THE TRUTH BEHIND DIAMOND SPORTS

TruthBeTold85 · Jun 4, 2003

Good for you DSIUser....here's hoping you can afford to lose what they are holding

I worked there until last Monday when they fired the employees and snuck away during the middle of the night.

I had to deal with some of the customer who's accounts were suspended when they tried to place bets. I know for a fact that they are holding funds, extremely slow paying and not paying many customers.

You go right on believing what they use to be....and start holding your breath and crossing your fingers that you'll get your money, when you finally wake up and realize what they have become!

SPIVE · Jun 4, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I usually surf theprescription without posting to read peoples opinion on the baseball, nba matches etc.

But, i have been using DSI for quite a long time, and i can say that they are the most reputable sportsbook available.

Always quick responses to e-mails, withdrawal requests etc..

Great company, and i will not move from them, i trust their every word.

You Go DSI! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been surfin' here merely reading opinions on the baseball, nba matches etc. and just felt compelled to make your first post a DSI promotional?

Wow...they really do come out of the woodwork when there's a hint of trouble.

Little do they know that such a post actually confirms the perceived DSI troubles are likely much deeper than originally suspected.

Pathetically transparent.

max1234 · Jun 4, 2003

Ok, I'll bite. What have they become? And I'm still not seeing the slow or no pay posts either here or at MW.

PS... I don't have an account there, I don't know Joey and I have no financial interest in the place, before you ask.

DSIuser · Jun 4, 2003

What are you implying?

I have always had quick replies from George Lakatos, Aaron, Jay etc..

If you want you can get the admin to check my IP, i'm from Australia so i'm not a employee or anything of the sort.

Dont you have anything better to do then bash legit sportsbooks?

Go do something useful with your life.

The reason i posted is i felt they deserve some praise, and certainly after i see you people slagging off at them without any evidence.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SPIVE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I usually surf theprescription without posting to read peoples opinion on the baseball, nba matches etc.

But, i have been using DSI for quite a long time, and i can say that they are the most reputable sportsbook available.

Always quick responses to e-mails, withdrawal requests etc..

Great company, and i will not move from them, i trust their every word.

You Go DSI! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been surfin' here merely reading opinions on the baseball, nba matches etc. and just felt compelled to make your first post a DSI promotional?

Wow...they really do come out of the woodwork when there's a hint of trouble.

Little do they know that such a post actually confirms the perceived DSI troubles are likely much deeper than originally suspected.

Pathetically transparent.

TTinCO · Jun 4, 2003

DSIuser, don't take it personal. If you read enough here & across the street, you know how many "1 post wonders" show up.

It's rare for someone to show up out of the blue and back a book. There really isn't much that you can do about it without an established "history". Yeah, it's stupid-but probably 25%+ of the posters here & MW are clerks at books.....

SPIVE · Jun 4, 2003

I am implying that regardless of what your post may be suggesting e.g. “the most reputable sports book available,” recent actions by DSI indicate financial issues which could reflect an undue risk to punters funds…including YOURS!

As such, I found your first post potentially deceiving because it implies your opinion is based upon DSI’s historical performance…NOT their future performance potential, which is being questioned due to recent actions.

My objective, is to warn potential punters that DSI has changed, in that, assurance of their future performance may not be equated to what has been previously experienced. Thus, I am not questioning DSI’s past performance, but rather their future potential.

No one really knows (YOU or I) what DSI’s future will be, but their ACTIONS have indicated a concern all here should heed to, particularly those whose funds are currently being held by DSI.

I have made inquiries here regarding their current business status, which have to date, gone unanswered.

You may think warning others here BEFORE a problem is actually realized is useless…but a warning does little good if posters (such as yourself) believe that DSI business operations WILL continue to be the SAME in the future as they were in the past…only to see additional problems soon occur which offer no relieve to the unsuspecting punter.

As such, my recommendation to DSI punters (such as yourself), based upon the recent actions of DSI, is to do exactly the same as DSI has done…”downsize” your funds currently being held by them. Do you believe such to be unreasonable or a bashing of DSI?

Many Bookmakers have had a "rosy past" before folding...don't let the past deceive you into believing that the future will be the same regarding DSI.

Do you NOT understand?

DSIuser · Jun 4, 2003

Ok, i understand.

I will try to withdraw a percentage of my account now.

I will report here, lets see how it goes.

TTinCO · Jun 4, 2003

Spive, despite your recent tendency to be a little irrational, that was a very well written and fair assessment of this situation as it appears.

If I had a wad of $$$ there, I probably wouldn't wait around to "make sure" all was well.

SPIVE · Jun 4, 2003

I am not afraid to be wrong...or speak my mind, with the intent of helping others as well as teaching and learning from them.

I have previously stated that I view this game much in the same way as I do the equity markets.

As such, I see DSI as a "down-grade," based upon their recent actions.

I have NO position in DSI or will I acquire one...but I do know others working with their agents...and have warned them as well.

What will happen with DSI is unknown (even by them, let alone the “insiders” residing upon this forum)…but trend cautiously and do not put yourself in a financial position, which could be devastating if DSI ultimately fails.

Note: With regard to equities lingo, a down-grade is an insider’s term meaning sell.

SUPREMEBEING · Jun 5, 2003

Hey SPIVE,
Why are you so bitter? About Costa Rica in particular, but also about life in general?

Are you just one of those Gringo LOSERS who came down to CR AND STILL COULDN'T GET LAID? EVEN HERE?

BS · Jun 5, 2003

As an ex employee of DSI I can tell you that whatever you are being told is BULL SHIT. None of us were paid in full, NOT ONE OF US. Maybe those of us who worked for the company don't matter as long as the book is up but if they would screw the people that worked with them and for them, helping their business run smoothly why wouldn't they screw anyone else. As for Robbie, out of the 4 years I spent in DSI I can say the only person who ever kept his word was Robbie, he would be the last person to screw us. I guess all I can say is that 99% of us were fired, without notice, and not fully paid by the company. That is the truth.

SPIVE · Jun 5, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> None of us were paid in full, NOT ONE OF US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about others here, but if a company is compelled to act in a manner which results in not fully paying their employees by having them submit a signed waiver legally relieving them of such...why would a punter feel compelled to do business with them, particularly when there are many other alternatives?

K-mart pulled a similar trick upon their managers’ years ago. They wanted to reduce costs (an indication of financial concerns), so they attacked their regional/divisional managers. The people holding these positions had moved their way up through the company over the years. As such, they were earning a pay-rate, which was associated with long-term loyal service.

In order for K-mart to resolve a perceived costly salary issue of their managers, they began giving them unattainable goals, making them work many more additional hours in an attempt to achieve these goals, which were design to fail them. When the managers failed, they used the failure as a reason for termination, achieving the company goal of replacing their managers, with less costly labor.

When this occurred, I refused to shop at K-mart, based upon employee treatment principals initiated upon an underlying financial concern displayed by such actions. Well, it was not too many years later when K-mart closed many stores (which they continue to do), while filing for protection under bankruptcy laws.

K-mart is one example of a corporation, which has implemented "down-sizing" techniques as well as unethical measures in terminating employees in an effort to reduce costs, before ultimately falling back upon US bankruptcy laws.

DSI is merely taking actions similar to what K-mart has...which historically has not resulted in a successful future.

Draw your own conclusions, after all, it is your money…but as with K-mart, this consumer refuses to invest with companies, which commit such acts.

I believe DSI is posed to eventually merge with CRIS. (You heard it here first)

corey · Jun 5, 2003

I heard Kmart was screwing their shareholders over too.

SPIVE · Jun 5, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I heard Kmart was screwing their shareholders over too. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This occurs when a company files for bankruptcy, not to mention pension benefits to former employees.

Perhaps, I am just a shrewd investor who remains puzzled why others continue to cater to businesses (K-mart/DSI), which have obvious management as well as financial troubles, when there are so many BETTER alternatives available.

All too often, such punters, eventually coming in here crying they were stiffed looking for a bailout.

hamneggs · Jun 5, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>SPIVE posted June 05, 2003 04:08 PM
Certifiably Crazy
I believe DSI is posed to eventually merge with CRIS. (You heard it here first)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SPIVE.....

I hope that you don't think of yourself as an <einstein> if this does happen. After all, they just moved into the same building.

I can see the <insider> pulling up this thread next year

cheers, ham

JoeyC · Jun 5, 2003

BS:

Then you should go to work for Robbie..

DSIuser · Jun 8, 2003

Just posting a follow up,

I have received payment in full from diamond sports international via neteller.

Very quick indeed, only took 1 hour!

Its really sad that all the rumours here made me withdraw, but i will use betcris for the upcoming 6 months and will go back to betdsi as my prefered book, i just want to see if they are still running by then.

Keep up the good job DSI - i am sorry for doubting you.

EveryGamblersDream · Jun 8, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SPIVE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I heard Kmart was screwing their shareholders over too. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This occurs when a company files for bankruptcy, not to mention pension benefits to former employees.

Perhaps, I am just a shrewd investor who remains puzzled why others continue to cater to businesses (K-mart/DSI), which have obvious management as well as financial troubles, when there are so many BETTER alternatives available.

All too often, such punters, eventually coming in here crying they were stiffed looking for a bailout.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your attempts at coming off as a know it all of this industry is pathetic. I'd find something else to do if I were you.

BS · Jun 13, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joey C:
BS:

Then you should go to work for Robbie..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

-Slim- · Jun 13, 2003

"A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself and for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love, and in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest form of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal in satisfying his vices. And it all comes from lying-to others and to yourself."

Fyodor Dostoyevsky