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Are you really saying that the 2001 dollar has equivalent value of today's dollar? If you are, that might be the most absurd and false statement I have seen on this forum.

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[SIZE=+3]Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1[/SIZE]​
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No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.



Guess this document doesn't mean anything anymore. There's a reason the founding fathers included this.



actually eek, it's still worth a dollar over here. And no, there has been relatively little inflation. And yes, the leaders of Europe and Japan are gravely concerned for their own economies by the decreasing of American trade deficits.

Travel abroad hurt big time. Buying Maximas or BMWs hurt big time. Buying American? no problemo
 

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actually eek, it's still worth a dollar over here. And no, there has been relatively little inflation. And yes, the leaders of Europe and Japan are gravely concerned for their own economies by the decreasing of American trade deficits.

Travel abroad hurt big time. Buying Maximas or BMWs hurt big time. Buying American? no problemo

realtively little inflation?

do you not put gas in a car, buy food, etc?

the bare bone "necessities" americans must purchase are through the roof

yeah nice cheap chinese trinkets, plasma tvs, computers and all that stuff are making up for some of this....but for your average american just scraping to get by.....he's being hit dead in the face with inflation big time.

On top of the fact most americans are in some sort of debt due to a piece of plastic they can hand to somebody that tallies up digits that they don't have to worry about till later.

CCs one of most evil things ever created by the powers that be....kinda along the same lines of casino chips.....it doesn't "seem" like real money so people end up spending way beyond their means.
 

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tiz as you know the true inflation rate is 9.9% right now, if it were calculated correctly

the gov't could say that the earth is flat and some of these guys would buy it.....
 

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PLEASE EXPLAIN:WTF:

it has been explained 25 times on here, but in a nutshell, up until the Clinton years, inflation was calculated using a fixed basket of common goods that nearly everybody consumed ( certain foods, energy, housing ETC.)

after the fed inflated in the 70's the inflation rate was in the high teens. most remember this. During the 80's we actually saw deflation....

In the mid 90's it was decided we needed to re-inflate again. Rather then have Precious metals and commodites soar like in the 70's and rates skyrocket, they decided to fake the CPI numbers

What they do is: whenever one of those original "basket of goods" got to be too high they yanked it out and substituted something that was falling or less value....IE Chinese TV's for gasoline....hamburger for steak....rental housing VS buying a home....ETC. - it is no longer an accurate measure.

luckily, there are a few economists out there (some very prominent) who have taken it upon themselves to calculate the current inflation rate like it had been done for 50 years prior. The consensus right now amongst them is from 6% to 11% - the guy I respect the most and find to be more accurate is at 9.9%
 

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More and more people are becoming aware of the scam, and I see it coming to a head within 5 years.

Also, the true defination of inflation is an increase in the money supply.

rising prices, or price inflation, is just a result of that
 

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You are right on money creation being one of the best methods to get a guage. You have to ferret out M3 numbers as they don't print them any longer. Those who do show between 12 and 14% this year alone. Countries like China in the 25% range. A world bathing in easy money. Feels good for a while....Then it doesn't.
 

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a trick that is getting to be more common (and more obvious) is the shrinking size of products to keep the scam alive

what used to be a gallon of bleach at .99 cents 5 years ago is now 3/4 gallon at 1.99...etc....etc..

somebody on here said something about McDonald's cheesburgers: "what inflations they are still .99 cents after all these years"...yeah but the meat has shrunk buy 30% and it is still probably a loss-leader.

regular price of a 6 pack of premium beer was 5.99 5 years ago...then 6.99...7.99 last year. now 8.99.

Aaron Russo was correct: the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. Unfortunatley the rest of the world now is forced to join the scam by devaluating their currencies as well, so not to seriously impact their exports.
 

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tiz as you know the true inflation rate is 9.9% right now, if it were calculated correctly

the gov't could say that the earth is flat and some of these guys would buy it.....

Very true.

No way in hell the govt inflation data is near the truth.
 

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a trick that is getting to be more common (and more obvious) is the shrinking size of products to keep the scam alive

what used to be a gallon of bleach at .99 cents 5 years ago is now 3/4 gallon at 1.99...etc....etc..

somebody on here said something about McDonald's cheesburgers: "what inflations they are still .99 cents after all these years"...yeah but the meat has shrunk buy 30% and it is still probably a loss-leader.

regular price of a 6 pack of premium beer was 5.99 5 years ago...then 6.99...7.99 last year. now 8.99.

Aaron Russo was correct: the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. Unfortunatley the rest of the world now is forced to join the scam by devaluating their currencies as well, so not to seriously impact their exports.

Do you suppose the staggering price of oil has anything to do with the increase in the prices of things we buy? IMO its more or less the main factor.
 

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Do you suppose the staggering price of oil has anything to do with the increase in the prices of things we buy? IMO its more or less the main factor.

No.

The price of oil.....all things for that matter increase in price when the currency is worth less. It all begins there. People like to think "oh those damn greedy oil companies" but that is simply not the case.

PS- thanks for chiming in Joe. I mean that. The day you agree with anything I have to say is the day I do some serious soul-searching. Just further validates the point.
 

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Just for a heads up republican debate on CNBS after the closing bell tomorrow 4 est and replaying on MSNBC at 9 est.....you can hear ron paul rant about all this stuff we bears talk about on here....well if they let him speak that is...should be a good one....
 

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Just for a heads up republican debate on CNBS after the closing bell tomorrow 4 est and replaying on MSNBC at 9 est.....you can hear ron paul rant about all this stuff we bears talk about on here....well if they let him speak that is...should be a good one....

tiz I'd like to go on record as not being a bear.

in fact, due to the FEDS current actions (predicted BTW) all asset classes besides RE will soar beyond belief in the next 18 months

of course as many know, the longer we go without a meaningfull cleansing, or recession, the worse the fall....2010 or 2011. gla
 

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tiz I'd like to go on record as not being a bear.

in fact, due to the FEDS current actions (predicted BTW) all asset classes besides RE will soar beyond belief in the next 18 months

of course as many know, the longer we go without a meaningfull cleansing, or recession, the worse the fall....2010 or 2011. gla

this is exactly the reason i think shit hits the fan soon.....the people who see a shit storm coming have conceded the fact that everything is going to continue to go up as it has for the past 4-5 years non stop.....

charts looks similiar to 2000 and 1987 market tops by the way....had the initial large swoon down with bad news....than the sharp re-rally to near/new highs squeezing out the bears.....and than ultimately we fell on our face....china now has run from 1000 to 5600 in 2 years making nazdaq tech bubble look small at this point....we shall see....
 

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tiz you may be right....we are definatley due and would not come as a shock

bottom line is: the way these markets are being micromanaged (hey joe there is your socialism) and as much money that is being printed...it has to go someplace. Everything rises as a result, however as DAW pointed out inflation adjusted you are losing. Charade has another few years to play out.....JMHO of course

PS -would not say "everything is going up non-stop" last 4-5 years.....had a pretty significant 10% correction in AUG. Trust me I know the scam but the elliot wave charts are in a screaming bull mode right now
 

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early indications gonna be a tough holiday for the retailers as expected.....i'm still in shock how dead the bars are in my town this semester....first hand accounts in my little area at places that "unnecessary" discretionary spending is prevalent is way down.....plus this has ripple effect as the bartenders and watresses working aren't getting much in the way of tips etc.

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Stores Ready, But Holiday Shoppers Will Wait

U.S. retailers are touting holiday deals and discounts earlier than ever this year, but the efforts may fall flat as consumers expect to start shopping for this crucial season later than ever, according to a survey released Tuesday by NPD Group.

Forty-one percent of survey respondents said they do not expect to begin their holiday shopping until after Thanksgiving -- 10 percent more than a year ago.

"Retailers are looking to start the season earlier but consumers just aren't ready," said NPD Chief Industry Expert Marshal Cohen in a statement.

Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, typically marks the launch of the ultra-competitive holiday shopping season. But many retailers have already introduced early holiday deals and started clogging mailboxes with gift guides, worried about the state of consumer spending headed into the end of the year.

Walmart began cutting prices on hot toys Sept. 30, while on Sept. 28, L.L. Bean began offering free shipping and handling to all customers through Dec. 21.

Home furnishing retailer Pottery Barn, a unit of Williams-Sonoma sent an e-mail on Sept. 28 inviting recipients to "be the first to shop our new holiday collections."

But the early efforts may not be enough to get shoppers into holiday shopping mode.

"The hesitation comes in because there isn't that one, must-have item, coupled with the fact that consumers are conditioned to expect deeper discounts as it gets later in the season ... where's the incentive to shop early?" Cohen said.

The survey was conducted between Sept. 10 and Sept. 17, and was based on information from 1,943 completed interviews.

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U.S. Retail Sales Rise at Slowest Pace in Five Months
By Heather Burke

Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. retail sales in September increased at the slowest pace in five months as consumers limited spending, raising concerns results for the holiday season may be the worst since 2002.

Sales at stores open at least 12 months gained 2 percent from a year earlier, the International Council of Shopping Centers and UBS Securities LLC said today in a preliminary statement. The increase was the smallest since same-store sales fell 1.9 percent in April and half the gain of September 2006.

Target Corp. cut its September sales growth prediction last month, while Children's Place Retail Stores Inc. lowered its profit forecasts for the year. A slump in housing sales and increased fuel costs limited clothing and home-goods purchases.

''Retailers need to be mindful going into the holiday season of the economic conditions that are affecting consumer- spending patterns and consequently have to have a strong marketing plan in place to win back consumer demand,'' ICSC Chief Economist Michael Niemira said in an interview.

September results were on the low end of the ICSC's sales growth forecast of 2 percent to 2.5 percent. Initially, the group expected 2.5 percent. Comparable-store sales advanced 4 percent in September 2006.

Higher Temperatures

Higher-than-normal temperatures in the eastern U.S. slowed purchases of sweaters and hooded sweatshirts. Last month was the eighth-warmest September since 1895, according to Planalytics Inc., a weather-consulting firm.

Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, fell 25 cents to $45.02 as of 12:01 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. Children's Place dropped $1.50, or 6.2 percent, to $22.82. The Standard & Poor's Retailing Index declined 0.8 percent and is down 2.4 percent this year.

Wal-Mart, Target and other retailers issue their monthly sales reports Oct. 11, while the U.S. government will release its monthly sales the next day.

U.S. sales in November and December probably will climb 4 percent this year, the slowest since a 1.3 percent gain in 2002, the National Retail Federation said last month.

Sales for the seven days through Oct. 6 climbed 2.1 percent from a year earlier, and were unchanged from the previous week, the ICSC and UBS said today.

Children's Place, the operator of the Disney Store clothing chain, today said third-quarter per-share earnings may be 60 percent less than its lowest forecast and fourth-quarter profit might be ''significantly'' below projections. Slow sales prompted markdowns at its Children's Place stores.

Target, Wal-Mart

Target, the second-biggest U.S. discount chain, cut its monthly sales forecast on Sept. 24, forecasting less than half of what it initially predicted, due to fewer customer visits. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. earlier this month lowered prices on some toys more than two weeks earlier than 2006, to lure customers.

Another retail sales survey showed a 1.8 percent gain last week from a year earlier. September sales climbed 2 percent, according to Johnson Redbook Index, and trailed its target for a 2.6 percent increase.

Both the ICSC and Johnson Redbook reports track same-store sales. Investors consider same-store sales a key measurement of a retailer's performance because it excludes locations that have recently opened or closed.

Most of the eastern part of the U.S. recorded temperatures 2 degrees to 6 degrees Fahrenheit higher than normal, the Wayne, Pennsylvania-based Planalytics said today in a report. Parts of the Northeast experienced record high temperatures in the last week.

Clearance Section

''We saw the greatest activity in the clearance section of most retailers, as this was where shoppers could find old summer carryover merchandise,'' Adrienne Tennant, an analyst at Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co., wrote in a report yesterday. Tennant's team visited malls two days starting Oct. 6.

Consumer confidence dropped more than forecast in September to the lowest level in almost two years, hurt by falling home values, a deteriorating labor market and stricter borrowing standards, the New York-based Conference Board said Sept. 25. New-home purchase prices plunged in August by the most since 1970, the Commerce Department said Sept. 27.

The ICSC's September results are preliminary. The group will issue a final figure for the sales it tracks at 60 chains on Oct. 11.

Johnson Redbook measures same-store sales at general- merchandise retailers representing about 9,000 locations.
 

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I love how retailers always blame the weather. If its too nice, people stay outside and go shopping. If its not nice out, people stay home to avoid poor weather. If Thanksgiving is late, there aren't enough shopping days between it and Christmas...Good stuff.
 

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Hedge fund collapse is on the way'

By Steve Johnson

Published: October 8 2007 03:00 | Last updated: October 8 2007 12:58

Investors will withdraw $500bn (£245bn, €355bn) – a quarter of the asset base – from hedge funds in the next year, leading to the collapse of a "large number" of hedge funds.

So spredicts Giles Conway-Gordon, managing partner of Cogo Wolf, a San Francisco-based fund of hedge funds, who believes investors are increasingly dissatisfied with industry performance, and that computer-driven quantitative hedge funds now simply run too much money to make healthy returns.

"I don't think it [the hedge fund industry] can support $2,000bn of assets. I think we are going to see large numbers of hedge funds go out of business, and rightly so," he says. "Hedge funds are supposed to avoid losses when things are bad, but there are very few that can break even then. I think a lot of them are not earning their keep.

"There's a hell of a wave of money, say $500bn, coming out of hedge funds over the next year. There is going to be more of a focus on demonstrable results and track records that do not rely on 10-12 times leverage.

"I think we are going to see a very sharp Darwinian process in the next six months. Things have been too easy for too long and I think cold winds are about to blow."

Mr Conway-Gordon's comments come as much of the hedge fund industry has struggled to cope with the market turbulence. Two hedge funds run by Bear Stearns and one managed by Australia's Basis Capital have filed for bankruptcy, while others run by Goldman Sachs and Sowood Capital have encountered severe problems.

The HFRI Fund Weighted Composite Index fell 1.3 per cent in August, even as the S&P 500 index rose 1.5 per cent, although hedge funds made money in June and July when the S&P fell.

Mr Conway-Gordon, a 20-year industry veteran and former director at GAM, believes "black box" quant hedge funds in particular face a moment of truth. "We don't believe in this quant stuff, it's like using only the rear-view mirror and blacking out the windscreen when driving a car."

While the market backdrop may have been supportive to quant funds in the past, he fears the current environment will find many managers out. "It worked when not too many people were doing it, but it's now starting to fall apart. As soon as the road bends only slightly you are off the road. If you have got 10 times leverage in your engine you will come a cropper."

In contrast, Mr Conway-Gordon uses no leverage, does not invest in hedge funds that are more than twice leveraged themselves and favours fundamentally driven hedge funds.

His $65m Cogo Wolf Global Strategy Fund has responded by producing a five-year annualised return of 21.7 per cent in the period to July 31, comfortably ahead of the MSCI World equity index and more than double the return of the HFRI Fund of Funds Composite Index, although a wobble in August will have reduced this to a degree.

This outperformance has largely been driven by Mr Conway-Gordon's faith in two interlocking themes; the strength of both emerging markets and commodities. He argues that the rapid changes underway across a swathe of emerging markets, lifting large numbers of people out of grinding poverty, are the sort of global shift that happens only once every 75-100 years.

He is playing this theme through holdings in a dozen long/short equity funds focused on India, China, Russia, Africa and Latin America. In spite of his optimism towards the asset class, he still argues that gaining exposure via hedge, rather than long-only funds, is beneficial.

"There is a long bias to emerging market funds as you don't tend to get the shorting mechanisms there. But we prefer to be in the hands of people who will have the avoidance mechanisms, rather than simply being long-only."

Natural resources, one of the factors that have helped power the rise of many emerging market economies, are Mr Conway-Gordon's other pet theme. In particular, he is enthusiastic about gold in spite of the fact that prices have already surged to a near 28-year high in nominal terms, with the most recent leg-up aided by the crumbling US dollar.

"The dollar is going to continue weakening. It's the end, probably, of the dollar's dominance in the international arena."

If Asian and Middle Eastern central banks come to the same conclusion and start to switch a slice of their vast foreign reserves out of the greenback, he believes gold will be a prime beneficiary.

"After the [second world] war gold was the balance of foreign exchange reserves, now it is tiny," he says.

Figures from the World Gold Council indicate that 76.1 per cent of the foreign reserves of the US are currently held in the form of gold, 63.2 per cent of those of Germany and 56.9 per cent of those of France.

Yet the proportion of gold held in Asia, where foreign reserves are growing fastest, remains negligible. Just 0.1 per cent of South Korea's reserves are held as gold, 1.1 per cent of China's and 2.4 per cent of Russia's.

"If we are entering a period where there are question marks about developed economies, and the dollar in particular, I would be increasing gold to 5 per cent in my reserves."
 

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