Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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He didn't tell them not to alert authorities...but he also didn't tell them to alert authorities - see where this is going? Yes, you are right, he did nothing/not enough. Therefore, he was an ENABLER, if you aren't preventing it or stopping the guy you are enabling it...which is practically as bad as doing it yourself. Joe Pa ran that place...say what you will about the AD, President, etc...everyone knows who really ran that place. He could of had Sandusky fired, whacked, whatever he wanted with a snap of his fingers back in 98, but the guy was like a brother to him. He defended his brother and his legacy to the very end and it is going to wind up costing him everything - of course he is dead now...so it will be PSU that is destroyed...but that is fitting seeing as how Joe Pa WAS PSU.
everything you say here is true and it is so very sad that when it came to a real test of character,paterno failed the test. he showed us who he really was. what a fkn ego.he thought he was more important than those innocent little boys. he missed a real opportunity to stand up and be somebody.
 

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In the end, people are being charged in court and Joe Paterno would not have been charged.

Paterno would almost certainly have been charged and very well could have been looking at jail time.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ts-say-joe-paterno-faced-charges-freeh-report

Duquesne law professor Wes Oliver said the report by former FBI director Louis Freeh reads like a prosecution case for a child endangerment charge against Paterno, then-president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and now-retired vice president Gary Schultz. Oliver noted that a former top official in the Philadelphia Archdiocese was convicted of that very charge in June for allowing a suspected pedophile priest to be around children.

"If you look at what happened here, it's very clear that they were aware that they had a pedophile on their campus," Oliver said.​
 

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It's also worth noting that the Freeh report -- compiled by a former head of the FBI -- specifically noted "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse."

At the press conference at the release of the report, Freeh himself spelled it out even more clearly, saying Paterno "was an integral part of this active decision to conceal."
 

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Damn right he would have been charged. The DA didn't have enough on him the first time around. Not so this time. Paterno knew all of this was coming down. His official cause of death may have been lung cancer. But I think he died of shame. Hitler and bin Laden are going to be fighting over his asshole in hell. And Sandusky is on his way there.
 

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He didn't tell them not to alert authorities...but he also didn't tell them to alert authorities - see where this is going? Yes, you are right, he did nothing/not enough. Therefore, he was an ENABLER, if you aren't preventing it or stopping the guy you are enabling it...which is practically as bad as doing it yourself. Joe Pa ran that place...say what you will about the AD, President, etc...everyone knows who really ran that place. He could of had Sandusky fired, whacked, whatever he wanted with a snap of his fingers back in 98, but the guy was like a brother to him. He defended his brother and his legacy to the very end and it is going to wind up costing him everything - of course he is dead now...so it will be PSU that is destroyed...but that is fitting seeing as how Joe Pa WAS PSU.

Agree 100%.
 

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but he did not cover it up. That makes it ok. LOL

You keep saying this like I've said anything he did is ok. You even added a quote from me that wasn't actually my quote.

Why do you keep saying that because I say he didn't cover it up that makes it ok? I've never said that.
 

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Damn right he would have been charged. The DA didn't have enough on him the first time around. Not so this time. Paterno knew all of this was coming down. His official cause of death may have been lung cancer. But I think he died of shame. Hitler and bin Laden are going to be fighting over his asshole in hell. And Sandusky is on his way there.

Not true. Paterno, Spanier, Schultz and Curley were all a part of the investigation and the D.A. chose not to charge him. This was a very long and thorough investigation.

The people that conducted the Freeh report had less access than the investigators. Face it, they weren't going to charge him then, now or in the future. According to the D.A., Paterno followed the law. The ethics involved with what he did is very different though.
 

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You keep saying this like I've said anything he did is ok. You even added a quote from me that wasn't actually my quote.

Why do you keep saying that because I say he didn't cover it up that makes it ok? I've never said that.

Well if you think the statue should stay up you must think its ok.
I have no idea what you are saying I quoted that you did not say.
You have to let me know what it was you said I quoted that you did not say.

Anyway the only way someone can say they think the statue should stay around is if that person thinks that what he did was ok.
 

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Well if you think the statue should stay up you must think its ok.
I have no idea what you are saying I quoted that you did not say.
You have to let me know what it was you said I quoted that you did not say.

Anyway the only way someone can say they think the statue should stay around is if that person thinks that what he did was ok.

In post #186 I did not say what you put in quotes.

Again, it's my opinion that the statue should stay. Doesn't mean his ignorance to the situation wasn't wrong in any way.
 

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From www.espn.com posted today.

"The embattled members of Penn State's Board of Trustees quietly have decided to leave Joe Paterno's statue standing -- at least for now and, some hope, forever, according to sources with firsthand knowledge of the trustees' private discussions this week."

I'm sure not all the trustees think what Joe Paterno did was right did they Chop? Obviously if they are keeping the statue up then they must think he did nothing wrong.

No, they are just keeping it up nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Well if you think the statue should stay up you must think its ok.
I have no idea what you are saying I quoted that you did not say.
You have to let me know what it was you said I quoted that you did not say.

Anyway the only way someone can say they think the statue should stay around is if that person thinks that what he did was ok.

Stop telling me what I think.....I think the statue should stay and I don't care what the government thinks...each person should decide for himself what it signifies...I see a man that made some terrible decisions about Sandusky and helped countless athletes and students in their future decisions and I don't have a problem with those who disagree...it is a shame that his legacy will take a beating...most will remember Paterno's bad decisions rather than the monster who abused children and that isn't right..
 

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Stop telling me what I think.....I think the statue should stay and I don't care what the government thinks...each person should decide for himself what it signifies...I see a man that made some terrible decisions about Sandusky and helped countless athletes and students in their future decisions and I don't have a problem with those who disagree...it is a shame that his legacy will take a beating...most will remember Paterno's bad decisions rather than the monster who abused children and that isn't right..

Yeah, it's a shame they will remember Paterno's "bad decisions" to allow his good buddy to run rampant on campus and rape boys because he didn't want bad publicity. Just a "bad decision", that's all...........idiot
 

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Yeah, it's a shame they will remember Paterno's "bad decisions" to allow his good buddy to run rampant on campus and rape boys because he didn't want bad publicity. Just a "bad decision", that's all...........idiot

And you have the page number with a quote from Paterno in the Freeh Report that says he let Sandusky do this for fear of bad publicity? I'll standby for that proof.
 

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Keep your head in the sand

And I'll take this answer as you have no definitive proof and you're just making stuff up. Carry on.

Discussions on these boards involves citing sources and providing proof. Opinions are only that.
 

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In post #186 I did not say what you put in quotes.

Again, it's my opinion that the statue should stay. Doesn't mean his ignorance to the situation wasn't wrong in any way.

I dont know why you say you did not say that.
Post 184 you said what I quoted in post 186
If you did not say that you need to check your house or something. Someone posted that with your handle.
 

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And you have the page number with a quote from Paterno in the Freeh Report that says he let Sandusky do this for fear of bad publicity? I'll standby for that proof.




What other reason would there be that he stood bye and let this monster on campus and keep abusing little boys.

He knew that this guy was a molester.

You look worse and worse with every post. Not sure why you are taking a stand on this. Why would you want a statue of a man that did nothing to help those kids.
 

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And I'll take this answer as you have no definitive proof and you're just making stuff up. Carry on.

Discussions on these boards involves citing sources and providing proof. Opinions are only that.

Inferences and deductions based on logic; something apparently lacking to your way of thinking.
 

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I dont know why you say you did not say that.
Post 184 you said what I quoted in post 186
If you did not say that you need to check your house or something. Someone posted that with your handle.

Quotation marks indicate exactly what someone says.


My sentence in post 184:

“That still doesn't mean he covered it up. An idiot yes but a criminal? No.”


Your sentence that you claim I said with quotes in post 186:


but he still did not cover it up so he is ok


Those sentences don't seem to be the same Chop.
 

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