then pm'd him my username and he said he didn't have time or interest to look. My guess, he did look and saw the stakes I was playing and rather than just saying that, he was all the sudden not interested.

Ive never claimed to be a professional anything.....but I did what I did over a very short period of time and only even mentioned it to defend myself against liars and people claiming welfare case and other nonsense.

Joe is a certifiable lunatic that is just making up total lies about bets that never happened or were offered. There is a reason he's been banned from here and laughed off other websites. The guy is a con artist and accepting a bet from a scammer is never gonna happen.

Vitterd never gave me any information to verify if the poker winnings claim is true... At that time I was leaning towards believing that he was
telling the truth (a couple years ago). Now, frankly I don't really know either way, and I don't really care.

I'm somewhat embarrassed that I go back and forth with Vit, because it's such a waste of time. I really should be better at ignoring him.

His shtick and bullshit is so annoying: "Joe posted fake tickets" blah blah blah, ad nauseam.

 

[festeringZit]

Again, I've offered several bets to Joe and others and they never accept. Not a word from anyone. When I decline one bet.....you guys show up.

Joe is a scammer and con man here for a decade. I will not accept a bet from him where he can manipulate it. I have offered him several bets for as much as he wants....where picks are posted. He has never accepted ONE

More lies. (see I can't help myself. lol)

 

[festeringZit]

You see Zit, you hit the nail on the head...this is the exact same type of behavior exhibited by DaFinch calling me a liar post after post, time after time...I ask him to stake up but he won't. He just keeps running his pussy ass little mouth calling me a liar and other names.....(always talking about penises too...creepy). I've even offered him a 10 to 1 bet $100,000 to his $10,000 that everything I claim is accurate. I'll even pay his way with vitterd or someone else to 3rd party fact check out of the $10k he will be handing over to me.

Once you call them to the mat, they turn around and say "OHHH..I would NEVER make a bet with anyone on the internet ! I don't trust you !" or some wack ass shit like that yo. In my experience, these are people that are hiding lies of their own and know they will get exposed. Maybe it's part of being a liberal and not being held to any type of moral compass in your life...you spout off about whatever the F it is you want then cower like a bitch when the bell tolls.

Well, then if that's the case, shut your pussy ass fuckin mouth. Pussies.

Well said.

 

[ScottL]

Don't even lump me into this pathetic loser's camp, Scott.

Sorry that was not deliberate. This is what posters do though during a flame fest Joe, we scroll. We hope for a winner, or a resolution, but rarely do we get one. That's why we end up confusing the combatants.

Let me say one more thing. In all the battles between Vit, Zit, Joe, and I'll throw in Ace there isn't a single one of you who does not respond in kind when treated with respect. And Zit and Vit whether they realize it or not have a common trait - Both have made peace with people they have fought with in here. Not that it always holds. But Zit used to battle with Barman and several others. Vit and Ace speak constructively and civilly in the capping thread. Joe and I have been vicious at times toward each other and yet we respect one another. FLEXIBILITY is the word I'm looking for I guess. Does it REALLY matter to you what another poster wagers? Why he's here so often? How big his house is? Or if he bangs his wife on his yacht or in his RV? Come on already! To continue all of this, even if somebody comes out right and someone else humiliated, to borrow a line from Ace is, "so dumb it's surreal."

 

[vitterd]

Vitterd never gave me any information to verify if the poker winnings claim is true... At that time I was leaning towards believing that he was
telling the truth (a couple years ago). Now, frankly I don't really know either way, and I don't really care.

I'm somewhat embarrassed that I go back and forth with Vit, because it's such a waste of time. I really should be better at ignoring him.

His shtick and bullshit is so annoying: "Joe posted fake tickets" blah blah blah, ad nauseam.

I didn't give you verification information but if you read them again and out any of the same work you did into finding out akp info....you had enough to find out who I am.

And you you should be embarrassed. I'm not sure why I even respond to your nonsense. But it's easy to stop....don't mention me and I don't mention you. I'm capable of it but you are not.

 

[SheriffJoe]

"Joe posts fake tickets!" - poker fraud vtard

(as nauseam in every thread)

Update:

1) Joe has agreed to let Scott L verify.

2) Scott L has accepted Joe's offer.

3) vtard has...well... ointer:

 

[vitterd]

"Joe posted fake tickets" - poker fraud vtard

Let it be known this idiot is the only poster who questions the validity of my tickets - without ANY proof! Let it also be known the same idiot won't walk his talk. Shocker!

As per the norm, he runs his mouth all day and all night, but never - not once! - backs up his bullshit with action. The list of excuses this idiot comes up with is surreal...

"no tax info, you guys are psychos!"
"too little $$$ from Willie!"
"Joe made some huge deposit so he could kick me off!"

And on it goes..

The guy is a BROKE phony chicken shit coward!

Here is the simple question then. Why haven't you accepted any post up bet from me? If I'm broke.....I couldn't post up right?

youre a scumbag liar and scam artist

 

[festeringZit]

Sorry that was not deliberate. This is what posters do though during a flame fest Joe, we scroll. We hope for a winner, or a resolution, but rarely do we get one. That's why we end up confusing the combatants.

Let me say one more thing. In all the battles between Vit, Zit, Joe, and I'll throw in Ace there isn't a single one of you who does not respond in kind when treated with respect. And Zit and Vit whether they realize it or not have a common trait - Both have made peace with people they have fought with in here. Not that it always holds. But Zit used to battle with Barman and several others. Vit and Ace speak constructively and civilly in the capping thread. Joe and I have been vicious at times toward each other and yet we respect one another. FLEXIBILITY is the word I'm looking for I guess. Does it REALLY matter to you what another poster wagers? Why he's here so often? How big his house is? Or if he bangs his wife on his yacht or in his RV? Come on already! To continue all of this, even if somebody comes out right and someone else humiliated, to borrow a line from Ace is, "so dumb it's surreal."

But let's be real Scott. It's one thing to say to someone in here "your political views suck and you are stupid for believing them." It's another to say "you post fake betting tickets in here, and you've been a conman and a scammer in here for a decade."

 

[vitterd]

"Joe posts fake tickets!" - poker fraud vtard

(as nauseam in every thread)

Update:

1) Joe has agreed to let Scott L verify.

2) Scott L has accepted Joe's offer.

3) vtard has...well... ointer:

Well what? I've explained it quite clear. You are a scammer and a con man.

 

[festeringZit]

I didn't give you verification information but if you read them again and out any of the same work you did into finding out akp info....you had enough to find out who I am.

And you you should be embarrassed. I'm not sure why I even respond to your nonsense. But it's easy to stop....don't mention me and I don't mention you. I'm capable of it but you are not.

I wasn't the one who "did all this work to find out akp." All I did was repost something that he posted in another forum as "akphidelt." I had absolutely nothing to do with finding out his real name and outing him in here, nothing.

 

[vitterd]

But let's be real Scott. It's one thing to say to someone in here "your political views suck and you are stupid for believing them." It's another to say "you post fake betting tickets in here, and you've been a conman and a scammer in here for a decade."

This is why you're a piece of shit. Joe calls me every name in the book.....and none of them include " your political views suck". Stop misrepresenting what's going on here.

 

[festeringZit]

This is why you're a piece of shit. Joe calls me every name in the book.....and none of them include " your political views suck". Stop misrepresenting what's going on here.

Frankly, I think saying that someone has been a decade long scammer and conman, and that he posts fake tickets in here is taking it to a level that Joe never has with you. But, I'll defer to the others in here to judge whether or not that is true.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Well what? I've explained it quite clear. You are a scammer and a con man.

How the hell can someone "fake tickets" if a third party is allowed to verify them logging into a sportsbook account???? face)(*^%

You don't have a penny to your name, so you can't back up any of your bullshit.

All you do is run your mouth 24/7 here and never EVER step up and prove a fraction of the bullshit you spew.

Update:

poker fraud vtard still being poker fraud vtard...

 

[vitterd]

Frankly, I think saying that someone has been a decade long scammer and conman, and that he posts fake tickets in here is taking it to a level that Joe never has with you. But, I'll defer to the others in here to judge whether or not that is true.

The guy calls me a fraud, loser, broke, twenty times a day. You can say you don't like the insults but don't say my stuff is on a different level....that's simply false.

 

[SheriffJoe]

This is why you're a piece of shit. Joe calls me every name in the book.....and none of them include " your political views suck". Stop misrepresenting what's going on here.

Stop lying and stalling, and for once in your pathetic lonely life step up and walk your talk.

"Joe posted fake tickets!"

 

[vitterd]

How the hell can someone "fake tickets" if a third party is allowed to verify them logging into a sportsbook account???? face)(*^%

You don't have a penny to your name, so you can't back up any of your bullshit.

All you do is run your mouth 24/7 here and never EVER step up and prove a fraction of the bullshit you spew.

Update:

poker fraud vtard still being poker fraud vtard...

Again, I've offered plenty of bets to you.....you have run from every single one. Even ones where I offered free money. You are a con artist and have been back to your Joe C days.

 

[vitterd]

Stop lying and stalling, and for once in your pathetic lonely life step up and walk your talk.

"Joe posted fake tickets!"

they are fake. Your entire existence is a fraud. That's why you won't bet me heads up.

" Mickey Mouse contests"