Heres a question, was there a live communication from the moon, or space machine, to the communications center?
Now, if there was, please tell me how that was possible, back then,
We knw that in todays age, you need a unch of cell towers to communicate properly, from state to state etc, ho far can we communicate from earth. Thats the first queesion,
then the second is, I remember seeing this Fox report a few years ago about a possible fake ness of the moon landing, and it caught my attention, now, If they landed on the moon, what about the flying flag, the shadows or lack there of, the mchine we see, is that really the machine they used to land on the moon??
Now, if there was, please tell me how that was possible, back then,
We knw that in todays age, you need a unch of cell towers to communicate properly, from state to state etc, ho far can we communicate from earth. Thats the first queesion,
then the second is, I remember seeing this Fox report a few years ago about a possible fake ness of the moon landing, and it caught my attention, now, If they landed on the moon, what about the flying flag, the shadows or lack there of, the mchine we see, is that really the machine they used to land on the moon??
I remember reading in the LA times the following day of the moon landing, " As every school children knows", (I added the As every...)there is no atmosphere on the moon and thus no wind. So in order to give the illusion of a fluttering flag, NASA constructed a special flag with wires embedded.
This was common knowledge and I remember some kid talking about it on show and tell the next morning at school.
Funny how now years later, the fluttering flag has become the symbol for uneducated conspiracy theorists.
furthermore the SETI project is listening to radio signals from much much further away
of course that with the Earths rotation and all that, there was the need for multiple radio stations on Earth, which is of course the same stuff being used nowdays......when the shuttle orbits the Earth
Holy fuck it just keeps getting worse in this thread. Seriously, maybe we'd be doing the universe a favor if a big fucking comet took us all out. Jesus Christ.
Another example of the laziness that wolfie was referring to and people saying, "I don't understand how it happened so it must have been fake."
Here's your answer that you could have found yourself with 3 seconds of Googling:
You can go here: http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/station/technical.html to read all about how they communicated with each other and you'll find that it really was very easy. Learn how radio waves work, for chrissakes. Somehow I doubt you'll take the time to educate yourself because it's so much easier to sit in your chair with a mouthful of Doritos and second guess those who dedicated their lives to human beings travelling to outer space.
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no, not really
you would have to be an engineer (of the era) to propose that it was NOT and then provide evidence to that effect, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim
landing on the moon was a great achievement in many fields but to suggest that simply because the computers of the era were primitive to what we have now and that THAT is 'proof' that it was 'impossible'....is simply not sound logic (on similar 'logic' you could say that because Lindberg plane was primitive compared to a boeing 777 it is impossible do a transatlantic crossing)
also its not valid for everyone to say "I don't believe it, I just don't" simply because someone felt like it.
btw for the ones that like to research/read more (on top of the book I already posted...) here
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/21/0142234 (note added by me, what happens when your computer has very little memory and speed.....you write GREAT and OPTIMIZED code .....what happens when you can get a computer with gazillion gigs of memory and dual cores etc.......well you get vista
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13233793&clienttype=printable
Long-Lost Footage of Apollo 11 Mission Surfaces
Lost for decades and found badly damaged, the footage offers a brief glimpse of Neil Armstrong's historic moonwalk.
Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:00 PM ET | content provided by AFP
Long-lost footage of Neil Armstrong descending the ladder of the Apollo 11 lunar module will be screened in public for the first time in Sydney next week, a prominent astronomer told AFP.
The footage runs for a few minutes and is considered to be some of the best footage of the historic 1969 moonwalk, but the film was lost in archives for many years and was badly damaged when found, said John Sarkissian.
It depicts the first few minutes of Armstrong's descent which was recorded in Australia as NASA was still scrambling for a signal, showing a far clearer image than was initially screened worldwide.
Telescopes in remote Australia played a key role in the Apollo 11 mission, including provision of the television signal, after Armstrong decided to attempt the moonwalk early, putting the United States just beyond the horizon.
Sarkissian -- historian and astronomer in charge of the Australian side of the recordings restoration project -- said the unseen minutes were the "best quality of Armstrong descending the ladder." "NASA were using the Goldstone (California) station signal, which had its settings wrong, but in the signals being received by the Australian stations you can actually see Armstrong," he said. "In what people have seen before you can barely see Armstrong at all, you can see something black -- that was his leg."
The segment which runs for "just a few minutes" will be screened at the awards night of Australian Geographic magazine next Wednesday, at which Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin will be the chief guest.
"When we heard Buzz was going to be the guest of honor we thought 'what a great opportunity'," Sarkissian said.
The Armstrong footage, which has only previously been seen by Apollo veterans and other members of the astronomy community, would form part of a highlights reel of restored, digitized moonwalk footage at the awards, he added.
There was a "long detective story" involved in the search for the footage and Sarkissian said it took painstaking frame by frame work to shift the material from the deteriorating black and white film to digital format.
"It was very damaged tape as well, that segment of Armstrong at the beginning," he said.
Digitizing the recording was "significant in the space flight history context" allowing it to be preserved and copied for future generations, said Sarkissian.
Long-Lost Footage of Apollo 11 Mission Surfaces
Lost for decades and found badly damaged, the footage offers a brief glimpse of Neil Armstrong's historic moonwalk.
Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:00 PM ET | content provided by AFP
Long-lost footage of Neil Armstrong descending the ladder of the Apollo 11 lunar module will be screened in public for the first time in Sydney next week, a prominent astronomer told AFP.
The footage runs for a few minutes and is considered to be some of the best footage of the historic 1969 moonwalk, but the film was lost in archives for many years and was badly damaged when found, said John Sarkissian.
It depicts the first few minutes of Armstrong's descent which was recorded in Australia as NASA was still scrambling for a signal, showing a far clearer image than was initially screened worldwide.
Telescopes in remote Australia played a key role in the Apollo 11 mission, including provision of the television signal, after Armstrong decided to attempt the moonwalk early, putting the United States just beyond the horizon.
Sarkissian -- historian and astronomer in charge of the Australian side of the recordings restoration project -- said the unseen minutes were the "best quality of Armstrong descending the ladder." "NASA were using the Goldstone (California) station signal, which had its settings wrong, but in the signals being received by the Australian stations you can actually see Armstrong," he said. "In what people have seen before you can barely see Armstrong at all, you can see something black -- that was his leg."
The segment which runs for "just a few minutes" will be screened at the awards night of Australian Geographic magazine next Wednesday, at which Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin will be the chief guest.
"When we heard Buzz was going to be the guest of honor we thought 'what a great opportunity'," Sarkissian said.
The Armstrong footage, which has only previously been seen by Apollo veterans and other members of the astronomy community, would form part of a highlights reel of restored, digitized moonwalk footage at the awards, he added.
There was a "long detective story" involved in the search for the footage and Sarkissian said it took painstaking frame by frame work to shift the material from the deteriorating black and white film to digital format.
"It was very damaged tape as well, that segment of Armstrong at the beginning," he said.
Digitizing the recording was "significant in the space flight history context" allowing it to be preserved and copied for future generations, said Sarkissian.
