Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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The players criticize the thoroughness of the Freeh report because the investigators did not interview many of the central people in the case, including Paterno, who died in January, Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz, who are both awaiting trial on charges of perjury and failure to report suspected child abuse, and former assistant coach Mike McQueary, who was a key witness in the case against Sandusky.

Don't understand how they can criticize the Freeh report about this because it did not interview these people. All of these people have legal representation and are currently being prosecuted or could be held civily liable in the future. Any lawyer worth a grain of salt would never permit their clients to answer questions by private investigators if their answers could potentially be used against them in a future criminal/civil lawsuit.
 

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I think we all had enough of this garbage,..lets forget about this garbage school already.....penn st is marked forever and rightly so......they suck,and are a worthless school....screw all these people trying to back them up
 
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I think we all had enough of this garbage,..lets forget about this garbage school already.....penn st is marked forever and rightly so......they suck,and are a worthless school....screw all these people trying to back them up

I understand how you feel, but I disagree with this. The school itself was not to blame for this. It was the people in charge and mainly the ones connected with the football program. That's the worst part of this whole thing. The ones(other than the victims) who really get hurt the most from all this are the ones who had nothing to do with it. The students, professors, surrounding businesses are all being affected by this and they did absolutely nothing wrong. Most of the students at Penn St(or any college) go there for the academics, not for football. And I'm sure Penn St. has a fine academic program. They should be given the opportunity to try and keep that program where it is and build on it. But of course that will be difficult as I'm sure there are many who feel exactly how you do.
 

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Those people were interviewed by a grand jury. What more interviewing do these dolts need? All the Penn St. ball lickers need to go home and accept the facts...

The facts being Joe Pa, Shultz, Curley, Spanier, and every person connected to the football program or in that building knew what was going on and did NOTHING to stop it...

Those are the facts... Franco Harris, the Paterno family, and all the other boot lickers at Penn St. need to get a grip and see the truth...

These people are delusional and making themselves and the university look worse and worse every day...

What I really want to know is where the hell is the DA that disappeared? Something is fishy in State College but that whole scenario is being kept quiet for some reason
Lots of shady happenings in State College... It's like a damn cult there with how people act about the school...
 
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^Agree with you 100%

Unfortunatley a few will continue to defend Penn St., it's officials and the DA at the time who did nothing.
He was a school employee that was showering with boys but that was ok with these folks.

Its very very sad :(
 

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^Agree with you 100%

Unfortunatley a few will continue to defend Penn St., it's officials and the DA at the time who did nothing.
He was a school employee that was showering with boys but that was ok with these folks.

Its very very sad :(

Sandusky retired from coaching in 1999 and was not a school employee after the 1998 incident and subsequent decision not to press charges against him by the District Attorney.
 

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Those people were interviewed by a grand jury. What more interviewing do these dolts need? All the Penn St. ball lickers need to go home and accept the facts...

The facts being Joe Pa, Shultz, Curley, Spanier, and every person connected to the football program or in that building knew what was going on and did NOTHING to stop it...

Those are the facts... Franco Harris, the Paterno family, and all the other boot lickers at Penn St. need to get a grip and see the truth...

These people are delusional and making themselves and the university look worse and worse every day...

What I really want to know is where the hell is the DA that disappeared? Something is fishy in State College but that whole scenario is being kept quiet for some reason
Lots of shady happenings in State College... It's like a damn cult there with how people act about the school...

You make a great point THAWK but that's what F. Harris and many others are saying. Without these critical interviews, many think the report will never be a complete analysis of the case. Don't blame the guys for not talking but the report won't be complete.
 

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Yet was allowed to continue to use the showers with young boys.

"How" is the question. "I don't know" is the answer. Unreal.

But the answer to THAT question is the key to the whole case.

You don't need the Freeh report to draw the reasonable conclusion that Joe Pa knew that was happening. He may not have known he was abusing them there but he must have known they were there, it would be naive to think he didn't.

That's why his reputation is in tatters and why the Freeh Report is redundant to all - except to those in denial like Franco Harris and the Paterno family, who blindly cling on to one last opportunity to apportion blame elsewhere.

The public don't buy it, and rightly so.
 

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You make a great point THAWK but that's what F. Harris and many others are saying. Without these critical interviews, many think the report will never be a complete analysis of the case. Don't blame the guys for not talking but the report won't be complete.

You have got to be kidding!!! Are you part of the Penn St. cult???!!!

The questions have been answered by the grand jury.

Did you read the Freeh report or do you just defend blindly???

It's all there and if you, Franco, the Parterno family, and every Penn St. ball lapper read it it would be crystal clear..

Sorry Enfuego but your credibility is taking a beating with this thread...

Use some critical thinking and fact finding and you shall be set free.

I deal in facts, they speak for themselves in this case
 

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You have got to be kidding!!! Are you part of the Penn St. cult???!!!

The questions have been answered by the grand jury.

Did you read the Freeh report or do you just defend blindly???

It's all there and if you, Franco, the Parterno family, and every Penn St. ball lapper read it it would be crystal clear..

Sorry Enfuego but your credibility is taking a beating with this thread...

Use some critical thinking and fact finding and you shall be set free.

I deal in facts, they speak for themselves in this case

Provide me facts from the report not conjecture/opinions/guesses that clearly show that Joe Paterno hid this abuse or covered up the abuse from authorities. A simple quote and page number will do.

Neglectful and an idiot sure but nothing was hidden by Joe Paterno. Remember, if you cannot provide a fact but claim you know what happened, your credibility will be in question.
 

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Come on Enfugo.
 
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Joe Pa didn't rape those boys...the old man just made some bad decisions that will haunt his family for years to come...

Penn State is and will forever be a great University of academic excellence and its students will go on and lead productive lives....

Joe's judgement in error(and yes it was a grave one) will overshadow all the good he has ever done at Happy Valley...I voted to keep the statue around, but I can see why others voted the other way....

I hope the judicial system will take care of the scumbag who started all this mess and I hope the government goes after the Catholic Church with the fever that it did with Penn State...but I wouldn't hold my breath...

Sandusky should rot in hell....
 
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Enfuego has a right to his opinons....

Nobody here is defending Sandusky, some of you have missed the point...
 

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Come on Enfugo.

You can provide me definitive proof Paterno covered up anything as well if you want Chop. A witness that testified Joe Paterno told investigators Sandusky didn't work out in the Lasch Building or an investigator that testified Joe Paterno told him he didn't have a conversation with Mike McQueary about the 2001 incident will do.

Whatever you have that shows he hindered an investigation in any way or told staff members or coaches to keep their mouths shut about any allegation of sexual abuse will work as well.

Anything like that will prove your point Chop.
 

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Joe Pa didn't rape those boys...the old man just made some bad decisions that will haunt his family for years to come...

Penn State is and will forever be a great University of academic excellence and its students will go on and lead productive lives....

Joe's judgement in error(and yes it was a grave one) will overshadow all the good he has ever done at Happy Valley...I voted to keep the statue around, but I can see why others voted the other way....

I hope the judicial system will take care of the scumbag who started all this mess and I hope the government goes after the Catholic Church with the fever that it did with Penn State...but I wouldn't hold my breath...

Sandusky should rot in hell....

I agree 100% VIEJO and appreciate your comments. I would never in 100 years defend Sandusky or support Paterno's non actions during this entire ordeal. You're right, some have missed the point.
 
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Business Law 101

My teacher used to say in class all the time when analyzing a case. 1. "What's the issue?" 2. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."
 

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"Joe Pa didn't rape those boys...the old man just made some bad decisions"

No, he just allowed them to be raped......so he gets a pass.
 
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Joe Pa didn't rape those boys...the old man just made some bad decisions
Like reporting the incident to the executive offices at Penn State, instead of going directly to the police...

Graham Spanier, the president of the Penn State University, whom would have been personally responsible for making the decision to "keep it quiet" will not be on trial any time soon. He is currently shining a seat with his ass in Washington DC
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-is-a-mystery/2012/07/26/gJQAbAx5BX_blog.html
 

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