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I don't care about "100 days" or presidential polls. I have little faith in Trump but he's the president and I hope his presidency is successful and benefits our nation. Apparently it's time for our House and Senate to go on vacation again and before doing so they are in a hurry, as is Trump to slam this bill through. What's the rush? These people do so little work anyway so why can't they hang around a few more days so everyone can discuss the new legalese written by the lawyers who keep amending this bill?
 

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[h=1]U.S. House passes healthcare bill in big win for Trump[/h]

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U.S. House passes healthcare bill in big win for Trump



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Is this really a win for Trump? I suspect it's a band-aid
on Obamacare and not a repeal and replace. Much like the
spending bill it appears to be another half assed effort
from the House.
 

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BREAKING NEWS: Health care bill passes in House of Representatives as Paul Ryan blasts 'collapsing' Obamacare law – and Democrats taunt the GOP majority with a chorus of 'Na-na, Hey-hey, Goodbye!'


  • House Speaker Paul Ryan has held a vote on the House GOP Obamacare replacement bill Thursday afternoon, and it passed 217-213
  • The result was expected to be a squeaker, but passed with enough votes to send it to the Senate for the next round of haggling
  • Several GOP moderates got on board with the plan Wednesday afternoon, breathing new life into President Trump's second attempt to repeal Obamacare
  • The song 'Na-na, hey-hey, goodbye' was heard rattling loudly through the House chamber as the vote tally was announced
  • It was a taunt from Democrats who believe they will kick out the GOP majority in the 2018 midterm elections as a result of the vote
 

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Is this really a win for Trump? I suspect it's a band-aid
on Obamacare and not a repeal and replace. Much like the
spending bill it appears to be another half assed effort
from the House.

For me it's huge - that extra 5% tax that Obama threw in it fucked me directly - I am so glad they did what they said they were going to do - now let's hope premiums are affordable
 

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For me it's huge - that extra 5% tax that Obama threw in it fucked me directly - I am so glad they did what they said they were going to do - now let's hope premiums are affordable
I'm not knowable of the nitty-gritty of the bill. If it helps you
I'm sure it will help many others in your situation.

So that's a positive however I haven't read anything about creating
competition in the market. What happened to buying across state lines
and setting up buyer pools to lower costs?

Maybe I'm just ignorant but without sweeping changes those premiums aren't
likely to become affordable.

I just find it ludicrous that after 7 years of repeal and replace babble
there was no plan to actually do it. They appear to be making it up as they
go along.
 

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President Donald Trump took a victory lap in the White House Rose Garden on Thursday, saying Obamacare is 'dead' and its GOP-led replacement will bring down consumers' medical insurance premiums and deductibles

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Dozens of Republican House members joined the president on the steps outside the Oval Office an hour after the vote took place at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue
 

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Trump turned to face his fellow Republicans and saluted them like a conductor acknowledging his orchestra

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House Speaker Paul Ryan was the last member to speak before his colleagues voted on Trumpcare 2.0, and the first one to talk after the president took his Rose Garden victory lap
 

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Several key Senate Republicans said they will set aside the narrowly passed House health-care bill and write their own version instead, a sign of how difficult it will be to deliver on seven years of promises to repeal Obamacare.


Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who chairs the Senate health committee, and Roy Blunt of Missouri, a member of GOP leadership, both described the plan, even as the House was celebrating passing its repeal after weeks of back and forth. The decision will likely delay even further the prospect of any repeal bill reaching President Donald Trump’s desk.

This is what happens when a win isn't really a win.
 

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Therapy dogs, cry-ins, play-doh be prepared.

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Loyal opposition: Protesters gathered Thursday in New York City near the USS Intrepid, where the president will speak in the evening
 

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Victorious: Ryan strode to his office in the U.S. Capitol on Thursday after watching a nail-biter vote end with just enough support to pass the AHCA
 

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Scorned: Pelosi warned Republicans that they would 'glow in the dark' because they decided to 'walk the plank' for a manipulative president


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Several key Senate Republicans said they will set aside the narrowly passed House health-care bill and write their own version instead, a sign of how difficult it will be to deliver on seven years of promises to repeal Obamacare.


Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who chairs the Senate health committee, and Roy Blunt of Missouri, a member of GOP leadership, both described the plan, even as the House was celebrating passing its repeal after weeks of back and forth. The decision will likely delay even further the prospect of any repeal bill reaching President Donald Trump’s desk.

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The Senate wants nothing to do with the House's Obamacare repeal bill. (link: [url]http://politi.co/2pegTZ7) politi.co/2pegTZ7[/URL] via @politico
 

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[h=1]Remarks by President Trump on Healthcare Vote in the House of Representatives[/h]
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3:18 P.M. EDT
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Speaker Ryan, Majority Leader McCarthy, Majority Whip Scalise, Chairwoman McMorris Rodgers, Chairman Brady, Chairman Walden, Chairwoman Black, Congressman McArthur, Congressman Meadows, and all the principled members of Congress who are standing with us here today, on behalf of President Donald Trump and the first family, welcome to the White House. (Applause.) And thanks to the leadership of President Donald Trump, welcome to the beginning of the end of Obamacare. (Applause.)
It was March, 2010, seven years ago, Democrats passed a government takeover of healthcare. And at that time, Republicans in Congress promised the American people that law would not stand. Today, thanks to the perseverance, the determination, and the leadership of President Donald Trump, and all the support of those gathered here, we’ve taken a historic first step to repeal and replace Obamacare and finally give the American people the kind of healthcare they deserve. (Applause.)
So, today, with heartfelt gratitude for all he has done to keep his word to the American people, and for all he will do to continue to make America great again, it is my high honor and distinct privilege to introduce to you the President of the United States of America, President Donald Trump. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. (Applause.) That’s the group. Thank you.
Thank you very much. This really is the group. What a great group of people. and they’re not even doing it for the party, they’re doing it for this country -- because we suffered with Obamacare. I went through two years of campaigning, and I’m telling you, no matter where I went, people were suffering so badly with the ravages of Obamacare.
And I will say this, that as far as I’m concerned, your premiums, they’re going to start to come down. We’re going to get this passed through the Senate. I feel so confident. Your deductibles, when it comes to deductibles, they were so ridiculous that nobody got to use their current plan -- this nonexistent plan that I heard so many wonderful things about over the last three or four days. After that, I mean, it’s -- I don’t think you’re going to hear so much. Right now, the insurance companies are fleeing. It’s been a catastrophe. And this is a great plan. I actually think it will get even better. And this is, make no mistake, this is a repeal and replace of Obamacare. Make no mistake about it. Make no mistake. (Applause.)
And I think, most importantly, yes, premiums will be coming down. Yes, deductibles will be coming down. But very importantly, it’s a great plan. And ultimately, that’s what it’s all about.
We knew that wasn’t going to work. I predicted it a long time ago. I said, it’s failing. And now, it’s obvious that it’s failing. It’s dead. It’s essentially dead. If we don’t pay lots of ransom money over to the insurance companies it would die immediately.
So what we have is something very, very incredibly well-crafted. Tell you what, there is a lot of talent standing behind me. An unbelievable amount of talent, that I can tell you. I mean it. (Applause.) And coming from a different world and only being a politician for a short period of time -- how am I doing? Am I doing okay? I’m President. Hey, I’m President. Can you believe it? Right? (Applause.) I don’t know, it’s -- I thought you needed a little bit more time. They always told me, more time. But we didn’t.
But we have an amazing group of people standing behind me. They worked so hard and they worked so long. And when I said, let’s do this, let’s go out, just short little shots for each one of us and let’s say how good this plan is -- we don’t have to talk about this unbelievable victory -- wasn’t it unbelievable? So we don’t have to say it again. But it’s going to be an unbelievable victory, actually, when we get it through the Senate.
And there’s so much spirit there. But I said, let’s go out -- we have a little list of some of the people -- and I think after that list goes, if they don’t talk too long, our first list, we’re going to let some of the other folks just come up and say whatever you want.
But we want to brag about the plan, because this plan really -- uh oh. (Laughter.) Well, we may. (Laughter.) But we’re just going to talk a little bit about the plan, how good it is, some of the great features.
I want to thank Paul Ryan. (Applause.) He has worked so hard. I was joking, I said, you know, Paul, for the last week I’ve been hearing “Paul Ryan doesn’t have it. It’s not working with Paul Ryan. He’s going to get rid of Paul Ryan.” And then today I heard, “Paul Ryan is a genius, he’s come a long way.” (Laughter.) Right?
SPEAKER RYAN: I’ll take whatever.
THE PRESIDENT: The groups have all come together. We have the Tuesday Group -- we have so many groups. We have the Freedom Caucus. We have -- and they’re all great people. But we have a lot of groups. But they all came together. Really, Paul, I’d say in the last three, four days -- especially in the last day. I see Mark and I see Kevin, I see so many people -- Jim.
We just have developed a bond. This has really brought the Republican Party together, as much as we’ve come up with a really incredible healthcare plan. This has brought the Republican Party together. We’re going to get this finished, and then we’re going -- as you know we put our tax plan in, it’s a massive tax cut, the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. I used to say the biggest since Ronald Reagan. Now, it’s bigger than that. Also, pure tax reform. So we’re going to get that done next.
And this really helps it. A lot of people said, how come you kept pushing healthcare, knowing how tough it is? Don’t forget, Obamacare took 17 months. Hillary Clinton tried so hard -- really valiantly, in all fairness, to get healthcare through. Didn’t happen. We’ve really been doing this for eight weeks, if you think about it. And this is a real plan. This is a great plan. And we had no support from the other party.
So I just want to introduce somebody to say a few words who really has been I think treated very unfairly, but it no longer matters because we won and we’re going to finish it off. And we’re going to go on with a lot of other things, and we are going to have a tremendous four years and maybe, even more importantly, we’re going to have a tremendous eight years. But we’re going to start off with just a great first year.
And, Paul Ryan, come up and say a few words. Congratulations on a job well done. (Applause.)
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3:26 P.M. EDT



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[h=1]House Advances American Health Care Act[/h]
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“I want to have a great healthcare bill and plan – and we will. It will happen.”- President Donald J. Trump
OBAMACARE IS COLLAPSING: Across the country, Obamacare is failing the American people, delivering high costs, few options, and broken promises.

  • Despite false promises of lowering healthcare costs for all Americans, under Obamacare, real healthcare has become unaffordable as premiums and deductibles have spiraled out of control.
    • Under Obamacare, premiums have risen by over 40 percent on average, and over 100 percent in some places.
      • The Department of Health and Human Services estimated that 8.4 million Americans would see a sharp rise in premiums this year.
      • Six states on the Federal Obamacare exchange saw premiums rise by over 50 percent.
    • The two most popular Obamacare health plans had deductibles equivalent to 10 percent and 6 percent of the American household’s median income.
    • In 2016 alone, average individual premiums went up by 25 percent. Average deductibles increased in 41 states, with 17 of them facing double digit rate increases.
  • Americans across the country have seen their health insurance choices collapse under Obamacare, leaving an increasing number with only one option.
    • In 2017, five states have only one insurer on the Obamacare marketplace and nearly a third of all counties have only one insurer.
      • According to the McKinsey Center, the number of eligible Americans with only one insurer to choose from increased from 2 percent in 2016 to 18 percent in 2017.
    • The number of insurers on the Obamacare marketplace fell by 28 percent between 2016 and 2017.
  • With high costs and few options, it is no surprise that Americans are fleeing Obamacare.
    • Enrollment fell by 500,000 people in 2017 compared to 2016, and enrollment is millions of people below what was initially estimated.
    • In 2016, nearly 20 million people opted out of Obamacare all together, with 6.5 million forced to pay the mandate penalty.
  • Obamacare was sold to the American people with rosy promises that have been routinely broken.
    • Americans were promised Obamacare would bring down healthcare costs, but instead Americans continue their premiums skyrocket.
    • President Obama was forced to apologize to Americans for promising that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
      • President Obama’s false promise was named 2013’s “lie of the year.”
    • Americans were promised Obamacare would increase competition among insurance companies, but more and more are leaving the marketplace.
    • President Obama promised the middle class wouldn’t see their taxes raised “by a single dime,” but the Joint Committee on Taxation found a $377 billion tax hike.
REPEALING AND REPLACING: President Donald J. Trump supports the American Health Care Act (AHCA), which will remove Obamacare’s burden and put in place a responsible replacement.

  • The AHCA protects the most vulnerable Americans, including those with pre-existing conditions.
    • Nobody can be denied coverage on the basis of a pre-existing condition and the bill provides over $120 billion for states to keep those plans affordable.
    • $8 billion is specifically directed to states that waive certain Obamacare rules to ensure plans stay affordable for those with pre-existing conditions.
    • Insurance companies are banned from increasing premiums or turning away patients from renewing their plans simply because they are sick
    • $79 billion is being restored to hospitals who provide a high proportion of care to the most vulnerable, including those on Medicaid and Medicare.
    • $100 billion is being provided to states to help low-income Americans access affordable health care.
    • $15 billion is being provided for the care of maternity, newborn, mental health, and substance abuse.
    • $8 billion is being provided to Americans who see changes in premiums due to their state’s decision to seek a waiver for some community ratings.
    • Medicaid financing is reformed to send money to states based on its population, prioritizing funding for the most vulnerable and economic downturns.
      • States will have the option of both a block grant and work requirements for certain populations.
  • The AHCA reduces costs of health care to Americans, while providing greater choice and flexibility.
    • Middle and low income Americans will receive monthly, advanceable, and refundable tax credits to help pay for healthcare premiums.
      • Tax credits will range from $2,000 to $14,000 a year and will adjust to make sure older Americans receive proper support.
    • Americans will have expanded access to health savings accounts (HSAs) by nearly doubling the maximum allowed tax-deductible contribution.
      • In 2017, an individual American would be able to deduct $6,550 in contributions to an HAS.
    • One-size-fits-all mandates will be eliminated to free States to create marketplaces that promote innovation and competition.
    • Job-based health insurance is preserved and relief is provided from the current law’s “Cadillac tax.”
  • AHCA will reduce Federal spending while lowering taxes for Americans.
    • The Federal deficit will be reduced as major entitlement reform capping Medicaid spending will save taxpayers nearly $840 billion.
    • Americans, including middle-income and small business owners, will see nearly $1 trillion in tax relief.
A PROMISE TO AMERICA: President Trump Has repeatedly said he will repeal the collapsing Obamacare with real healthcare reform that will benefit all Americans.

  • March 24, 2017, President Trump: “I want to have a great healthcare bill and plan – and we will. It will happen.”
  • March 24, 2017, President Trump: Obamacare is “exploding right now” and “almost all states have big problems.”
  • October 9, 2017, Mr. Trump: “We have to repeal it and replace it with something absolutely less expensive. And something that works, where your plan can actually be tailored.”
  • October 9, 2017, Mr. Trump: “Obamacare is a disaster. You know it, we all know it.”



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