I see. I'll pass on biting you, but I will try to explain where I am coming from. I'm not sure why you thought the theme was bipartisanship. The theme was the deal with Iran and the purpose/value of the GOP Letter. I said the best course of action was to continue working towards a veto-proof majority, which would require Democrat votes, therefore making it bipartisan. I understand that you tried to take this conversation in the direction of partisanship in congress, with your comments on curing cancer and the Keystone Pipeline, because you think Dems won't cross over but I don't see any value in that. As of a week ago, Lindsey Graham seemed to think they could garner enough votes for a veto-proof majority and Bob Corker still seems to think they can. I'd like to think he is correct.
Again, what real world purpose did that letter serve? All it did was give Democrats an excuse to not align with Republicans to override his veto. I know it sounds rude but all that letter really did was give guys like you a hard on. It didn't strengthen Congress' position one iota. Honestly, Joe I've laid out my opinion and you have laid out yours. What's the point of going back and forth beating this dead horse? You aren't changing your mind and neither am I. I'm headed out for the weekend. Perhaps we will revisit this on Monday, but I hope not.
The Senate passed sanctions against Iran 100-0.
Now the Kenyan is telling Iran he'll override Congress and do whatever the hell he wants with his shit deal, including promising Iran he'll lift the sanctions unilaterally. Sen. Graham stated if he tries to ratify his illegal Act of Surrender through the UN, Congress will defund the UN.
I almost never agree with Graham, but he's right on this issue.
Hussein is a psychopathic, vile, totalitarian evil piece of shit.
Now the Kenyan is telling Iran he'll override Congress and do whatever the hell he wants with his shit deal, including promising Iran he'll lift the sanctions unilaterally. Sen. Graham stated if he tries to ratify his illegal Act of Surrender through the UN, Congress will defund the UN.
I almost never agree with Graham, but he's right on this issue.
Hussein is a psychopathic, vile, totalitarian evil piece of shit.
The official said that the Security Council had mandated the negotiations over the U.N. sanctions and therefore has to be involved. The core role in negotiations with Iran that was being played by the five permanent members meant that any understanding over U.N. sanctions would likely get endorsed by the full council, the official added.
Iran rejects Western allegations it is seeking a nuclear weapons capability.
Officials said a U.N. resolution could help protect any nuclear deal against attempts by Republicans in U.S. Congress to sabotage it. Since violation of U.N. demands that Iran halt enrichment provide a legal basis for sanctioning Tehran, a new resolution could make new sanction moves difficult.
“There is an interesting question about whether, if the Security Council endorses the deal, that stops Congress undermining the deal,” a Western diplomat said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/12/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN0M82IS20150312
Iran rejects Western allegations it is seeking a nuclear weapons capability.
Officials said a U.N. resolution could help protect any nuclear deal against attempts by Republicans in U.S. Congress to sabotage it. Since violation of U.N. demands that Iran halt enrichment provide a legal basis for sanctioning Tehran, a new resolution could make new sanction moves difficult.
“There is an interesting question about whether, if the Security Council endorses the deal, that stops Congress undermining the deal,” a Western diplomat said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/12/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN0M82IS20150312
Eh...dims backed out on plenty during the Reagan era. Promised tax cuts in exchange for...whatever. R's gave them what they wanted, but those tax cuts somehow never materialized.
If you want to know the real problem in DC, check out these scorecards:
https://www.conservativereview.com/scorecard
Sort it by R's. Half the fuckin Senate and it seems like more than half the house R's have F grades when it comes to voting conservatively. It's becoming more and more difficult to distinguish between the two parties.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/03/13/obama-on-gop-iran-letter-im-embarrassed-for-them/
Obama strikes back!
Obama: “I’m embarrassed for them. For them to address a letter to the Ayatollah, who they claim is our mortal enemy. And their basic argument to them is, don’t deal with our president because you can’t trust him to follow through on an agreement, that’s close to unprecedented.”
Take that!
Obama strikes back!
Obama: “I’m embarrassed for them. For them to address a letter to the Ayatollah, who they claim is our mortal enemy. And their basic argument to them is, don’t deal with our president because you can’t trust him to follow through on an agreement, that’s close to unprecedented.”
Take that!
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/europeans-attack-republican-letter-iran
Germany's foreign minister joined President Barack Obama and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in lashing out at the 47 Republican senators that signed a letter criticizing the ongoing negotiations on Iran's nuclear program.
“Suddenly, Iran can say to us: ‘Are your proposals actually trustworthy if 47 senators say that no matter what the government agrees to, we can subsequently take it off the table?’ ” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said during a visit to Washington.
I hate to break it to you Frankie baby, but that’s exactly what it means. Haven’t you been listening to Kerry?
Germany's foreign minister joined President Barack Obama and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in lashing out at the 47 Republican senators that signed a letter criticizing the ongoing negotiations on Iran's nuclear program.
“Suddenly, Iran can say to us: ‘Are your proposals actually trustworthy if 47 senators say that no matter what the government agrees to, we can subsequently take it off the table?’ ” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said during a visit to Washington.
I hate to break it to you Frankie baby, but that’s exactly what it means. Haven’t you been listening to Kerry?
On a side note:
The United States must negotiate with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in order to try to bring an end to the nation’s four-year civil war, Secretary of State John Kerry said on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” in an interview that aired today.
Kerry said that talks with the Assad regime would be part of a “diplomatic” solution to the crisis in Syria.
OK Big John you get right on that! :Carcajada:
The United States must negotiate with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in order to try to bring an end to the nation’s four-year civil war, Secretary of State John Kerry said on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” in an interview that aired today.
Kerry said that talks with the Assad regime would be part of a “diplomatic” solution to the crisis in Syria.
OK Big John you get right on that! :Carcajada:
LMFAO
[h=1]Democrats prepared to buck White House on Iran nuclear deal[/h]
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...-white-house-on-iran-nuclear-deal-116088.html
Traitors!!!
[h=1]Democrats prepared to buck White House on Iran nuclear deal[/h]
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...-white-house-on-iran-nuclear-deal-116088.html
Traitors!!!
Southern Republicans are so embarrassing. Here is a tweet from potential prez candidate Bobby Jindal. They are like children. Embarrassing this once great nation. This is how the clowns on this forum talk, not professionals in charge of the greatest country in the history of mankind. The Founding Fathers would slap the shit out of the new age Republican traitors. Embarrassing.
"Anyone thinking of running for Prez, on both sides, should sign on to the letter to make clear that Iran is negotiating w/ lame duck Prez."
"Anyone thinking of running for Prez, on both sides, should sign on to the letter to make clear that Iran is negotiating w/ lame duck Prez."
