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really not trying to fuel this fire, but why does it matter if it's a choice or not...? i'm just wondering why that's always part of this argument.
 

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really not trying to fuel this fire, but why does it matter if it's a choice or not...? i'm just wondering why that's always part of this argument.

Christianity condemns homosexuality. Therefore, in the mind of a good Christian, homosexuality must be a choice because god would not create an individual to be this way.
 
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Christianity condemns homosexuality. Therefore, in the mind of a good Christian, homosexuality must be a choice because god would not create an individual to be this way.

For those that affirm homosexuality, it must not be a choice, because then the gays would be responsible for their behavior. AND, there would validity to the
multitude of cases where people choose to leave the lifestyle.
 

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For those that affirm homosexuality, it must not be a choice, because then the gays would be responsible for their behavior. AND, there would validity to the
multitude of cases where people choose to leave the lifestyle.

this is actually why I asked - it seems like an odd argument to get into if you're accepting of homosexuals. if you're accepting, who cares how/why they are homosexual...
 

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Why would anyone choose to be gay? So they can enjoy the intolerance and hate-speak of all the ignorance who condemn them? It is not an easy life. It would be easier for people to just be straight if it all came down to choice. People have certain proclivities for whatever reason and some those proclivities can be an attraction to the same sex. It's not as though they are making an intellectual choice between straight and gay, they feel what they feel.
 

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Why would anyone choose to be gay? So they can enjoy the intolerance and hate-speak of all the ignorance who condemn them? It is not an easy life. It would be easier for people to just be straight if it all came down to choice. People have certain proclivities for whatever reason and some those proclivities can be an attraction to the same sex. It's not as though they are making an intellectual choice between straight and gay, they feel what they feel.

U have to be so twisted in a religous cult to think that homosexuality is not genetic - I just can't see my cock getting hard if it's staring straight ahead at a hairy ass with a couple of balls hanging down - that's biological and not a choice
 
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U have to be so twisted in a religous cult to think that homosexuality is not genetic - I just can't see my cock getting hard if it's staring straight ahead at a hairy ass with a couple of balls hanging down - that's biological and not a choice

If homosexuality was genetic, all identical twins would have the same sexuality. Too bad that's not even close to being true.
 
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U have to be so twisted in a religous cult to think that homosexuality is not genetic - I just can't see my cock getting hard if it's staring straight ahead at a hairy ass with a couple of balls hanging down - that's biological and not a choice

Hmm... So I guess all the licensed therapists in NARTH (National Association for Research and Therapy for Homosexuality) are in a religious cult?

Bzzzzt.

http://www.narth.com/
 

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Fezz, ur just so wrong here - I know hundreds of fags - good friends too - they all will tell u as little kids they had crushes on other boys - just like u probably had a crush on a girl when u were 10 or so - let me some it up - I will use u rather than me - FEZZ's DICK WILL NOT GET HARD IF ANOTHER MAN GETS ON ALL FOUR - u have no choice - biologically this is not arousing to u - now if a 25 year old Carmen Electra gets on all 4 ur cock will get hard - what don't u understand???
 

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WTF is NARTH??? I would imagine two people on these forums ever even heard of NARTH and the other person is Railbird - come on man - lose the religious undertones
 
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Fezz, ur just so wrong here - I know hundreds of fags - good friends too - they all will tell u as little kids they had crushes on other boys - just like u probably had a crush on a girl when u were 10 or so - let me some it up - I will use u rather than me - FEZZ's DICK WILL NOT GET HARD IF ANOTHER MAN GETS ON ALL FOUR - u have no choice - biologically this is not arousing to u - now if a 25 year old Carmen Electra gets on all 4 ur cock will get hard - what don't u understand???

Seymour, it's not a matter of me being right or wrong. The psycho-therapy
community is an agreement that there are clearly non-genetic factors when it
comes to homosexuality, there is no disputing this.

Hell, the first statement on the wiki page on it says that scientists really
don't know WTF causes it:

Biology and sexual orientation is the subject of research into the role of biology in the development of human sexual orientation. No simple, single cause for sexual orientation has been conclusively demonstrated, but research suggests that it is by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
 

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festeringzit, you can't admit to yourself that most gay people are born that way because it contradicts your religious beliefs. You can't understand why God would make someone gay.

Just do yourself a favor and ditch religion altogether. Everything will make much more sense. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would believe in what's essentially a Santa Claus for adults.

Hard to argue with much of anything in the above post
 

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