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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Railbird:
no one when you get close to the bonus Max, there is bout 200-300 guys who do this full time around Vegas and about 1000 around the country and in Indian reservations, AC, etc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dont know if you realized it Rail, but yours trully is one of these few. There are well over 200 of these type of machines.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by max1234:
I heard a story about Benny Binion that went like this... his keno pit got hit twice in one day for $25,000 payouts.He fired the whole crew because he didn't know how he'd gotten screwed but he knew he had been cheated by his own people.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Having worked as a "Key Man" AT Binions, I can tell you that the story is absolutely true.

Ted Binion would later do the same thing.
 

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If you can find one of the few machines that are programmed to return 100% in LV casinos you can earn comps plus a +EV. Free rooms, dinners, drinks and a 100% return of your gambling dollars aint a bad way to go. Finding these machines without inside info is difficult and may end up costing you a small fortune trying to find one.
 

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Strut- You and I(AND OBVIOUSLY RAIL) know what goes on but it is hard to educate people who know it all. I don't know why the fvck I even attempt to do it sometimes. NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF IT FOR ME,YOU,RAIL, OR ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK.
 

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Virtually anything can be beat using a non obvious long term strategy. But you must have "insider trading" type information and know something well above and beyond the general public. Scalping, bonus whoring and other things are the obvious ways but many people know many things that 99.999999999% of the world doesn't and if they can utilize them more power to them. It is the power of capitalism.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by krackman:
Strut- You and I(AND OBVIOUSLY RAIL) know what goes on but it is hard to educate people who know it all. I don't know why the fvck I even attempt to do it sometimes. NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF IT FOR ME,YOU,RAIL, OR ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are correct sir!
 

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I am done weisenheimering folks up, everyone is ungratefull anyway.
 

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The only winners in slots are the guys using hand made electronic devices to rig machines. I believe they cost about 50 Dimes but well worth it in the long run. I think the guy I know must use one of these.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The only winners in slots are the guys using hand made electronic devices to rig machines. I believe they cost about 50 Dimes but well worth it in the long run. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually there are many methods to cheat the machines and very few cost much money. As a "Key Man" in a busy Las Vegas casino I've seen many many methods employed. Almost all with success.

Some of the most common involve simple tricks such as yo-yo-ing. Yes, coins on string. This method actually works (on some machines better than others). I can't tell you how many strings I've had to unjam from the coin mechanism as most yo-yo's inevitably break.

There's also the use of a long necked penlight that can be found in almost any hardware store.
When a hopper is spitting out coins there is a light sensor that each coin passes in front of. This is how the machine keeps count of the coins coming out. If a person won a $20 jackpot then after $20 worth of light sensor clicks the hopper motor gets the signal to stop spitting coins. The person with the penlight inserts it where the coins fall out and aim it at the sensor. When even the smallest jackpot is hit (cherries for example) the hopper motor start up. Without the increments of darkness which the penlight has now taken away the hopper motor thinks it hasn't spit any coins out. The hopper is of course spitting coins out. When all the coins empty out of the hopper. The cheater will pull the penlight out, fill his bucket with his "winnings" and move onto the next machine.

Another VERY popular method in Vegas is lead slugs. Again, I can't tell you how many times I'd go to empty a machine indicating it's full, just to find a hopper full of slugs. Of course by this time, the slug player is long gone.

Some of the most effective schemes involve "inside help". These schemes usually involve two people and they almost never get caught.

For instance, a Key Man goes to help an old lady who's machine is "jammed" or who's coins got stuck or what have you. A very very common scene in Vegas.

When the "key man" opens the door of the machine for the old lady (who is actually in partnership in the scheme), the "key man" not only clears the jam but also attaches two wires (using alligator clips) to the hopper motor. One to the positive lead and one to the negative.

The "key man" then shuts the door of the machine with the two exposed wires protruding from the bottom of the door.

The old lady thanks the "key man" for doing his job and the "key man" walks away.

The old lady take the two leads and attaches the ends to a 9v battery in her purse (which is ALWAYS on her lap). The hopper motor starts up and keeps on going until empty. At this time the old lady alerts the "key man" that her machine is empty. The "key man" opens the door of the machine, removes the wires off the hopper motor, radio's to the money room that machine number so and so needs a refill, shuts the door and goes about his way. When the coins arrive the "key man" opens the door and refills the machine. The old lady thanks him again (maybe even tips him!), and the "key man" goes on his way.



Btw, as far as some machines paying much better than the others?

It's true, but those machines are almost alway occupied by the house "shills". You can tell the shills by the way they scream and carry on after every jackpot. Even the smallest ones.

Enjoy.
 

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sportsadvisory great informative post

That is the only way slots can be beat.
 

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Few things -

Rail, you are wrong on who wrote that book.
It wasn't Tuna.

JJ, you are so clueless on so many topics
you spout off on that it's embarrassing to
even read what you post sometimes.

Strut is right. The machines are out there
if you know what to look for. Strut and I
have both made some nice coin but the glory
days were a few years back. It was a lot
easier back then. Now, competition everywhere
and the machines are fewer.
 

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I haven't messed with those kind of machines in two years myself. Asian mob scene now.
 

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Know one wins at slots unless there is some generous bonus program but then again that is not winning that is charity money.
 

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I have to hop on this discussion merely out of curiosity.....I know very little about slots except that I put my money in, in EATS it, and I walk away shaking my head 9/10 times.
What is the scoop on these guys who promote "How to beat the slots" in book/video form? Someone here MYUSt have seen these and have the bottom line. Anyone willing to share it? What do you look for in a good machine. I am not talking about running off to Vegas - just a simple charity casino down the street. HOW can I take my wife there for an evening of fun and actually NOT lose my shirt in 15 mins!!!! lol
thanks all

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In its simple form, I would agree. However, slots are merely mechanical devices. I would assumethat there are subtle indicators that could lead to you choosing a better machine. I have heard many guys tell me that Roulette is for suckers too. lol How wrong they are. So as a slot noob, I figure that there ARE a handful of people out there who know morethan the masses. Are there?

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