Great post. Someone who makes sense.
Hey Weezy so let me get this straight. For decades nfl teams have employed murders, rapists, wife and girlfriend abusers. Players that were very bad people. Players that mentally and physically abused daughters, sisters, mothers. These posters continued to support the NFL by watching and going to games. Now players are sitting or kneeling during the National Anthem and now these posters are going to start boycotting and not watch the nfl games. Hilarious! Tells me a lot about these posters. it shows what kind of people they are.
Arent putting politics ahead of the sport, so we are protesting the Anthem...LOL
Dumb bastard
Dumb bastard
yes, along with the word RESPECT. the ingrates cannot spell or pronounce the word and you would think that with the nfl being 70% black that race would not be an issue. enfuego's comment is dead on that free speech does not extend into the work place. they should keep politics out of their work place but, of course, the owners do not want to offend their cash cow producers.
well written response from Tom Rogan.... http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-steelers-anthem-protest-was-ignorant/article/2635442
The Steelers anthem protest was ignorant
by Tom Rogan | Sep 24, 2017, 5:33 PM
Protesting President Trump's condemnation of NFL athletes who kneel during the national anthem, on Sunday, the Pittsburgh Steelers remained in their dressing room as the national anthem was played. That is, except for Alejandro Villanueva, who recognized the nation is more than one man.
Still, it's a shame the other Steelers showed such ignorance.
Don't get me wrong, I disagree with Trump's decision to inject himself into the kneeling controversy. Whatever his intentions, the president's words will only foster greater division.
Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and that's exactly what the Steelers did by staying in the dressing room. Explaining the team's decision, coach Mike Tomlin stated that "We're not going to let divisive times or divisive individuals affect our agenda ... we're not going to play politics with football players, with football coaches, we're not going to be participating in the anthem today."
Those words are delusional. When you say "we're not going to play politics with football players," but then boycott the national anthem in support of a political protest, you're most certainly playing politics. But the central issue here is not that Tomlin's confusion, but rather the affront to the nation that this boycott represented. Whatever the Steelers organization might think, their action is not an affront to Trump, but to the republic that the anthem heralds and the flag represents.
And in terms of political order, Trump and the nation are very distinct things. Trump is the elected, temporary leader of the nation, but the Constitution and its careful balancing of powers represent the nation's political identity. This is what separates America from many other nations, both democratic and authoritarian, where the leader and the nation are symbiotic. In Britain, for example, the ruling monarch is both the head of state and the embodiment of the nation. That's why the current U.K. national anthem is "God Save the Queen" (it will be "God Save the King", when the Dolphin takes over) and why, during the national anthem, British Army regiments lower their flag to the Queen's feet. The Queen is the British nation.
Trump is not the American nation.
When the Steelers boycotted the anthem, they weren't ultimately rebuking Trump, they were rebuking the nation and the heritage of those, like Alejandro Villanueva and Jesse Brown, who fight and die to ensure our flag is always still there. Athletes like any other citizen have the right to protest, but in what they did on Sunday, the Steelers embodied a sad ignorance.
The Steelers anthem protest was ignorant
by Tom Rogan | Sep 24, 2017, 5:33 PM
Protesting President Trump's condemnation of NFL athletes who kneel during the national anthem, on Sunday, the Pittsburgh Steelers remained in their dressing room as the national anthem was played. That is, except for Alejandro Villanueva, who recognized the nation is more than one man.
Still, it's a shame the other Steelers showed such ignorance.
Don't get me wrong, I disagree with Trump's decision to inject himself into the kneeling controversy. Whatever his intentions, the president's words will only foster greater division.
Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and that's exactly what the Steelers did by staying in the dressing room. Explaining the team's decision, coach Mike Tomlin stated that "We're not going to let divisive times or divisive individuals affect our agenda ... we're not going to play politics with football players, with football coaches, we're not going to be participating in the anthem today."
Those words are delusional. When you say "we're not going to play politics with football players," but then boycott the national anthem in support of a political protest, you're most certainly playing politics. But the central issue here is not that Tomlin's confusion, but rather the affront to the nation that this boycott represented. Whatever the Steelers organization might think, their action is not an affront to Trump, but to the republic that the anthem heralds and the flag represents.
And in terms of political order, Trump and the nation are very distinct things. Trump is the elected, temporary leader of the nation, but the Constitution and its careful balancing of powers represent the nation's political identity. This is what separates America from many other nations, both democratic and authoritarian, where the leader and the nation are symbiotic. In Britain, for example, the ruling monarch is both the head of state and the embodiment of the nation. That's why the current U.K. national anthem is "God Save the Queen" (it will be "God Save the King", when the Dolphin takes over) and why, during the national anthem, British Army regiments lower their flag to the Queen's feet. The Queen is the British nation.
Trump is not the American nation.
When the Steelers boycotted the anthem, they weren't ultimately rebuking Trump, they were rebuking the nation and the heritage of those, like Alejandro Villanueva and Jesse Brown, who fight and die to ensure our flag is always still there. Athletes like any other citizen have the right to protest, but in what they did on Sunday, the Steelers embodied a sad ignorance.
Yes i find it pretty amazing myself. So all these guys that now say they are boycotting the NFL continued to support the league after many many incidents of players over the years of beating on women and driving while intoxicated putting the public at risk. Now because some guy sits or kneels during the Anthem they are outraged. Tells me quite a lot about the people here.
