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Is this good or bad?

two ways to look at it

just as the bond insurance industry is starting to fret about their AAA credit rating, a new player, backed by Berkshire's Billions, with lots of insurance experience (Geico and General RE) is about to enter the market with an AAAA credit rating.

if the current bond insurers ( MBIA & Ambac) lose their AAA credit rating we will see some real fireworks in the market with carryover to the financials, maybe Buffet is looking at certain financial, but by making this move he almost guarantees he'll get them cheaper in a few months.

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consider His insurance companies (Geico and General RE) own a pretty large boatload of these mortgage instruments. This is simply a ploy to try keep these bonds on the books at face value. Ain't gonna happen as the foreclosure will keep getting worse and worse. This is only postponing the death of the major financial institutions
 

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we are heading for a recession probably a nasty one

RE is gonna continue to get killed

end of lesson

I'm in Miami - nothing is selling - but I'm in some real obscure things - alot of things the government wants to purchase - but yes, nothing is selling - and several of my mortgages are going bad and I already had to foreclose two mortgages in the last 6 months - I imagine I'll be foreclosing another 4 or 5 this year - but this will provide buying opportunities in the middle of the year or so - banks are already taking less than they lent - if their judgment is 400k they'll stand up and say they'll let it go for 350k - and they still get stuck with it.
 

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boloney, highly disagree

he's already got the replacement for him in line etc....

at this point just trying to protect his legacy as the "oracle of omaha" looking at his movement as far as what you should be investing in for down the road long term is pointless
 

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ok so Berkshire isnt him as you pointed out.

whats your point? so fill in the blank and put new replacement instead of Buffet.

Berkshire is making moves
 

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I'm in Miami - nothing is selling - but I'm in some real obscure things - alot of things the government wants to purchase - but yes, nothing is selling - and several of my mortgages are going bad and I already had to foreclose two mortgages in the last 6 months - I imagine I'll be foreclosing another 4 or 5 this year - but this will provide buying opportunities in the middle of the year or so - banks are already taking less than they lent - if their judgment is 400k they'll stand up and say they'll let it go for 350k - and they still get stuck with it.

might be momentary "buying opportunities" within the bust but overall but we a long way from the final bottom

so much garbage/low quality RE has been sold at ridiculous prices and using shady credit practices to boot
 

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ok so Berkshire isnt him as you pointed out.

whats your point? so fill in the blank and put new replacement instead of Buffet.

Berkshire is making moves

it's just a big bloated beuracracy at this point handling tons of money watching the movements of it is inconsequential to what joe six pack should be doing

all i'm saying
 

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Tizzy, I love ya but you need to read up on peak oil. You wouldn't hold to that 120 call in your lifetime. You'd be about a hundred higher than that within a few years.
 

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Seymour you would be doing yourself a big favor if you put a healthy chunk of your money into precious metals.

That way if us guys calling for a full blown economic disaster are correct you cannot be wiped out as gold will always have value.

I dont recommend GLD, but owning that gold etf is better than no exposure to the sector. Buy the physical first then pick a handful of the best mining stocks.

Your portfolio looks to have alot of different things, so you will probably track what the s/p or close to what the worldwide benchmark does.

Plenty of rich people have went bankrupt during extended bear markets and recessions. We dont really need a full blown depression to wipeout alot of paper wealthy folks.
 

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as oil gets too high other energy sources will be more and more viable

blessing in disguise

I too dont see much more than 120 this year
 

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Tizzy, I love ya but you need to read up on peak oil. You wouldn't hold to that 120 call in your lifetime. You'd be about a hundred higher than that within a few years.

peak "cheap" oil IMO

the easy to tap shit is beyond us
 

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If you think tar sands and dirty oil and shale oil etc... will keep prices down, you are nuts. Recession can slow the rise a little. Depression a bit more. But we are going up by multiples.
 

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peak "cheap" oil IMO

the easy to tap shit is beyond us

I do agree with this post, but thats a larger problem than it appears.

The American economy and much of our lifestyle is based upon cheap energy.

They are falling off the wagon slowly, but there are still people out there that think oil is going back to what it was earlier this decade.

That simply isnt going to happen.
 

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If you think tar sands and dirty oil and shale oil etc... will keep prices down, you are nuts. Recession can slow the rise a little. Depression a bit more. But we are going up by multiples.

you assuming china and india continue to grow at unsustainable 10%+ clips too

i mean if the rest of the world continues to boom and we fall on our face at same time your right

oil went from the teens to 70s from early 70s to early 80s and than russia went belly up
 

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you assuming china and india continue to grow at unsustainable 10%+ clips too

i mean if the rest of the world continues to boom and we fall on our face at same time your right

It doesn't matter if they grow or not. We are pumping less and less and that will continue to be the case. You might see 70 before you see 200, but 200 is coming...and yes, in your lifetime.
 

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we are pumping plenty global demand just not keeping up, plus oil priced in dollars so that has some effect

but demand a bigger part of the equation

global recesssion will flip the script
 

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just a few figures

we are 5% of the world population

and consumer 26% of the worlds energy
 

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Yet you probably sit there with 2 or 3 pc's on, the tv and several lights.

Tizdoom, happy new year ya frigin bearturd
 

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