Interestingly in this series, it's been mostly TCU. Even as bad as TCU was last year, they were only a 14 point dog to Baylor in Ft Worth, yet it's only 10 in Waco this weekend. Baylor won last year by 3 points, and 2 years ago in the RGIII season they beat TCU in Waco by 2 points in that wild 50-48 game.
'13 Bay 41 - 38 (TCU +14)
'12 TCU 49 - 21 (TCU +6)
'11 Bay 50 - 48 (Bay +4)
'10 TCU 45 - 10 (TCU -21)
'07 TCU 27 - 0 (TCU -21.5)
'06 TCU 17 - 7 (TCU -7)
With respect to Baylor's defense, its good however Texas had 20 FDs, and over 350 yards. What's funny is that Texas put up less offense the week before @ Kansas as compared to Saturday's game.
Well, if you think this guy doesn't learn from the past, <grin>. Really though? Man, you are keeling me here. Rebs off the big win, the beer and pussy be runneth over and A&M has got to have one Texas size case of the redass right now. I'll let you talk me out of it, you were right about game 1.
~T~
You may not be getting as much value with TCU as you think. It's almost the reverse of last week. Everybody thought they were getting value on OU. Especially with that line going all the way down to 3 at one point. The only thing right now that makes me hesistate on pulling the trigger on this game is I've been studying ATS records for a long time. And teams like TCU who went 4-8 ATS the year before, at least 70% of them come back the next year and go at least 6-6 ATS when returning their coach, QB and at least 14 starters. And at least 50% of those teams have 8 wins or more ATS the next year when not picked in the top 3 in their conference.. TCU has the look of one of those teams who are going to win 8 or more games ATS this year. They are already halfway there. But this isn't a great spot for them. Plus they'll be a huge public dog this week.
Baylor doesn't have a world beating defense, but they are a little better than i thought they would be. If you look at last year, on the road Baylor gave up 25, 14, 34, 49, 38. Yet they covered every game at home, and most by a very wide margin. They are just a much different team in Waco than they are on the road.
Aren't they opening up a new stadium down there in Waco as well? Looks like they held a couple scrimmages already, but no big games. Now Ft. Worth less than 100 miles away, as the crow flies so maybe the home field will not be as significant? How many Frogs fans will make the journey? Kind of odd that a game in Waco is gonna upstage the RR game.
lol sorry tmader. I don't like talking people out of bets but I do like to present my side. Here is all I can offer for betting on A&M. They just finished a 3 games on the road. The game before miss state the defense was on field for 2/3rds of the game(is that the reason A&M lost?... nope). The offense has(should have) a lot of firepower. Sorry thats all I got.
But the offense isn't clicking. Kenny has accuracy issues and can't seem to hit a moving target. We all thought after the Arkansas game, it was on the receivers for dropping critical balls. This game the receivers will wake up and show what this offense can do. Then they drop 9 of them. One could argue the WR drops stalled drives that could have resulted in touchdowns. However, I think even having caught all them it still wouldnt have been enough. A&Ms defense has talent and depth but Snyder cant seem to put them in positions to make plays... I could go on. But I'll just say I hope I'm wrong.
One point that maybe some people won't consider. OU isn't as good as everybody thinks. I knew this coming into this season. That's why I took the under 10.5 wins. And I expect them to lose 1 to 2 more games. Their skill players are still very young, and OU doesn't have an adequate long ball threat. Next year the Sooners will be much better. I look for a 10-2 or 9-3 season this year. So the TCU win, although good, wasn't shocking. And the short closing line proved that...
In a perfect world on this forum what we would have is 1 person for every team in the 5 major confs. Someone who basically watches every down of their team. I saw the same thing in Wisconsin this week. I see every play and I see the the problems that are covered up in the box score. To me they were on even terms with Northwestern going into the game and thats pretty much how it played out. The same problems they have had all year are the ones that were there again Saturday. There was another poster on here from Cuse that laid it out really well on them.
Kennedy was injured for the Miss St game. I imagine in the presser tomorrow Sumlin will give his probably probable status. I did just read that the game is sold out 106k+ and they are going to do standing room only. I am not sure the capacity with standing room only but I cant wait. Should be a crazy at least for a quarter...
