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Inflation good!!! print biatches

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More U.S. millionaires are middle-class



By Belinda Goldsmith Wed Oct 31, 11:17 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters Life!) - Sitting on a million but still middle-class? New research has found that more and more Americans worth at least $1 million want luxury goods such as yachts but otherwise lead family-focused, work-oriented lives.

Private wealth specialists Lewis Schiff and Russ Alan Prince found the number of Americans with $1 million to $10 million had risen to 8.4 million households -- or 7.6 percent of U.S. households -- and was growing at 15 percent a year.

But instead of entering the echelons of the elite, these new millionaires adhere to middle-class values, earning their money rather than inheriting it, working 70 hours a week, and choosing neighborhoods based on the quality of schools.

"These are middle class people who are in the community and don't insulate themselves but they are different because they have managed to accumulate wealth," said Schiff, the president of private wealth consultant Advanced Planning Group.

"They spend their money on all the things that tie back to family values -- on the health and welfare of their family, career development, and as you move up the ladder they spend on leisure and luxury activities."

Schiff and Prince surveyed about 3,600 people -- 600 millionaires and 3,000 middle-class people -- to research their book "The Middle Class Millionaire: The Rise of the New Rich and How they are Changing America" due out next February.

They found that 89 percent of middle-class millionaires believed anyone could attain wealth through hard work.

YACHTS, SCHOOLS, AND CARS

Middle-class millionaires are almost three times as likely as the average middle-class person to choose a career based on its likely earnings, three times as likely to belong to a networking group, and five times more likely to say they are always available for work by phone or email.

Nearly eight out of 10 -- or 77 percent -- choose their neighborhood based on the quality of the school system.

"They are much more outgoing and involved in the community than the very affluent who tend to be more insular and react with fewer people," Schiff said.

He said the four main characteristics of a millionaire were that they were hard working, networked, persistent even in the face of failure, and put themselves in the flow of money.

"You could be a hard-working, dedicated chemistry teacher but you will never create wealth in that way," he added.

The authors argue this new group has a strong influence on spending, shaping the habits of their middle class counterparts and impacting certain product sectors ranging from yachting to jewellery to handbags.

Grant Skeens, president and CEO of marine lender KeyBank Luxury Yacht Lending (LYL) said this was reflected in the demand for boats of 80 feet and above, costing about $1 million, which is growing at 15 percent a year.

"The new buyers really value leisure time as they have so little time," he told Reuters.

But with this new group of wealth buying up what were once seen as the trappings of wealth, this is also changing the spending of the super-rich.

"When you're very wealthy you look for exclusive expressions of affluence and when these are more available to a larger number of people they lose their exclusivity so they want something new and innovative," said Schiff.

"This means the top one percent has to find a new way to express their affluence and we are seeing this most commonly through technology."
 

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tiz if that doesnt work out you can always work doing some research

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/russian_nano

they will treat you well

i'm kinda nearing the end of the scientific phase of my life, yeah i could go on and get paid 90k+ to work 50-70 hour weeks making money for the corporate man but that really doesn't seem interesting to me

:toast:

I can find other ways to survive and not have to be a slave to anybody...granted i won't have as many cool gadgets and funny money dollar in my bank account....but that really doesn't concern me.....
 

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Tizbull, buy some of them yacht-building stocks bro. (RV's too)

$$$$

:lol: at your new avatar, cuss.

I got a poem in my e-mail...

America was starting to stir there for a while.
Patriotism was being whipped up.
A keen yearning for change was rising!
Then Fred appeared on Jay Leno to say "I'm running for president",
and enthusiasm rose to fevered pitch.
The tease was over!
The action about to begin!
America waited.
It waited some more.
And then, quietly, the curtain fell.
Instead of action, two minutes of Fred has become the new prescription for a good night's sleep.


Go Ron Paul. :ohno: :lolBIG:
 

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Sell,sell,sell
 

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crox doing me proud today been waiting for that to implode finally did, overpriced plastic shoes weeee

down 34%
 

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I swear you dont even read your articles tiz....

More American millionaires are not becoming isolated,pretentious asswipes because of inflation? The weak dollar transforming otherwise pompous spendthrifts into joe six pack with small town values?

Or because rising wages and labor demands allow them parlay their given occupation and effort into millions?

I think you saw millionaire and middle class and drew some false assumptions.
 

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figured oil at these prices and gas at the pump prices off its peak was gonna hit the oil companies

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Exxon's Crude Nightmare
Evelyn M. Rusli, 11.01.07, 2:35 PM ET

The odd dynamic of expensive crude oil and weak gasoline prices, is turning into an ugly headache for Exxon Mobil.

On Thursday, the giant energy company, said profits fell 10.3% to $9.4 billion, or $1.70 a share, from $10.5 billion, or $1.77 a share, for the year-ago period. Meanwhile, sales edged up 2.7% to $102.3 billion, from $99.6 billion. The results were well shy of Wall Street’s call--analysts were expecting profits of $1.75 a share on sales of $113.0 billion.

Shares of Exxon Mobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) fell 2.8%, or $2.59, to $89.40 in afternoon trading.

Like other oil refiners, Exxon Mobil has been battered by high crude prices because gasoline prices have not risen proportionately. For instance, from May to October, gasoline prices actually fell 45 cents a gallon. In turn, this imbalance depresses refining margins--the spread between what a company pays for crude and what it earns from the refined products.

With oil hurtling toward the $100 mark--amid low supplies and political tension in the Middle East--refiners may not get a break in the near future. On Thursday, the price of crude oil dipped to $94.54 in morning trading, after having briefly broken past the $96 level.

In addition, Exxon Mobil experienced lower chemical margins, owing to weak natural gas prices and increased costs. Maturing fields also hampered yields, as oil production fell 4.3% in the quarter. In total, upstream profits (which includes exploration and production) declined 3.1% to $6.3 billion.

Meanwhile, downstream earnings (from refining and marketing) slipped 36.8% to $2.0 billion. The greatest drag took place in the United States, where earnings fell 39.1%. By comparison, earnings fell 34.9% abroad.

Refining margins have plagued the largest energy players this year. Last month, BP (nyse: BP - news - people ) said profits plunged 29.3% to $4.4 billion, from $6.2 billion in the year-ago period.(See: "BP Looking Better." )

In the second quarter, gasoline prices rose because of a perceived tightening in gasoline inventories, as problems and delays stalled production at American refineries. With crude oil prices high and gasoline supply tight, oil companies were able to charge consumers fat prices at the pump during the height of the vacation season.

However, since then, refineries have ramped up production, flooding gasoline supplies and, in turn, depressing prices. Oppenheimer & Co. analyst Fadel Gheit called the second quarter a unique period and said that refinery issues inflated gas prices to extraordinary heights. "We are now returning to more realistic numbers," he remarked.

Last month, Chevron (nyse: CVX - news - people ) warned that profits would fall sharply in the period on tight refining margins. The San Ramon, Calif.-based company did not lay out specific numbers, but Chevron, which reports results on Friday, did say that third-quarter profits will be "significantly below" second-quarter results.

A slew of oil companies were down on Thursday. Chevron stumbled 1.6%, or $1.50 to $90.01, Royal Dutch Shell (nyse: RDSA - news - people ) dropped 2.5%, or $2.15, to $85.36, and BP dropped 1.6%, or $1.22, to $76.77 in afternoon trading.
 

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I swear you dont even read your articles tiz....

More American millionaires are not becoming isolated,pretentious asswipes because of inflation? The weak dollar transforming otherwise pompous spendthrifts into joe six pack with small town values?

Or because rising wages and labor demands allow them parlay their given occupation and effort into millions?

I think you saw millionaire and middle class and drew some false assumptions.

number 1 being a millionaire today doesn't mean what it meant in year's past

number 2 these middle class millionaries are driven by the desire to consume and in order to do this they have to work 70 hours a week, have two working parents, some are broken homes, little time spent with children, etc.

If i really wanted to, out of undergrad i coulda went into the workfield and be well on my way to being a millionaire but for me all that stuff is meaningless, as long as i got a roof over my head, food on the table, and most importantly enjoy what I do in my day to day life, i'll be happy

I'm enjoying life and taking things at my own pace
 

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My friend who works in the financials sent me this - but he's a doom and gloomer too.
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</TD><TD id=tdMessageBody><TABLE width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=ExternalClass>yeah, they cut yesterday but somewhat of a lackluster rally behind it (warning sign). then todays news. the market loves rate cuts (for many reasons) but they way yhis fizzled out should be noted. companies cutting jobs left and right. Lucent Alcatel, Chrysler, etc et c...people in way over their heads with their real-estate, mortgages, etc....Spending will be light this Xmas (all warning signs). Oil almost $100 a barrel (warning sign). Companies will be forcasting slower growth in the coming quarters and 2008. (huge warning sign). But ultimately it will be the fallout from real estate which will turn this into a recession vs. just an econmoic blip which happens all the time. You'll see people start to get scared of all these rate cuts and money the fed has injected into the market. While these cuts are typically embraced, it will not be long before people realize these are signs of panic from the fed and the more they cut and the more money they inject - the worse off we really are. And then it starts.....................................
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Don't bother, he's not smart enough to understand inflation.

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417 is about 3.1% gain

dollar in last 3 months 81 to 76.62 5.4% drop

:lolBIG:

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Frankie & Tiz doing the double team, they're not even on the same page.

Tiz talks about decreasing value of dollar, which of course doesn'y necessarily mean deceasing purchasing power.

Frankie chimes in by suggesting Tiz was talking about inflation, with seems to indicate Frankie believes inflation is now 21.6 % annually.

And I'm dumb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:missingte:missingte:missingte

Two babys lost in the big bad woods.
 

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Or maybe folks are attaining such affluency thru hard work ,toiling at 'middle class' jobs to get what they want in life,are on to something.Thats called work ethic and its a good thing.You make a million sound like peanuts.....laughable. Nothings what it used to be-we accept that.

Folks working HARD for the life of luxury-what a concept.I dont see a negative context here like you insinaute.These folks dont want pity for thier efforts-theyre advocating the American dream.
 

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yikes got caught up in ron paul ranting as market really got its tank on....370 point haircut
 

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Willie, could you please explain this one to me: :think2:

"Tiz talks about decreasing value of dollar, which of course doesn't necessarily mean deceasing purchasing power."

Why do you think oil is skyrocketing? You think demand is up that much? It's because the dollar is losing value on a daily basis, hence the loss in purchasing power.

Also, when did I ever mention inflation of 21%, or is that just some bullshit number you pulled out of your ass?

Don't bother, he's not smart enough to understand inflation.

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;">Originally Posted by tiznow
417 is about 3.1% gain

dollar in last 3 months 81 to 76.62 5.4% drop

:lolBIG:

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Frankie & Tiz doing the double team, they're not even on the same page.

Tiz talks about decreasing value of dollar, which of course doesn'y necessarily mean deceasing purchasing power.

Frankie chimes in by suggesting Tiz was talking about inflation, with seems to indicate Frankie believes inflation is now 21.6 % annually.

And I'm dumb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:missingte:missingte:missingte

Two babys lost in the big bad woods.
 

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