There is a case where other people's play will affect your EV. If one is counting cards, and the count goes way positive, you don't want people eating up cards by
playing extra hands, and splitting when they shouldn't. That's really the only case where someone else's play affects your expected value.
Hit/Stay is something most people have down.
It is funny how few people will surrender though. As if it is just too much of a pussy move to do. When you surrender, people at the table even make comments like "Oh you must be French blah blah"
If you aren't counting cards then the game is rigged, the goal is just to make it as little rigged as possible.
It is funny how few people will surrender though. As if it is just too much of a pussy move to do. When you surrender, people at the table even make comments like "Oh you must be French blah blah"
If you aren't counting cards then the game is rigged, the goal is just to make it as little rigged as possible.
Now that I think of it, I don't think anyone has ever berated or made a snide comment but what has happened is I've asked people at the table "Why don't you surrender" or "You should surrender in that spot"
And they will say something to that effect. People just don't do it. I think a lot of people don't even know you can.
Y'all ever heard of this 21+3 or Top 3 blackjack side wager? I stay away from those like the plague but some guy at my table tonight bought in for 100 pounds, and was putting 5 on his hand but 20 on the top 3. He hit trips once, a straight flush once, and perfect trips once. He literally made over 8000 GBP (like 13k US) in one shoe.
Did anyone used to play those bonus grinding blackjack sites? It would be like you deposit $500, get $200 free, have to play 5k worth of blackjack. 5k at 1% house edge is $50, so your EV if you do everything right is $150. Just need to play for $1-2 a hand to decrease variance.
I remember one would give you a $100 bonus every month. I didn't have the patience to grind the bonus at $1 so I'd play for 2 per hand. See like 300 hands an hour.
William Hill was 1 of the sites that would do it. These sites were giving away money.
This was maybe like 10 years ago.
I remember one would give you a $100 bonus every month. I didn't have the patience to grind the bonus at $1 so I'd play for 2 per hand. See like 300 hands an hour.
William Hill was 1 of the sites that would do it. These sites were giving away money.
This was maybe like 10 years ago.
Did you play for $1 or 2? I would always play for $2 to speed it up.
There was $ to be made definitely but a lot you could only play 1 time. Unless you got multiple accounts.
I only remember a few were recurring but this was like 2006 when I tried them. The heydey was probably like '99-04, just a matter of feeling secure about the site. A few of the sites I had to call for withdrawals and it was such low budget customer service.
There was $ to be made definitely but a lot you could only play 1 time. Unless you got multiple accounts.
I only remember a few were recurring but this was like 2006 when I tried them. The heydey was probably like '99-04, just a matter of feeling secure about the site. A few of the sites I had to call for withdrawals and it was such low budget customer service.
There were actually a few sites known to certain +EV players, that offered a +EV blackjack game. Early surrender on single deck.
I went on a rush at one of the sites and took them for $30 grand, after only depositing $1K. True story. And, it could have
been $10K more, I was up closer to $40K at one point.
Unified Gaming was the software.
They talk about it here;
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/21921-blackjack-game-with-0-75-player-advantage/6/
For sites that didn't carry over required rollover, it was/is actually better to bet huge. Your variance would be higher, but it also increases your EV as you are betting less money with a house edge. It's counter-intuitive, but true. People in the private forums where we would talk about these deals would bet like $100 a hand, because they didn't want to spend hours playing the rollover requirements, and some of these people had lots of multiple accounts that they were doing. I know people that made multiple millions believe it or not, at online bonus hunting. They'd have hired staff to play through all the accounts they had...
Yeah I remember there was one site that it was $100 every month and I'd keep playing but I got bored with it. So eventually I'd just start betting $20-30 off the bat to try to be done with it in 15 minutes rather than 2 hours.
Did you ever have a site tell you to play more? This is so long ago but I think I remember a site telling me to play more because it was for "recreational players"
