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I would take Penn St over Alabama, Texas Tech and Ok St. Penn St is a very good team, they proved that to me last night. I still think by the time the bowl games come around Ohio St will be a much better team than Penn St, but we're talking now and PSU just beat a very good team on the road. Ohio St would beat bama, texas texh and Ok St also, and probably beat a couple of them pretty big. I still think those three are frauds, other than maybe ok st because they did just play texas tough.

1. USC
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Georgia
5. Florida
6. Penn St
7. Ohio St
8. Ok St/Oregon

These are the 8 best teams in the nation imo (with a T8). I would take Oregon at a pick on a neutral field over LSU, Alabama, Texas Tech and any other team you can think of that isn't on this list. Yes, they lost AT HOME to Boise St. Very bad loss, I agree. They win that game much more often than not though and I'd still take them in my top 8. I would take them at a pk on a neutral field over Ok St too, but Ok St has earned their ranking. I'd probably take a few teams over Ok St that aren't on this list, but it's hard to leave them off.

As for neutral field lines vs Penn St.

USC -7.5
Oklahoma -5.5
Texas -4
Georgia -2.5
Florida -4.5
Alabama +2.5
Texas Tech +5.5
Ok St +4.5

Ohio State would not beat Texas Tech. Those guys are for real & have the best offense in the country. They will beat Texas by 10+ next weekend.
 

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I would classify the won over Ohio State last night a quality win. And, for those of you that are bashing PSU's offense for ONLY scoring 13 points - keep in mind - they also had ZERO turnovers and ZERO penalties for the game !!! That is what you call discipline. They did what they had to do to win. And when you only give up 11.1 pts per game (100 for the season) 13 is enough for a win.... Alot of you who say PSU still sucks and they will get killed if they get to the championship game are the same ones who said Ohio State would win.....:nohead:
 

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Hippiekiller,

Love your name, but you must be smoking crack. PSU has the best skill players in the Big 10. Speed kills and State is loaded with it.

They are no fraud and will run the rest of the table. We'll have to make a gentleman's wager when they are in the BCS.

Best skill players in the Big-10? What is that even worth this year, much less over the last 7 years or so? The Big-10 has been down in the dumps for quite some time and this year they've hit an all-time new low.

Traditional "good" to "decent" teams like Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and Purdue are all awful, I mean truly terrible. And Penn State played them all this year, while Minnesota and Northwestern are "up" (a relative term in this conference) and PSU happened to avoid them both.

Add to that, the absolutely embarrassing OOC opponents in Coastal Carolina, Syracuse, Temple, and Oregon State and you have the most pathetic schedule one could ever play.

I stand by my post 100%. There are a solid 8 teams that are better than Penn State and another 4 to 6 who could probably beat them as well depending on the day. I love Paterno as much as the next guy, but one still needs to be realist. None of the teams I listed in my original post are a reach whatsoever.

Penn State is barely a top 15 team in any other conference besides the Big-10, it's just that simple.
 

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Depending what SOS you're using. If you're using a SOS that uses cold, worthless data, yea they are probably somewhere in the middle of the road.

My ratings (which are faring pretty well, 13-5 last two weeks) have Penn State 18th in strength of schedule.
What kind of fucked up ratings do you have that could lead you to believe Penn State has played the 18 hardest schedule in the country?

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>August 30</td><td>Coastal Carolina </td><td>W 66-10</td><td>1-0 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>September 6</td><td>Oregon State </td><td>W 45-14</td><td>2-0 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>September 13</td><td>at Syracuse </td><td>W 55-13</td><td>3-0 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>September 20</td><td>Temple </td><td>W 45-3</td><td>4-0 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>September 27</td><td>No. 22 Illinois </td><td>W 38-24</td><td>5-0 (1-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>October 4</td><td>at Purdue </td><td>W 20-6</td><td>6-0 (2-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>October 11</td><td>at Wisconsin </td><td>W 48-7</td><td>7-0 (3-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td>October 18</td><td>Michigan </td><td>W 46-17</td><td>8-0 (4-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td>October 25</td><td>at No. 9 Ohio State </td><td>W 13-6</td><td>9-0 (5-0)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Coastal Carolina is 4-5 and not even D1-A. Oregon State is 4-3, Syracuse is 1-6, Temple is 3-5, Illinois is 4-4 (and not ranked any more), Purdue is 2-6, Wisconsin is 4-4 and Michigan is 2-6. As of right now Penn State has played two opponents that have a winning record.

Give most top teams that schedule and they could breeze through it too
 

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The kind of system that helps see things a little clearer by removing the fuzzy goggles most ordinary people are born with when they try to analyze sports.

I don't know........the kind of ratings that have gone 13-5 the past two weeks maybe?

The kind of methodology that has consistantly serviced me for 60% winners the past several years perhaps?


Just a thought.
 

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The kind of system that helps see things a little clearer by removing the fuzzy goggles most ordinary people are born with when they try to analyze sports.

I don't know........the kind of ratings that have gone 13-5 the past two weeks maybe?

The kind of methodology that has consistently serviced me for 60% winners the past several years perhaps?


Just a thought.

Not trying to give you shit here but your record for two weeks means little because sample size and time frame is so small. If it consistently won like that for lots of weeks then of course you may be on to something.

I am just curious how a team that only faced two opponents (one is 4-3) that have won more games then they lost has the 18th best schedule in the country?
 

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I have a 60% documented record from last year too .

A thing or two about my methodology: Just because a team look 4-3 or 4-4 or 2-6 to you, doesn't mean they really are.

I have Illinois, Oregon St., Purdue, Wisconsin rated higher than the common man does.
 

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jesus who ever started this thread an idiot! PSU will be in the NC game for sure. By far the most balanced team in football. Run the ball and stop the run= championships
 

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If you posted in this thread that PSU is not any good, consider yourself the public. People get too caught up in style points and don't understand athletics. People are ready to pronounce USC and Florida as kings of the world because they can hang 63 and 70 points on people. Penn State wins any way they need to. While I agree their schedule has been weak so far to date, that doesnt make them a bad team. This game right here though, was a very big test for them and they passed with flying colors.

PSU showed A LOT in this football game and more style points than you can count:

1. Outstanding defense.
2. NO TURNOVERS, NO PENALTIES. WHAT!? On the ROAD? They will not lose a game this year if they keep doing anything close to that. (This shows me that they are disciplined, they wont lose their heads or lose their cool in big games. They can handle all of the pressure. AND OSU wasnt as athletic, fast, or better than PSU to cause them to commit penalties or turnovers.)
3. Making plays when it counts.
4. They showed there are very few teams that can play a track meet AND play a low scoring slugfest.
5. TOUGHNESS.
6. Lose their QB and leader in the 3rd quarter and still win.

You can say boo-hoo fumble this and that but there was still plenty of time left in that game whether OSU fumbled or not. There wasnt 3 mins left. There was 10 minutes. Nevermind the fact that that was an outstanding tackle/forced fumble.

That was a classic Big Ten Football game and you throw score out the window and give the nod to the team that knows how to win the tight ones - especially on the road.

Penn State's schedule might not be the best right now, but they are showing a lot of little things that potentially great teams do. If PSU was a fraud, they would have LOST that game to OH ST. OSU had every chance in that game to win, they had all of the intangibles in their favor (mental, historic, home field, night game, underdog role, PSu lost their QB in the 3Q, etc). PSU still overcame all of that and won and that is what great teams do.

I disagree with every post in this thread outside of Sekrah.

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If you posted in this thread that PSU is not any good, consider yourself the public. People get too caught up in style points and don't understand athletics. People are ready to pronounce USC and Florida as kings of the world because they can hang 63 and 70 points on people. Penn State wins any way they need to. While I agree their schedule has been weak so far to date, that doesnt make them a bad team. This game right here though, was a very big test for them and they passed with flying colors.

PSU showed A LOT in this football game and more style points than you can count:

1. Outstanding defense.
2. NO TURNOVERS, NO PENALTIES. WHAT!? On the ROAD? They will not lose a game this year if they keep doing anything close to that. (This shows me that they are disciplined, they wont lose their heads or lose their cool in big games. They can handle all of the pressure. AND OSU wasnt as athletic, fast, or better than PSU to cause them to commit penalties or turnovers.)
3. Making plays when it counts.
4. They showed there are very few teams that can play a track meet AND play a low scoring slugfest.
5. TOUGHNESS.
6. Lose their QB and leader in the 3rd quarter and still win.

You can say boo-hoo fumble this and that but there was still plenty of time left in that game whether OSU fumbled or not. There wasnt 3 mins left. There was 10 minutes. Nevermind the fact that that was an outstanding tackle/forced fumble.

That was a classic Big Ten Football game and you throw score out the window and give the nod to the team that knows how to win the tight ones - especially on the road.

Penn State's schedule might not be the best right now, but they are showing a lot of little things that potentially great teams do. If PSU was a fraud, they would have LOST that game to OH ST. OSU had every chance in that game to win, they had all of the intangibles in their favor (mental, historic, home field, night game, underdog role, PSu lost their QB in the 3Q, etc). PSU still overcame all of that and won and that is what great teams do.

I disagree with every post in this thread outside of Sekrah.

Sorry but making a big deal about a Penn State win over Ohio State is nothing. They still haven't proven itself against clearly superior competition. They needed a fumble to win that game as their offense was not just going to magically get going after being put in check all night.

This isn't about style points, I know the sport such as yourself. This team could not hang with superior teams like USC, Alabama, Florida, Texas, etc...

If they get to the title game, I will make a ton.
 

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This team could not hang with superior teams like USC, Alabama, Florida, Texas, etc...

Tell me this is some sort of joke?
 

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I'm trying to figure out why it's okay for Texas, Alabama, USC to have squeakers, but PSU must blow everybody out by 40 points or they automatically considered worthless?

SOS argument is nonsense.. PSU has a stronger schedule than almost all the Top 10 teams (except for USC).

This is without a doubt one of the most idiotic threads in the history of TheRx.
 

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My SOS rankings coming into this weekend with the AP Top 10 teams

1. Texas, 35th
2. Alabama, 43rd
3. Penn St., 18th
4. Oklahoma, 20th
5. Florida, 29th
6. USC, 4th
7. Oklahoma St., 25th
8. Texas Tech, 50th
9. Georgia, 11th
10. Ohio St., 27th


That doesn't include any of the games from this weekend which I'm still punching in.


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SOS argument is nonsense.. PSU has a stronger schedule than almost all the Top 10 teams (except for USC).

This is without a doubt one of the most idiotic threads in the history of TheRx.




It's actually a thread that makes perfect sense. PSU SOS is strong, are you kidding me, stop it right now... I love how everyone thinks that a win ( an undeserved gift win at that) at the Horseshoe somehow entitles someone to a title game. PSU plays in the big 10, hardly a bastion of success and prominence this year. The whole conference is down and not taken too seriously by anyone who doesn't watch the Big 10 Network :missingte.... The spread hd worked wonders in columbus by the way, about 6 legitimate points and a giftwrapped td that they had a hard time putting in. IMO, PSU would get demolished by these 8 teams and couple others, and you can call me a basher, good luck with Iowa Indian and Mich State, really tough and strenuous games their. This team is not elite IMO :grandmais
 

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I'm trying to figure out why it's okay for Texas, Alabama, USC to have squeakers, but PSU must blow everybody out by 40 points or they automatically considered worthless?

SOS argument is nonsense.. PSU has a stronger schedule than almost all the Top 10 teams (except for USC).

This is without a doubt one of the most idiotic threads in the history of TheRx.
Absolutely ridiculous. They have played some awful teams and got a massive break vs Ohio State. They should blow everyone out because the Big 10 sucks ass, especially this year. PSU would die if they were set in the SEC or Big 12. Iowa is home next week. Michigan St is last.. i think they will have to fight very hard to go unbeaten.
 

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You guys are right.. I have no idea what I'm talking about.. What was I thinking. I don't know anything about college football. :ohno:
 

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