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Redemptions...redemptions...and more redemptions.

Until that happens with the buy and hold mutual fund type of investors, we cannot and will not have a real all points bulletin type bear market.

Read the title of the thread, dammit!

SELL, SELL, SELL!

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as bearish as i am about the overall economy, which has next to nothing with what day-2-day stock market does, I am a bit surprised to see market tanking like today this close to a major holiday.

hopefully its down sharply this week, but im not going to hold my breath waiting for that.

jdog, i agree, but i would not be a buyer of financials quite yet.

id like to see a handful of bank failures and possibly a chapter 11 filing by a large institution like cfc before the best buying opportunity exists.

still hoping we see a single digit price for cfc before todays close.

basehead, do you still own ford shares?

Yes woof I do ,I sold off some when it cracked 9 that I had got at high 6's but I still keep shares for the day when Ford breaks out.Do you still think Ford is destined for failure? All kinds off great potential still.Mullaly has absolutely made me optimistic my patience will pay off.
 

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The subprime mess will affect auto/truck sales just like it has affected home sales and prices.

I still see bankruptcy in Fords' future.

So you basically sold the shares at cost you had bought at 9 prior and are holding the stock you bought when it bottomed in 6's.
 

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Redemptions...redemptions...and more redemptions.

Until that happens with the buy and hold mutual fund type of investors, we cannot and will not have a real all points bulletin type bear market.

Read the title of the thread, dammit!

SELL, SELL, SELL!

:dancefool:dancefool:dancefool


I'm grateful my dad listened to me and put 50% of his 401k into cash a month ago when I told him to. He saved himself a shit load of money, even if the dollar lowers his wealth at the same time. Not many places to hide right now.
 

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I'm grateful my dad listened to me and put 50% of his 401k into cash a month ago when I told him to. He saved himself a shit load of money, even if the dollar lowers his wealth at the same time. Not many places to hide right now.

yeah no where to hide IMO at this point in time unless you are up for shorting

well maybe buying yen but might as well short if you do that although less volitile i suppose

fxy is yen etf 82 to 90.82 ish since july not much fun but...

yen up quite a bit today of course
 

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The subprime mess will affect auto/truck sales just like it has affected home sales and prices.

I still see bankruptcy in Fords' future.

I expected nothing less.

Do you follow Ford at all? What is it that makes you say it,Im curious.Not sure if you respect my opinion but Im interested in why exactly think this?

Maybe Im missing something, but I see a lot more reasons now to be confident than in any of our other conversations.

Bought high 6's, sold low 9's .Is that better? I hold mostly the original purchases and sold the ones I told you I was going to keep buying even as it fell sub 7.

Subprime will bring the bar down across the board but Fords got a decent foothold globally to offset alot of US baggage.
 

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I expected nothing less.

Do you follow Ford at all? What is it that makes you say it,Im curious.Not sure if you respect my opinion but Im interested in why exactly think this?

Maybe Im missing something, but I see a lot more reasons now to be confident than in any of our other conversations.

Bought high 6's, sold low 9's .Is that better? I hold mostly the original purchases and sold the ones I told you I was going to keep buying even as it fell sub 7.

Subprime will bring the bar down across the board but Fords got a decent foothold globally to offset alot of US baggage.

yen for now is the crux of the problem

japan automakers love the artificially low yen prices makes exports cheaper to buy for american's

well consumption will fall off if economy rolls over as well though

those days of 0% down no payments for 48 months just aren't sustainable...plus all the auto's that were bought by tapping home equity and people using their homes like an atm

bulls starting to make a run for 13k again....they haven't given up yet
 

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silver on its way back to the $13's holy shit

no place to hide when everybody starts running

plus in this day an age hedge funds are very involved in the metal and PM markets (which is a very small market relative to the overall market as well)
 

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I expected nothing less.

Do you follow Ford at all? What is it that makes you say it,Im curious.Not sure if you respect my opinion but Im interested in why exactly think this?

Maybe Im missing something, but I see a lot more reasons now to be confident than in any of our other conversations.

Bought high 6's, sold low 9's .Is that better? I hold mostly the original purchases and sold the ones I told you I was going to keep buying even as it fell sub 7.

Subprime will bring the bar down across the board but Fords got a decent foothold globally to offset alot of US baggage.

You posted in the financial forum about buying it in the 6's, but youve also posted here in political about owning and buying the stock in 2005. It was higher than 6 dollar level during that time.

Not a big deal to me, just wanted to know if you still owned the stock.

How about Amgen (amgn)? Do you still own that one?
 

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You posted in the financial forum about buying it in the 6's, but youve also posted here in political about owning and buying the stock in 2005. It was higher than 6 dollar level during that time.

Not a big deal to me, just wanted to know if you still owned the stock.

Yes ,those in 2005, being the 'original' shares,which Ill hold until I can get 50% ROI.

No FIFO in trading.
 

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think we see new lows before the days out

yen moving to new highs on the day now
 

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You posted in the financial forum about buying it in the 6's, but youve also posted here in political about owning and buying the stock in 2005. It was higher than 6 dollar level during that time.

Not a big deal to me, just wanted to know if you still owned the stock.

How about Amgen (amgn)? Do you still own that one?

No,Im not tied to every stock I buy and I admit I took a bit of a bath on that one (cisco as well-although Im holding on to it)....how about natural gas,you going to start touting that one again.
 

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Im not trying to get into a me vs. you bash battle in this thread.

I wanted to know if you still owned ford since you had mentioned it before.

What stocks is your firm recommending people buy now and are they recommending people sell anything?
 

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there is one thing that scares me more then the crux of the past two weeks problems, which is due to the unwinding of the yen carry trade


I've said many times that the FED just will not "allow" the economy to go into a recession for political/election purposes.

what if "they" are on the side of Hillary?

We already know that the Clintons' and the Bush's are in the same camp...Bilderburg, CFR, Wall Street, CIA, drug dealers.....etc.

what better a way to ensure she gets elected than to have a recession......same thing happened in 1990.....with amazingly the same two Clinton/ Bush families

Always wondered why they "let" the economy get so bad in 1990 it led to Bush getting thrown out.....until I found out what was really going on

History always repeats......that scares me short term more than anything
 

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AP
Lowe's 3Q Profit Falls, Cuts Outlook
Monday November 19, 11:35 am ET
By Ieva M. Augstums, AP Business Writer
Lowe's Profit Falls 10 Percent in 3Q on Housing Slump, Cuts Outlook for 4th Quarter, Full Year

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Lowe's Cos., the No. 2 U.S. home improvement chain, said Monday that its third-quarter profit fell 10.2 percent, citing a weak sales environment amid a continuing slump in the housing sector.

The company also slashed its outlook for the fourth quarter and the full year, sending its shares down more than 6 percent in morning trading.
 

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jdog, no matter how great the feds power, and we all know they have kept the market from falling for years now, the market is still larger than the players and that includes the fed.

Longterm, they cannot control what the market or the economy does.

The longer they delay the inevitable, the longer and worse the downturn is going to be.

imho real estate is too large for the fed to reverse its course.

now that the real estate downturn has gained a head of steam, its going to take entire economy down with it.
 

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there is one thing that scares me more then the crux of the past two weeks problems, which is due to the unwinding of the yen carry trade


I've said many times that the FED just will not "allow" the economy to go into a recession for political/election purposes.

what if "they" are on the side of Hillary?

We already know that the Clintons' and the Bush's are in the same camp...Bilderburg, CFR, Wall Street, CIA, drug dealers.....etc.

what better a way to ensure she gets elected than to have a recession......same thing happened in 1990.....with amazingly the same two Clinton/ Bush families

Always wondered why they "let" the economy" get so bad in 1990 it led to Bush getting thrown out.....until I found out what was really going on

History always repeats......that scares me short term more than anything

you can only "control" the economy for so long, you are giving them way to much credit IMO

it only works as long as you fool the people...people are waking up

plus sentiment once it switches directions tends to happen quickly

watching the yen so funny saw new daily highs on yen and of course markets eventually follow it
 

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perhaps I do give them too much credit

as far as the US....we are already in a recession. But the rest of the world is still booming and we are no longer the global titan of the past.

gotta believe the commodity stocks de-couple from the broader market soon.
 

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