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Yeah. Pop is as good as there is. It hurts the game for sure.

I understand the thinking behind the theory of millionaires should be able to make free throws. I just see them at a severe genetic disadvantage in that aspect. It's not like shaq can go to Larry bird and say teach me to shoot better at free throw line. It's like George Constanta said " it's like asking Pavarotti, teach me to sing like you"

Theres no disadvantage man. If there was one due to having big hands and their only goal was the make the free throw then theyd do it underhand. Dont change the rule. Learn to make free throws
 

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Theres no disadvantage man. If there was one due to having big hands and their only goal was the make the free throw then theyd do it underhand. Dont change the rule. Learn to make free throws
Forgive me if i side with the players who have experienced this and the experts who say the same thing I do. It's pretty common knowledge stuff for many years.
 

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Forgive me if i side with the players who have experienced this and the experts who say the same thing I do. It's pretty common knowledge stuff for many years.

Its a common excuse. Shooting a tennis ball? Bit of a stretch. They are shooting line drives at the rim. What does the size of their hands have to do with that?
 

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Vitterd has some valid points, hand size and height play major factors in shooting. This message board is probably filled with 5'11 white guys with normal size hands, who just assume because it's easy for them to make free throws that a 7 foot nba player should be able to make them just as easily.

Take Shaq for example, he was just not a good shooter, no matter how much he worked on it, and no matter who coached and taught him. You know he had a great work ethic, every other aspect within his control he excelled, like footwork and passing, etc. You think he didn't want to hit free throws, he probably practiced more free throws then anyone, but it just wasn't going to help much.

There is a reason that almost all the tops free throw shooters are smaller players, despite the fact they get to the line the least and probably practice it the least as well.
 

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Shaq did not even have correct form to shoot the damn ball stop making excuses for these idiots. Deandre actually will be able to shoot them eventually you can see he actually practices. Hes not using his hand size as an excuse
 

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Shaq did not even have correct form to shoot the damn ball stop making excuses for these idiots. Deandre actually will be able to shoot them eventually you can see he actually practices. Hes not using his hand size as an excuse

it is a pretty simple thing. Shaq and these guys brought in expert free throw shooters for help. Practiced all the time. They knew that more points is more money. But it couldn't help. You should be able to see the reason for this. Deandre and shaq practiced free throws more than anyone on the team.....just too tough because of hand size.
 

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it is a pretty simple thing. Shaq and these guys brought in expert free throw shooters for help. Practiced all the time. They knew that more points is more money. But it couldn't help. You should be able to see the reason for this. Deandre and shaq practiced free throws more than anyone on the team.....just too tough because of hand size.

Why didnt they shoot it underhand if the size of their hands is why they couldent make them the traditional way? Pull your head out of your ass man.
 
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I gotta think some of it is mental too, you see some of these guys standing there with millions watching on TV, and possibly the game on the line, and the last place they
want to be is on the line shooting a free-throw.
 

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comparing shaq to DJ? Shaq shot over 50% in his career and usually made them when they mattered. You can live with a player going 1/2 on average from the line as nothing is wrong with getting 1 point per possession. DJ is shooting something like 41% from the line and is a much worse free throw shooter. With DJ's free throw shooting he has no business being on the field in the 4th quarter as with his shooting no lead is safe. I remember them blowing a 10+ point lead with 4 minutes to go in the regular season to Portland cuz DJ went 0/6 from the line. When free throw shooting costs you a game in the playoffs its very difficult to recover from it and the Clippers don't have the talent to do so. Clippers are the only team in the league right now that would likely offer DJ a max contract as he has no offensive game and needs a top notch pass first point guard to score.
 

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I gotta think some of it is mental too, you see some of these guys standing there with millions watching on TV, and possibly the game on the line, and the last place they
want to be is on the line shooting a free-throw.

Id bet in practice these guys shoot a hell of a lot better than 50% from the line too. Vit is just way out of touch and likes giving people excuses for not being able to do their job
 

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Id bet in practice these guys shoot a hell of a lot better than 50% from the line too. Vit is just way out of touch and likes giving people excuses for not being able to do their job
Oh my goodness. You do know there is a major difference in shooting in practice and in the games right?

It isn an excuse it is just the facts that people in basketball know.

Have you ever played basketball on any level?
 
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Forgive me if i side with the players who have experienced this and the experts who say the same thing I do. It's pretty common knowledge stuff for many years.

You have a study to back this up? I've only seen stuff that says there is no evidence that hand size is an issue.

My opinion, and this is strictly my opinion, would be that a lot of these guys develop poor form in their younger years (grade school through high school). When you're 10x more athletic and 6 inches taller than every other guy on the floor you can get by without a lot of the fundamentals. It's a lot harder to go back and fix your stroke after 6 years of poor form than it is to learn good form from day 1.
 

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I gotta think some of it is mental too, you see some of these guys standing there with millions watching on TV, and possibly the game on the line, and the last place they
want to be is on the line shooting a free-throw.
No doubt. Other factors contribute to it but it is not a coincidence that majority of poor free throw shooters are 7 footers. And trust me....it isn't because they don't practice them enough.
 

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During last nights mavs / rockets game, Chris webber went into detail about how the size of the hands is bs. He said these guys just don't practice free throws. He mentioned how he hired a guy and went to the gym 2x a day to shoot free throws only, because he was embarrassed how bad he was. He said he even brought the trainer with him for out of town weddings just so he wouldn't miss a practice. TNT then showed a statistic of biggest free throw percentage turnaround from the players first season to their second and Webber was 2 on that list.
 

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Oh my goodness. You do know there is a major difference in shooting in practice and in the games right?

It isn an excuse it is just the facts that people in basketball know.

Have you ever played basketball on any level?

There is a difference in shooting free throws at practice and shooting free throws in a game???? Do their hands get bigger during the game?
 

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You have a study to back this up? I've only seen stuff that says there is no evidence that hand size is an issue.
Don't know if there is an actual study on it but was just reading opinions on it. Again it isn't the only factor but certainly a factor.

it really is common sense though in my opinion.
 

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During last nights mavs / rockets game, Chris webber went into detail about how the size of the hands is bs. He said these guys just don't practice free throws. He mentioned how he hired a guy and went to the gym 2x a day to shoot free throws only, because he was embarrassed how bad he was. He said he even brought the trainer with him for out of town weddings just so he wouldn't miss a practice. TNT then showed a statistic of biggest free throw percentage turnaround from the players first season to their second and Webber was 2 on that list.

Vit has no clue what hes talking about.
 

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There is a difference in shooting free throws at practice and shooting free throws in a game???? Do their hands get bigger during the game?
Dude..... Seriously you gotta know this. In practice you are standing around most times. In a game you are fatigued and under pressure. Many different factors.
 
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Don't know if there is an actual study on it but was just reading opinions on it. Again it isn't the only factor but certainly a factor.

it really is common sense though in my opinion.

added my opinion above. I'm not saying it's not a factor just don't think it's as big of a factor as shaq and others would like it to be.
 

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