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5* Florida Atlantic-11’ W
4* Army -4’ L
4* FIU -5 W
3* Texas +10’ W
3* Iowa +3’ L
3* Boise St -13 W
3* Arizona +6’ L


4* Under 47’ Old Dominon / Marshall L
3* Over 61 Alabama/ Texas A&M W
3* Over 54 Iowa St / West Virginia L
3* Under 49’ Nebraska/ Minnesota W

I have NC at 5-4 picking up 2.6 units with two games left.

Marquees go 3-0.


NC splits the last two games and goes a rather uneventful 6-5 (better than losing though) and picks up 23 units on the day.

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Correction from previous post.

Typo from previous post.

NC actually picked up 2.3 units on the day rather than 23.
 

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in the past a 5* on a side always meant the much anticipated gom. times they are a changin.

It still might.

We won't know for sure until we see what they promote for the next two weekends.

That said, I would be shocked if they do put out a October GOM next weekend as opposed to the week after, because it will make them look

pretty hypocritical putting out a 5* this weekend, which this is their highest rated play, and them immediately following it with a GOM, which

would raise the question as to why the GOM was not yesterday as it was the five star.

By at least waiting until the final weekend, that would allow some time to pass, which would make a GOM look a little more plausible.

I hope my point is clear here.

Then again, as you imply, yesterday's Five Star may serve also as the GOM meaning that only the College Total of Month and NFL Play of the Mont will follow.
 

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Short message today.

On ext. 3 Todd does recap, which corroborates mine.

The usual Sunday pricing is in effect.

THE SUNDAY NFL PRO PLAY OF THE WEEK GOING FOR SIX STRAIGHT IS TENNESSEE + 2.
 

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Re: The Late Phones, all we know so far is that NC had a play on the Seattle/Cleveland game with two more to come later.

Inasmuch as PS has a pick on Seattle, I would assume the play is Seattle but no guarantees.

https://www.thesportsmonitor.com/pages/game-action.php?hid=133&cid=1

Feel free to post the plays if you see them as I am our for lunch for now.
 

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Well FWIW, here is the 1:00 pick:

Past Plays

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Here is the entire card-interesting that according to this, no 3.5 star or higher.

Northcoast
3’* under 41 Tennessee
3* Seattle pick
3* under 44’ dallas
 

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Here is the entire card-interesting that according to this, no 3.5 star or higher.

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3’* under 41 Tennessee

3* Seattle pick

3* under 44’ dallas

Oops-I forgot to put on my glasses before as I now see the UNDER Tenn is rated 3.5 stars.
 

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2-1 day with Late Phones.

They got a bad break in Dallas to push it over, but on the other hand they could have easily lost Seattle

In short it all comes out in the wash.
 

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Early look.

With yesterday's plus 3.3 results added to the 2.3 units picked up on Saturday, it apears that NC will have just

its second winning week of the season even if tonight's two star goes down and when cost of service is added in.

With two weekends to go and the College Totals of the Month and NFL GOM still out, it will be interesting to see of those suffice for NC or whether they

will decided to have a College GOM also even though they just had a floating five star over this last weekend.

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The recap today was fair, honest and complete for yesterday, Saturday and the week.

The same Monday pricing as always is in effect with the guarantee and without guarantee.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT ONLY THE EARLY BIRD PICK, GOING FOR ITS SEVENTH STRAIGHT, IT IS GEORGIA -24 1/2.

For those who want to read additional commentary, it will follow shortly.
 

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For those who are interested, here is my present take overall on NC based on my following them for so many years.

Aside from the problem of their picks being posted for free(although not a given this year as many times we have received some of the plays after the

the games have begun and in some cases with the Marquees not at all), I think there is more of a curiosity feeling about what the NC

picks other than anything else other than of course the 5 stars or GOM.

I see each and every weekend that some folks always request the NC plays, but imo if they are not posted right away, they just move

on and request/look for the plays of the many other cappers out there, some of whom have been doing well of late.

I think that one of the big reasons that NC picks are requested in the first place because they are a household name to most folks and

especially to those who have been gambling for a while as NC goes back around 37 years or so.

Along the same lines I think there is a certain comfort level with their picks because 1) folks realize that they are not going to see such things as billion

star locks, 107-12 lifetime bs records or Play of My Life and other hype and crap.

Instead they are going to see plays rated from 3-5 stars only on weekends and a 2 star on Monday.

I think that that in itself brings a certain comfort level.

2) In addition I think there is a certain level with the number of plays released especially on Sunday when one knows that there are going to be three and

three only star rated plays released.

In all honesty, whether I play them or not, I als enjoy the selectivity on Sunday, as I know what their top plays are, and it just makes life easier in

deciding if I want to play some or all of their picks.

On the other hand, I think that one of the turnoffs especially for a non PowerSweep Subscriber is the Late Phone pricing, which imo is a bit high compared

to that of lots of other services whose records are at least as good as NC.

Yes and to be fair, NC does offer substantial discounts to those who subscribe to PS, although I don't think that the reduced prices are still any better

than other services or in many cases are simply not as good relative to the accuracy of the picks.

Also the very fact that there are so many sports services out there as compared to how many there were 10-20 years or even longer, detracts

from folks focusing on the NC picks alone(the same can be said for any service for that matter)when they people look at the varying gambling sites

on the internet and are literally bludgeoned with different services promoting their picks and in many cases having their picks posted

free of charge-you night say at this stage, that overall NC is regarded pretty much as another fish in the pond.

To be honest, even though I offer a lot of criticism of NC in this space about how the service is run along with the documentation

of its records, I am not sure that there is anything which is going to make NC profitable again no matter what they do and certainly

not to the extent of the good days of 20 years ago when NC flourished both because the picks overall did better than they do know and because of serious

and a multitude of competition.

I think that the only thing which MIGHT save them is that if NC went on a SUSTAINED winning streak for a number of weeks(unlike

the Saturday this season they went 9-1, but it turned out to be a one hit wonder) and somehow there was a way so that

their plays weren't posted at all, business would pick up substantially and especially so since they are so well know compared

to lots of services which haven't been around that long.

Anyways that is pretty much how I see it.

Thanks to all who took the time to read it, and as always, feel free to disagree and/or add your own commentary.
 

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Hmm-not only are the Monday Night plays not posted, but according to the SM, nothing was submitted.

I guess the "suspense" will last until tomorrow when we find out who they had for the Late Phone rated play and the Marquee. lol

ps to be fair though, the lady in charge of the SM is way up there in years and may have simply forgotten to note the plays were

sent to them.
 

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I guess I will have to wait to do recaps until Todd announces who NC had on Monday unless someone else there knows and posts it and/or Ruthie

at SM remembers to post them assuming of course that the plays were submitted.

I can't remember ever not knowing the Monday Night Plays sometime on Monday-either before, during or after the game.

Life will go on though!!!@):mad:
 

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Ok-since I just got the results from Monday Night, both losers(the two star rated play was on GB and the Marquee on OVER), I am going to do two

posts, one for the recaps and a second one for the comps and message.

Ok-for now here are the weekly and cumulative recaps and then some editorial comment:

Week Seven:

College sides and totals 6-5 with 2.3 units GAINED.

Pros 2-2 with 1 unit GAINED.

Overall for the week 3.3 units were GAINED or $330 dollars at $100 a unit.

The cheapest cost of service for a non PS subscriber of the several mentioned to get all of the Late Phone Plays was $198.

Thus factoring the cost, it is seen that 1.32 units or $132 was GAINED.

Cumulative:

College 36-33 with 5.65 units LOST.

Pro 13-11 with 5.4 units GAINED.

Overall .25 units have been LOST or MINUS $25 at $100 a unit.

The total cost of service so far is 16.42 units or $1,642.

Thus adding in the cost, it is seen that so far the non PS subscriber is MINUS 16.67 units or MINUS $1,667 at $100 a unit.

I will be back in next post momentarily with the comps. and recap of the message.
 

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