Tied 1-1 In The Series Anyone Want Miami At +240?

[Avocado33]

But they aren't. My point was if the league is so watered down why is nothing expected fron you? Every season?

As a 1 seed there aren't a serious team and this year they weren't a serious team. Just by the fact Spo nor Butler lose anything off their reps if they lose in 5 to Milwaukee. Unless u disagree AV?

I guess we'll never know what it looks like for Miami if they get easily beaten by Milwaukee in Round 1 or what the damage is reputation wise. I doubt Spo and Butler take major hits or anything like that just given quite a bit of the rough patches this year just weren't their fault, but I think you see some re-shuffling of their roster a bit.

This may seem like speaking after the fact, but I thought Bucks were very unlucky that Heat lost to Hawks in that play-in game. I thought Milwaukee would beat Miami, but it was going to be a taxing series. I bring this up in saying that I just didn't see many scenarios this season where Miami was blasted in the first round like maybe others did.

 

[crudebar]

I guess we'll never know what it looks like for Miami if they get easily beaten by Milwaukee in Round 1 or what the damage is reputation wise. I doubt Spo and Butler take major hits or anything like that just given quite a bit of the rough patches this year just weren't their fault, but I think you see some re-shuffling of their roster a bit.

This may seem like speaking after the fact, but I thought Bucks were very unlucky that Heat lost to Hawks in that play-in game. I thought Milwaukee would beat Miami, but it was going to be a taxing series. I bring this up in saying that I just didn't see many scenarios this season where Miami was blasted in the first round like maybe others did.

Hawks suck obviously. Chicago was even better than them.

You can't have a somewhat midget guard that plays no defense as ur leader.

We completely agree here. Though I think of the 4 play-in teams Toronto scared me the most....though I didn't think them nor miami would win a best of 7, obviously.

 

[Avocado33]

This is why i don't get why few get upset when I say this is real 8 seed. They are...

They went from a 1 seed(that nobody respected) and fell to an 8 seed and nobody blinked an eye. A normal fall like this in the NBA with no real play movement and the coach and star player or talked about in firings and trades.

Everyone understood the 1 seed was the aberration not the 8 seed.

I think both seeds are an aberration of sorts.

I think we could all look at Miami last year and say they are a typical 1 seed than isn't the best team in the conference. I mean, those aren't THAT uncommon.....look at the Cavs in LeBron's second stint. They were the best team in the conference, made the Finals 4 straight years, but only had the 1 seed once in those 4 years I believe. I think Miami was perceived as the 3rd best team in the conference behind a healthy Bucks team and the Celtics

This season, I think you could make a similar argument. I think at the absolute worst they are the 4th best team in the conference, and I think that's a stretch. I think they are clearly better than Philly, though some may disagree with that. Point being, they are not really an 8 seed. Like I'm a Cavs fan, and I can tell you we woulda been screwed playing the Heat.

 

[crudebar]

If Toronto had done this run to Finals as an 8 seed---I could get my mind around that...That is a talented team that underachievied all season.

Which got their coach fired. Spo loses to Chicago and no question he is still in Miami.

 

[Avocado33]

Hawks suck obviously. Chicago was even better than them.

That's the thing though......when you see Boston struggle with them in Round 1, that's a pretty big hint that the Celtics are not going to destroy anyone. Then they took 7 to beat the Sixers, who have some good individual talent but clearly have issues

So asking Miami, who is flawed, to beat a team like that is not asking as much as people believe

Maybe that's slightly off topic, but more just speaking to the point that there are no great teams

 

[crudebar]

I think both seeds are an aberration of sorts.

I think we could all look at Miami last year and say they are a typical 1 seed than isn't the best team in the conference. I mean, those aren't THAT uncommon.....look at the Cavs in LeBron's second stint. They were the best team in the conference, made the Finals 4 straight years, but only had the 1 seed once in those 4 years I believe. I think Miami was perceived as the 3rd best team in the conference behind a healthy Bucks team and the Celtics

This season, I think you could make a similar argument. I think at the absolute worst they are the 4th best team in the conference, and I think that's a stretch. I think they are clearly better than Philly, though some may disagree with that. Point being, they are not really an 8 seed. Like I'm a Cavs fan, and I can tell you we woulda been screwed playing the Heat.

Maybe I am not remembering correctly. But LeBron took A LOT of shit not getting to the Finals as a 1 seed.

 

[Avocado33]

If Toronto had done this run to Finals as an 8 seed---I could get my mind around that...That is a talented team that underachievied all season.

It would have been the year to

I just think Miami kinda "ran bad" through a lot of the regular season too. Duncan shot like 32% from 3 this year, but he's the best "pure" 3-point shooter on the floor any time he's out there. Just one example

They shot bad during the regular season, after being like #1 in 3-point percentage the previous year (or close to).

 

[crudebar]

That's the thing though......when you see Boston struggle with them in Round 1, that's a pretty big hint that the Celtics are not going to destroy anyone. Then they took 7 to beat the Sixers, who have some good individual talent but clearly have issues

So asking Miami, who is flawed, to beat a team like that is not asking as much as people believe

Maybe that's slightly off topic, but more just speaking to the point that there are no great teams

We agree here. Thats why I didn't bet Boston nor gave Miami overwhelming amount of credit for beating them. Hell Boston allowed Harden to look like superman in 2 PLAY-OFF games! Not easy to do.

 

[Avocado33]

Maybe I am not remembering correctly. But LeBron took A LOT of shit not getting to the Finals as a 1 seed.

Yep.

Cavs won like 60+ games two years in a row and couldn't get to Finals. That's when LeBron left and then Cavs proceed to be the worst team in the NBA

That was the last time the Celtics could beat LeBron lol

 

[crudebar]

It would have been the year to

I just think Miami kinda "ran bad" through a lot of the regular season too. Duncan shot like 32% from 3 this year, but he's the best "pure" 3-point shooter on the floor any time he's out there. Just one example

They shot bad during the regular season, after being like #1 in 3-point percentage the previous year (or close to).

To say Duncan Robinson is going to help you get over the hump though could be viewed as pretty laughable.

It would be like the Bucks counting on Grayson Allen to get them there...

Sure his hot shooting could help ur team lose in 5 games instead of 4.

 

[skoda]

Talking watered down league nba talk is adding 2 teams (Seattle/Vegas) any of the players on any of the teams can have a streak hot or cold. Interesting nobody has mentioned Butler stepping out of bounds under basket before passing to whoever outside and he makes a 3 pointer… Maybe it wasn’t meant to be?

 

[crudebar]

I'll continue to insist this is the greatest and must unexplainable run i have ever seen in US sports.

This team has a middle of a pack star and a middle of pack supporting cast and in the NBA Finals.

If Jimmy can beat the team that easly beat a healthy LeBron and Durant(whom both had better #2s and supporting cast)---well shake that man's hand.

 

[crudebar]

Once again I could have gotten behind Toronto. That team has in my opinion one of the most talented starting 5 in the league and they all can bring different things to the table. Why i was hesitate on Nick Nurse as a coach that couldn't even get this bunch to the 8 seed

 

[five-head]

What's interesting is Miami has undrafted players and Denver has lottery players. With that being said the Miami roster has over 250 more playoffs games of experience than does the Denver roster

 

[Avocado33]

What's interesting is Miami has undrafted players and Denver has lottery players. With that being said the Miami roster has over 250 more playoffs games of experience than does the Denver roster

Heat Culture

 

[Avocado33]

To say Duncan Robinson is going to help you get over the hump though could be viewed as pretty laughable.

It would be like the Bucks counting on Grayson Allen to get them there...

Sure his hot shooting could help ur team lose in 5 games instead of 4.

Point taken (though Duncan’s shooting carries more gravity than Allen’s)

 

[five-head]

I still think Denver win this in 6 games or less and I think Denver wins game 3. The Heat won't shoot almost 50% from 3 back to back games. That also favors the under

 

[Avocado33]

I still think Denver win this in 6 games or less and I think Denver wins game 3. The Heat won't shoot almost 50% from 3 back to back games. That also favors the under

Why won’t they shoot almost 50% from 3?

 

[five-head]

Why won’t they shoot almost 50% from 3?

Is that a serious question? Regression with a team that shot about 36% this season. No team can consistently keep that pace game to game.

 

[Avocado33]

Is that a serious question? Regression with a team that shot about 36% this season. No team can consistently keep that pace game to game.

Numbers like that don’t “regress” in a single game though

They could shoot 60% or 20% tomorrow. Wouldn’t be shocked by either