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Not trying to argue with you because it is impossible to say what President Obama does or does not believe, however, he has rarely attended church ( I think it was something like 15-20 times in 5 years) while in office. There was an article in the NYT around Christmas about it. Not saying that means he is or is not a Christian, just giving you the facts.

From my POV, as someone who rarely attends Religious Services, 20 times in 5 years is quite a commitment.:aktion033 His attendance at Religious services while serving as President is kinda meaningless, and worrying about the actual number of times is better left to someone who needs to "connect the dots". He was a member of the same Christain Church for 20 years, that's pretty telling, don't you think.
 
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From my POV, as someone who rarely attends Religious Services, 20 times in 5 years is quite a commitment.:aktion033 His attendance at Religious services while serving as President is kinda meaningless, and worrying about the actual number of times is better left to someone who needs to "connect the dots". He was a member of the same Christain Church for 20 years, that's pretty telling, don't you think.

Valid point.
 

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He admitted he was wrong because he was wrong. He has done it about DOMA, about Parts of Obamacare, etc.

Obama did not admit he was "wrong" about the debt ceiling.

Obama never supported DOMA

Obama has never, ever said he was 'wrong' about any part of ObamaCare.

You are a serial, and bad, liar.
 

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Obama 'admitted' no such thing.

This is just another silly lie you tell yourself in order to rationalize silly political beliefs.
Wrong Way Willie is uncatchable when it comes to being wrong every time, but you are making a valiant attempt. Congrats.

"The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama regrets his vote as a senator in 2006 against raising the debt limit - a vote he's now pressuring Congress to take. Obama "thinks it was a mistake," presidential spokesman Jay Carney told reporters. "He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."
 

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When they belong to the same Church for over 20 years, it's a pretty big clue, don't you think?

No, I don't, but you answered my question with some sound reasoning. We can't prove it either way, so we can agree to disagree.
 

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Keep in mind, the greatest orator since Cicero couldn't bring himself to say it was wrong or a mistake:

Obama: "I think that it's important to understand the vantage point of a senator versus the vantage point of a president. When you're a senator, traditionally what's happened is, this is always a lousy vote. Nobody likes to be tagged as having increased the debt limit - for the United States by a trillion dollars. As president, you start realizing, you know what, we, we can't play around with this stuff. This is the full faith and credit of the United States. And so that was just an example of a new senator making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country. And I'm the first one to acknowledge it."

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Just his lackeys.

Classic.
 

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No, I don't, but you answered my question with some sound reasoning. We can't prove it either way, so we can agree to disagree.

It's not our job to judge who is actually Christian or not. If he says he's a Christian, he's a Christian. Only one real Judge.
 

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1)Obama did not admit he was "wrong" about the debt ceiling.

2)Obama never supported DOMA

3)Obama has never, ever said he was 'wrong' about any part of ObamaCare.

You are a serial, and bad, liar.
1)Already showed he did- Strike 1.
2)http://americablog.com/2009/06/obam...get-invokes-incest-and-marrying-children.html His DOJ actions defended it- Strike 2
3)His actions of delaying things, adjusting things to make them more palatable for People and Businesses show this, even if he isn't saying the words.- Strike 3.
But an idiot like yourself has an unlimited amount of strikes, so you'll keep swinging and missing. Wrong Way is in sight. You'll never catch him, but the attempt is admirable.
 

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Wrong Way Willie is uncatchable when it comes to being wrong every time, but you are making a valiant attempt. Congrats.

"The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama regrets his vote as a senator in 2006 against raising the debt limit - a vote he's now pressuring Congress to take. Obama "thinks it was a mistake," presidential spokesman Jay Carney told reporters. "He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

It took him about two weeks to surpass Willie who has been here for years, lol. Stop beclowning him, he'll get all angry and start making personal insults, lol. Like how he can't even admit he was wrong about the government providing the support and funding for the invention of the Internet. It's hilarious how obsessed they are with hating the government.
 

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It's not our job to judge who is actually Christian or not. If he says he's a Christian, he's a Christian. Only one real Judge.

If he only said he was Christian, with no supporting actions, those thinking he's not might have more of a case. But his actions over his adult life, once he settled in Chicago, show a pretty Strong Christian commitment.
 
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A Differing political opinion has ZERO to do with it. Being a Terrorist Supporting POS is why that particular piece of Human Dung has been correctly called out for what he is, and will continue to be, for a VERY long time, or until the Terrorist Supporting POS Dave apologizes and recants, or if Society gets lucky, G-d intervenes and finishes what he started.

Speaking of terrorist loving pieces of shit. Since Obama has been such good friends with Bill Ayers, who actually is a terrorist, curious why your panties have NEVER been in a wad about that?
 

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Speaking of terrorist loving pieces of shit. Since Obama has been such good friends with Bill Ayers, who actually is a terrorist, curious why your panties have NEVER been in a wad about that?
Bill Ayres was never convicted, nor pled guilty of terrorism, unlike the POS Vermin that Dave supported, and wanted to contribute to her defense fund. Surely you see the difference?
The state of "friendship" between Obama and Bill Ayres has long been in dispute, depending on what propaganda one believes. It's an irrelevant issue, IMO, but the connect the dots crowd thinks they were long time buddies, and I've even seen some wacko theories that Ayres was one of the many who are candidates for being Obama's "real" father.
IF Obama came out in support of Tim McVeigh, for instance, damn straight my panties would be in a wad about it.
 

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Apparently Murph disagrees. I lost my temper on dafinch one time and it wasn't even really that bad compared to the shit that gets thrown around in here. I immediately apologized to the mods to no avail or no follow up explanations. I'm taking this mess all the way to the Supreme Court.

Murph is a pretty sensible guy -- Send him a PM.
 
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“Today’s vote is yet another example that establishment politicians from both parties are simply not listening to the American people.

Outside the beltway, Americans of all political stripes understand that we cannot keep spending money we don’t have.

“Some members of Congress care so much about being praised by the Washington media that they’re willing to mortgage our children’s future. They pretend we don’t have a problem and can just kick the can down the road.

“Let’s be clear about the motive behind this vote — there are too many members of Congress who think they can fool people and they will forget about it the next week. But sometimes, come November, the people remember.”

-- Sen. Ted Cruz

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“Today’s vote is yet another example that establishment politicians from both parties are simply not listening to the American people.

Outside the beltway, Americans of all political stripes understand that we cannot keep spending money we don’t have.

“Some members of Congress care so much about being praised by the Washington media that they’re willing to mortgage our children’s future. They pretend we don’t have a problem and can just kick the can down the road.

“Let’s be clear about the motive behind this vote — there are too many members of Congress who think they can fool people and they will forget about it the next week. But sometimes, come November, the people remember.”

-- Sen. Ted Cruz

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They are listening to the American people. Last time they tried this nonsense the American people spoke and the Republicans ratings plummeted. When Ted Cruz says "the people" he means nutjobs like you, Acebb, Russ, Dave, etc. you guys do not represent the majority. You are actually crazy people and majority of people hate you.
 

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“Today’s vote is yet another example that establishment politicians from both parties are simply not listening to the American people.

Outside the beltway, Americans of all political stripes understand that we cannot keep spending money we don’t have.

“Some members of Congress care so much about being praised by the Washington media that they’re willing to mortgage our children’s future. They pretend we don’t have a problem and can just kick the can down the road.

“Let’s be clear about the motive behind this vote — there are too many members of Congress who think they can fool people and they will forget about it the next week. But sometimes, come November, the people remember.”

-- Sen. Ted Cruz

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As usual, your Countryman, Canadian Ted has is bass ackwards. Today's' vote was precisely because they listened to the people. The vast majority of people Who don't want their Government held hostage and shut down because of a crazy minority of wackadoodles. Teddy is again proving why he is a Democratic Wet dream.
 

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They are listening to the American people. Last time they tried this nonsense the American people spoke and the Republicans ratings plummeted. When Ted Cruz says "the people" he means nutjobs like you, Acebb, Russ, Dave, etc. you guys do not represent the majority. You are actually crazy people and majority of people hate you.

You're about as far wacko left as it gets...and you're pretending to know what the majority want???? :Carcajada:

The majority want fiscally responsible government.

You shouldn't be cheering too loud, this is exactly the kind of thing that gives the Tea Party it's mojo! :103631605
 

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You're about as far wacko left as it gets...and you're pretending to know what the majority want???? :Carcajada:

The majority want fiscally responsible government.

You shouldn't be cheering too loud, this is exactly the kind of thing that gives the Tea Party it's mojo! :103631605
Casper/Sheriff Canadian Joe is not the best gauge of what American people want. This is what he said across the street in October of 2011. He WAS right about Romney being completely unacceptable, however.

"From the very beginning, I said there were four conservative candidates (in alphabetical order): Bachmann, Cain, Palin, Perry

Michelle Bachmann looked good early, but later fizzled. She doesn't connect and should go back to the House.

Herman Cain is kickin' it into another gear.

Sarah Palin isn't running.

Rick Perry is looking like the Tony Romo of politics -- he shits the bed at the most critical point.

I would also add Newt Gingrich to that list because of his new "Contract of America" and the fact he's the most knowledgeable and best debater on stage, hands down. Newt is Captain Republican.

Choosing a nominee for president is like drafting players in sports -- no matter how great the attributes may look on paper, in the end, they still have to perform. Some do, some don't. That's just how it is.

Thus far, Herman has raised the game while the others have not. That's why Herman is surging in the polls and leading the pack. Now with Sarah officially out, I would expect the Cain Train to pick up even more steam as conservatives coalesce around him. At least, I hope that's what happens because Mitt Romney is NOT a conservative and COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!"
 

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