So do I, January through April except when I'm following the Huskies around.
Anyhow, you're beating the libs are lazy argument to death. Obviously, there are hardworking, good & smart libs. The libs are lazy reference refers to a very large segment of the Democratic base that does not work. We both know welfare recipients do not tend to vote for the GOP.
Welfare recipients are not considered in unemployment rates. They are the professional wait by the mail box crowd. And the powers that be on the left want to keep it that way, barefoot & dependent.
3.5% ? is that political speak? :thumbsup:
You are all over the board. I posted a list of what I consider to be facts within this thread. You laughed them off. I stated what fact listed do you want to debate, and you respond with a shotgun approach with all different topics.
I simply refuse to waste significant time posting a reasoned argument with somebody with ADD. You post a sound bite, but I prefer to substantiate my position and address others that I don't agree with.
When you address the facts of mine you responded to with a :missingte, then we have game on. As for your shotgun approach & other issues, start any thread you desire, you'll learn if I agree or disagree and why.
Hey I do have ADD so shut the fuck up asshole.
Now back to the subject at hand you said you would show me I was wrong on the one party statement and brought up a few points which I addressed. I think those points you brought up proved exactly how little difference there is in the parties and those issues are used to pit us against each other.
Let me look back at these facts you are saying and I will follow up on that.
Now back to the subject at hand you said you would show me I was wrong on the one party statement and brought up a few points which I addressed. I think those points you brought up proved exactly how little difference there is in the parties and those issues are used to pit us against each other.
Let me look back at these facts you are saying and I will follow up on that.
Are you referring to your list on post #45?
I did respond and it basically all had to do with Clinton and Newt. I think Clinton was a fairly good president and if he could run again it would be a landslide. I don't like how is governed from the center which I do think is fair but all that happened was the Repugs kept pulling farther over to the religious right.
I did respond and it basically all had to do with Clinton and Newt. I think Clinton was a fairly good president and if he could run again it would be a landslide. I don't like how is governed from the center which I do think is fair but all that happened was the Repugs kept pulling farther over to the religious right.
Really now pick something you want to discuss or debate if you want do it from that list and make your point on one of them.
Here is one for you. Who wasted the tax payers time and 10's of millions of daollars to investigate a $250,000 land investment? Then have Willy impeached for lying about a BJ, knowing they couldn't get him out of office. It is even better than the Scooter Libby BS.
Here is one for you. Who wasted the tax payers time and 10's of millions of daollars to investigate a $250,000 land investment? Then have Willy impeached for lying about a BJ, knowing they couldn't get him out of office. It is even better than the Scooter Libby BS.
So then you really don't disagree with the list?
You call this agreeing with you?
Good one, who wrote that budget again?
You play the same tired shit over and over. The good stuff is always the Repugs and the bad stuff is the Dems. Tired.
Who spilled political blood on that budget?
Who?
Who vetoed that budget on at least one occasion?
Better question why was it vetoed?
Who actually shut down the government on that budget? saying he had to protect Americans!
Shut down the Government? Which services were effected by that shut down? Did they stop sending you your welfare check?
After failing to regain Congress in 1996, who actually finally signed that budget?
The Repug Pres. Slick Willy.
What party voted for that budget in Congress?
Hmmm....So were things good or bad under Reagan in your opinion?
What party opposed that budget in Congress?
There is only 1 party.
After that budget was a great success, who began calling it "his budget" and "his surplus".
Slick Willy again. The guy who won the election by moving so far to the center he was on the right side of the line. The Repugs got exactly what they wanted and hated him for it.
What party's Senators starting taking credit for a surplus created by a budget they voted against?
The propaganda machine is amazing. You do your best to be part of it Willie.
It was Newt's budget, Newt's Congress, Newt's blood and Newt stuffed it down Bubba's throat. A conservative's budget from tax cuts to spending. W only got half of it right.
Now I got it so all the budget success's we are having now are from the current congress.
Good one, who wrote that budget again?
You play the same tired shit over and over. The good stuff is always the Repugs and the bad stuff is the Dems. Tired.
Who spilled political blood on that budget?
Who?
Who vetoed that budget on at least one occasion?
Better question why was it vetoed?
Who actually shut down the government on that budget? saying he had to protect Americans!
Shut down the Government? Which services were effected by that shut down? Did they stop sending you your welfare check?
After failing to regain Congress in 1996, who actually finally signed that budget?
The Repug Pres. Slick Willy.
What party voted for that budget in Congress?
Hmmm....So were things good or bad under Reagan in your opinion?
What party opposed that budget in Congress?
There is only 1 party.
After that budget was a great success, who began calling it "his budget" and "his surplus".
Slick Willy again. The guy who won the election by moving so far to the center he was on the right side of the line. The Repugs got exactly what they wanted and hated him for it.
What party's Senators starting taking credit for a surplus created by a budget they voted against?
The propaganda machine is amazing. You do your best to be part of it Willie.
It was Newt's budget, Newt's Congress, Newt's blood and Newt stuffed it down Bubba's throat. A conservative's budget from tax cuts to spending. W only got half of it right.
Now I got it so all the budget success's we are having now are from the current congress.
This is bordering comedy central.
The US economy is stronger than any in the world, bar none. Have you checked the stock market lately? How about all the building going on around the country. Basically "ZERO" unemployment, with 15-20 million illegals here. Is there another country people are flocking to? The propaganda some of you fall for is scarey.
The US economy is stronger than any in the world, bar none. Have you checked the stock market lately? How about all the building going on around the country. Basically "ZERO" unemployment, with 15-20 million illegals here. Is there another country people are flocking to? The propaganda some of you fall for is scarey.
" Patriotism as our Founding Fathers understood it was not pride in the land in a nationalistic sense. The foundation of American patriotism rests firmly on our ideals. It is what we believe about the relationship between people and their government that makes America different from the citizens of other nations. Upholding the ideals that our Founders set forth in the Declaration and protected in our Constitution means that we as citizens have a responsibility to hold our elected and appointed officials accountable to the Declaration and Constitution.
By this standard, patriotism could be better measured by our understanding of core founding principles and our willingness to defend them against all enemies, foreign and domestic, including those who hold elected or appointed office, whether they are Democrats or Republicans. This requires a different kind of patriotism in that it also requires citizens to be educated and engaged.
Patriotism must be based on a love for the ideals and principles upon which America was founded. The essence of America is that we are a nation of ideals, of free people and free markets, of people committed to the idea that we are all created equal with unalienable rights endowed to us by our Creator.
Moreover, America was founded on the ideal that the only legitimate role of government is to protect those rights within the limited powers granted to it by the people. In this regard, we are different from any other nation in the history of the world. Consequently, our view of what it means to be a patriot is different that any other nation in the world "
It seems American Patriotism has been very lacking lately among many in the States .
By this standard, patriotism could be better measured by our understanding of core founding principles and our willingness to defend them against all enemies, foreign and domestic, including those who hold elected or appointed office, whether they are Democrats or Republicans. This requires a different kind of patriotism in that it also requires citizens to be educated and engaged.
Patriotism must be based on a love for the ideals and principles upon which America was founded. The essence of America is that we are a nation of ideals, of free people and free markets, of people committed to the idea that we are all created equal with unalienable rights endowed to us by our Creator.
Moreover, America was founded on the ideal that the only legitimate role of government is to protect those rights within the limited powers granted to it by the people. In this regard, we are different from any other nation in the history of the world. Consequently, our view of what it means to be a patriot is different that any other nation in the world "
It seems American Patriotism has been very lacking lately among many in the States .
Not sure how I missed your post but I would have been al over this earlier. For your information Reagan only cut taxes in '81 & '88. The budget fro '86 lead to a net tax increase. Get you facts straight. Six out of eight years Ronnie raised taxes. One of those tax increase which I believe was in '82 was equal to 1% of the GDP which if this Congress did it it would be a $1 Billion dollar increase. There was also a Social Security increase with a by 1990 I believe those tax increases were like $150 Billion dollars since none of those increases were rolled back and still in effect. That was like close to 3% of the GDP at the time.
Mi playito amigo needs to go back to class.
The one thing all this spending did do was force the USSR into changing the way the did things. Luckily Gorbachev(sp.) was in office and fell for the trap and spent his country into bankrutcy. Go figure now Moscow is the most expensive city in the world to live.
Anything else you need an education on sonny?
So what party supported the 1997 Balanced Budget Act
Liberals outraged at proposal for tax cuts.(A)
<dl class="byline"><dt class="first">From:</dt><dd> The Washington Times </dd><dt>Date:</dt><dd> May 2, 1997 </dd><dt>Author:</dt><dd>Roman, Nancy E.</dd><dt>More results for:</dt><dd> who wrote the 1997 budget </dd></dl>
Democratic divisions were on display on Capitol Hill yesterday as House Minority Leader Richard A. Gephardt led a chorus of liberal Democrats railing against the proposed balanced-budget deal President Clinton struck with GOP congressional leaders.
Some 110 House Democrats, led by Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, fired off a letter to Mr. Clinton urging him not to support the tax cuts that reportedly are part of the deal.
"Administration officials have assured us that your goal is to reach a budget agreement that will have the support of a majority of the Democratic ...
Liberals outraged at proposal for tax cuts.(A)
<dl class="byline"><dt class="first">From:</dt><dd> The Washington Times </dd><dt>Date:</dt><dd> May 2, 1997 </dd><dt>Author:</dt><dd>Roman, Nancy E.</dd><dt>More results for:</dt><dd> who wrote the 1997 budget </dd></dl>
Democratic divisions were on display on Capitol Hill yesterday as House Minority Leader Richard A. Gephardt led a chorus of liberal Democrats railing against the proposed balanced-budget deal President Clinton struck with GOP congressional leaders.
Some 110 House Democrats, led by Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, fired off a letter to Mr. Clinton urging him not to support the tax cuts that reportedly are part of the deal.
"Administration officials have assured us that your goal is to reach a budget agreement that will have the support of a majority of the Democratic ...
What party voted for the Balance Budget Act of 1997?
Totals & Party Breakdown
<table style="margin-bottom: 1em; font-size: 95%;"><tbody><tr><th>
</th><th colspan="3">Total</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Democrat</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Republican</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Independent</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">Ayes:</td><td>270</td><td>(62%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">40</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">172</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">Nays:</td><td>162</td><td>(37%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">129</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">5</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">1</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">No Vote:</td><td>3</td><td>(1%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">1</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeff"><td colspan="7">Required: Simple Majority of 432 votes</td></tr></tbody></table>
The surplus' you referred to would not exist with just Democrats voting.
Totals & Party Breakdown
<table style="margin-bottom: 1em; font-size: 95%;"><tbody><tr><th>
</th><th colspan="3">Total</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Democrat</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Republican</th><th style="padding: 3px; font-size: 90%;">Independent</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">Ayes:</td><td>270</td><td>(62%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">40</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">172</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">Nays:</td><td>162</td><td>(37%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">129</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">5</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">1</td></tr><tr><td style="text-align: right; padding-right: 1em;">No Vote:</td><td>3</td><td>(1%)</td><td style="padding-right: 2em;">
</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">1</td><td style="text-align: center; font-size: 90%;">0</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeff"><td colspan="7">Required: Simple Majority of 432 votes</td></tr></tbody></table>
The surplus' you referred to would not exist with just Democrats voting.
