I honestly can't believe you are serious with your comments about the Christian Crusades. You must be yanking my chain. Seriously, you have no basis in reality to make such an outrageous statement.
Let's make this really clear, you're saying that we are our allies went to war in Afghanistan and Iran in the name of the Bible and Jesus Christ?
WTF?
This has got to be a level? So you think our present military conflicts are pretty much religious crusades brought out by our christian presidents?
You must not think the US is a noble nation at all to think we would carryout religious atrocities. Do you think America is evil? For a state-sponsored war to be considered a religious crusade you must think we're trying to exterminate the world of muslims.
I don't believe it was a concerted organized effort to go to war in the name of the Bible and Jesus Christ. That is too literal. I believe George Bush's deep religious convictions lead him to believe he had a religious obligation to take care of terrorists and that they were all Muslim.
But we're getting away from my original point. That is that I don't believe we should criticize those who make disparaging remarks about Christians or Jews just because we don't hear as many stories about them committing atrocities. When I was in Dubai the Muslim media vilified Christians and Jews but not Muslims.
I guess it boils down to the majority dictating what should be criticized.
Many Muslism hate the people caz they do not engage Allah! Many Muslism will kill Christians and Jews as a result caz, that be how they roll! America needs to do something about dat imo! I know what I would if i were President of the USA! Rock it out!
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George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
And you choose to believe this lone Palestinian politician negotiator over the President and his spokesman who have always said this quote was a complete lie?
Oh, and the other people present said it was a lie too.
Yawn.
Both the White House and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who was also present at the meeting, denies that Bush ever made such a statement.[2][3][4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabil_Shaath
And yet the Israeli paper Haaretz carried a transcript of it.
Again you are deflecting and dismissive. You call me deluded and yet I bring up a reference to what I am talking about. I respect your right to discuss the accuracy of the article but I don't respect your statement that I am deluded simply because you can't remember any prior references.
Again, my original point was that if someone were to start a thread like this about the atrocities other religions commit they would face stark criticism.
As well they should face stark criticism, as there is no other major religion in the
world that causes the atrocities in the world that Islam does - and the key
difference, that I keep repeating, is that their "holy book" tells them to
kill the infidels, and their prophet was a blood-thirsty murderer (as well as
a pedophile).
No other religion has people strapping on suicide vests on woman and
children in order to kill as many people as possible.
No other religion rapes and subjugates their women the way Islam does.
Am I saying that all Muslims are terrorists? But a very high % of
terrorists are Muslims.
No one in here agrees with you that we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan
because of Christianity and/or the Bible.
[ Nice friendly Muslims murder the US Ambassador to Libya, Wheeeeee!!! ]
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"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Winston Churchill
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Winston Churchill
[ Nice friendly Muslims want the head of the film-maker, how nice. ]
Islamists Offer $200k Reward For Severed Head Of Filmmaker
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A second Pakistani politician has offered a reward for anyone who kills the maker of the anti-Islam film that has angered Muslims around the world.
Ikramullah Shahid put up the $200,000 bounty at a rally in Peshawar, before a crowd of about 15,000 people.
The gathering was led by the Difa-e-Pakistan Council, an umbrella group of radical Islamic and militant groups. Shahid is a member of the group.
This is the second such offer made by someone in Pakistan. A federal cabinet minister earlier offered $100,000 for the man behind the US-made film that portrays the Prophet Mohammed as a fraud, womaniser and child molester.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...fer-200k-Reward-For-Severed-Head-Of-Filmmaker
Islamists Offer $200k Reward For Severed Head Of Filmmaker
A second Pakistani politician has offered a reward for anyone who kills the maker of the anti-Islam film that has angered Muslims around the world.
Ikramullah Shahid put up the $200,000 bounty at a rally in Peshawar, before a crowd of about 15,000 people.
The gathering was led by the Difa-e-Pakistan Council, an umbrella group of radical Islamic and militant groups. Shahid is a member of the group.
This is the second such offer made by someone in Pakistan. A federal cabinet minister earlier offered $100,000 for the man behind the US-made film that portrays the Prophet Mohammed as a fraud, womaniser and child molester.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...fer-200k-Reward-For-Severed-Head-Of-Filmmaker
[ no trial, no jury... and kids in the street watching. How nice and friendly ]
Suspected Collaborator With Israel Killed on Gaza Street
Wissam Nassar for The New York Times
Palestinians gathered on Friday around the body of a man identified as Ashraf Ouaida in Gaza City. More Photos »
By JODI RUDOREN and FARES AKRAM
Published: November 16, 2012
GAZA — Masked gunmen in Gaza killed a man here on Friday as a suspected collaborator with Israel on the third day of its deadly aerial bombardments, shooting him multiple times and leaving his body beneath a billboard featuring a Hamas fighter holding a rocket.
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The man the gunmen shot, identified as Ashraf Ouaida, had a poster hung around his neck accusing him of cooperating with the Israelis in the killing of 15 Palestinian leaders.
Wael Mohammed, a taxi driver who was standing on the steps of the Aman Mosque in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, said that around 11:45 a.m. he saw a Jeep pull up on Al Jalla Street, from which two masked men dragged Mr. Ouaida to the dirt circle under the Hamas billboard.
“They took him out from the Jeep with his hands cuffed behind his back, they pushed him under the poster and fired three gunshots at his head from the back,” Mr. Mohammed said. “He was still alive. Then they set his cuffs free and turned him upside down and fired on him again.”
One of the gunmen, Mr. Mohammed said, hung a poster in which Hamas’s Al-Qassam Brigades claimed responsibility and cited Mr. Ouaida’s alleged crimes.
By noon, at least 100 men and boys, some carrying prayer mats, had gathered around Mr. Ouaida’s body, covering his bloodied head with a plastic sheet. He was wearing blue pants and a black zip-up sweatshirt and his feet were bare, and one dusty sandal sat by his hand. Another 15 minutes elapsed before an ambulance took him away.
The brazen nature of the killing suggested that Hamas, which governs Gaza, intended it as a blunt message to other possible collaborators with Israel, which is believed to have an extensive network of informants here as part of its underlying battle with the group. But the shooting evoked mixed feelings.
“There were kids and children on the street,” said the witness, Mr. Mohammed. “They should have executed him in a far place.”
A spokeswoman for the Independent Commission for Human Rights, the Palestinian Authority’s watchdog agency that monitors prosecutions of suspected collaborators with Israel, said the group had no record of Mr. Ouaida having ever been arrested or sentenced to death.
Even if he had been, she noted, such an execution should be carried out by the government after a trial, not handled summarily on the street.
Suspected Collaborator With Israel Killed on Gaza Street
Palestinians gathered on Friday around the body of a man identified as Ashraf Ouaida in Gaza City. More Photos »
By JODI RUDOREN and FARES AKRAM
Published: November 16, 2012
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GAZA — Masked gunmen in Gaza killed a man here on Friday as a suspected collaborator with Israel on the third day of its deadly aerial bombardments, shooting him multiple times and leaving his body beneath a billboard featuring a Hamas fighter holding a rocket.
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Photographs Fighting Escalates Between Israel and Hamas
Multimedia Feature Challenges in Defining an Israeli-Palestinian Border
The man the gunmen shot, identified as Ashraf Ouaida, had a poster hung around his neck accusing him of cooperating with the Israelis in the killing of 15 Palestinian leaders.
Wael Mohammed, a taxi driver who was standing on the steps of the Aman Mosque in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, said that around 11:45 a.m. he saw a Jeep pull up on Al Jalla Street, from which two masked men dragged Mr. Ouaida to the dirt circle under the Hamas billboard.
“They took him out from the Jeep with his hands cuffed behind his back, they pushed him under the poster and fired three gunshots at his head from the back,” Mr. Mohammed said. “He was still alive. Then they set his cuffs free and turned him upside down and fired on him again.”
One of the gunmen, Mr. Mohammed said, hung a poster in which Hamas’s Al-Qassam Brigades claimed responsibility and cited Mr. Ouaida’s alleged crimes.
By noon, at least 100 men and boys, some carrying prayer mats, had gathered around Mr. Ouaida’s body, covering his bloodied head with a plastic sheet. He was wearing blue pants and a black zip-up sweatshirt and his feet were bare, and one dusty sandal sat by his hand. Another 15 minutes elapsed before an ambulance took him away.
The brazen nature of the killing suggested that Hamas, which governs Gaza, intended it as a blunt message to other possible collaborators with Israel, which is believed to have an extensive network of informants here as part of its underlying battle with the group. But the shooting evoked mixed feelings.
“There were kids and children on the street,” said the witness, Mr. Mohammed. “They should have executed him in a far place.”
A spokeswoman for the Independent Commission for Human Rights, the Palestinian Authority’s watchdog agency that monitors prosecutions of suspected collaborators with Israel, said the group had no record of Mr. Ouaida having ever been arrested or sentenced to death.
Even if he had been, she noted, such an execution should be carried out by the government after a trial, not handled summarily on the street.
