Most of the state's 238,000 workers already are being forced to take off two Fridays each month without pay! <><>
IMO all forms of Goverment should downsize!
Everyone is told whenever a Tax increase is coming it is for any reason except the truth! Cut Payrolls = Less Tax :think2: get rid of the unions ^^
In reality I believe the country was here many times and the solution is to easy but FYI in the early 80's unemploment was worse so....... :toast: stay away from Pa. more corrupt then most but never the worst?
seriously, take one for the team. let the state gov't cut hours of these state employees. i'm fine by it as long as they don't get laid off, which would make it harder for them. i don't like Schwarzenegger, but somebody has got to make those cost cutting calls. sucks because this will reflect upon him when re-election comes up.
that was the ultimatum our bosses were giving us at the bank department. either they start laying off people, or cutting hours. they first started laying people off, and then realize it wasn't right, so they forced bosses to take early retirement packages, cut everyone's hours, mines went from 45 to 30 right away and i'm pissed about it, but not going to cry over it as long as i still have my job. everybody has been alright, there hasn't been a layoff in 4 months that i can remember. make some sacrifices, CA economy is in deep trouble.
that was the ultimatum our bosses were giving us at the bank department. either they start laying off people, or cutting hours. they first started laying people off, and then realize it wasn't right, so they forced bosses to take early retirement packages, cut everyone's hours, mines went from 45 to 30 right away and i'm pissed about it, but not going to cry over it as long as i still have my job. everybody has been alright, there hasn't been a layoff in 4 months that i can remember. make some sacrifices, CA economy is in deep trouble.
Southern Cal is a Joke....Ever been to LA?...First place I ever went to with stop lights on the entrance ramps...Cali most of the people are plastic,very wierd & act gay like most liberal places....Thats why I call it the land of fruits & nuts because its like going to the biggest nuthouse in the world & they have their head so far up their ass not even dynamite will get it out...Guess its all that pot they smoke...Northern California is nice though especially thru redwood country & around mt shasta & on I-80 from Sacramento to Reno is breathtaking...Detroit far from pefect but Ill take that over Southern Cal any day...If you think California no crime you are sadly mistaken.
You enjoy two things: one is typing "lol" and "lmfao,", and the other is talking about things you know nothing about.
California's problems are the direct result of Prop 13, passed 31 years ago in June.
California is enormous. It is far larger than I think any of you realize. It has a population 50% larger than the next largest state, Texas. To lump all Californians together is a combination of silly and stupid. We have state assembly districts wiht more people than some states.
The proposal Ahnuld has on the table to cut 20,000 jobs will save about $750 million. That's 20,000 fewer people paying taxes and spending money. The budget defeceit here (which alone is larger than the entire budgets of almost all the other states) is $42 billion.
The clear and obviousl solution is to raise taxes. I live here. I own a house. And I would gladly pay more in taxes to get us out of this mess. Before Prop 13 California led the country in every meaningful category of social capital. We now have some of the worst roads in the country, infrastructure is crumbling, education spending has plummeted, and there's a proposal to shorten the school year even further to save more money. Then we compound the problem by enacting term limits which mean freshman assemblymembers and freshman senators are committe chairs and there are few members of the legislature who know anything about what's going on. Since they know they won't be there very long there's no incentive for them to build coalitions or to compromise. The 2/3 rule on the budget is asinine and lets a small minority unrepresntative of the population (general or voting) in the legislature hold the state hostage. The Republicans have gotten us into this mess, but they'll reap their reward at the ballot box, just like Bush.
arnold a bush clone
cut taxes but didn't cut spending
and now that the economy going to shit they got no money saved up for a raining day
but cali just the beginning of the fallout from the bloated liberally run state budgets nationwide
many others will be following eventually as tax revenues continue to dry up
cut taxes but didn't cut spending
and now that the economy going to shit they got no money saved up for a raining day
but cali just the beginning of the fallout from the bloated liberally run state budgets nationwide
many others will be following eventually as tax revenues continue to dry up
KILN's post at 11:33am is chock full o' good sense and mirrors the attitudes of many good people I know who live in various parts of California.
To suggest that "California is a terrible place to live" is instantly countered by the fact that almost 1 in 9 Americans live there.
To suggest that "California is a terrible place to live" is instantly countered by the fact that almost 1 in 9 Americans live there.
i like visiting there wouldn't want to live there though
too much traffic congestion etc...and i enjoy the change of seasons gives you something to look forward too
i always look forward to snow every year....now that we at the end of winter i'm sick of it along with the cold and ready for spring....
illegals going home in droves
since weed wacking jobs, construction jobs etc are no longer plentiful
i agree with you on taxes though
cali just a complete mess overall fiscally
if they were their own country they'd have the 7th-10th largest GDP in the world (depending on what source you site)....yet their state is threatened with bankruptcy even though they tax out the ass.....
cutting spending only option....just too many californians on the government payroll
Liberal California legislators have run California into the ground for years...those actions are finally coming home to roost.
And you blame Arnold for trying to make the best of an already hopeless situation?
Pull up a chair...watch the show...liberal angst is fun to watch.
hno: @)
And you blame Arnold for trying to make the best of an already hopeless situation?
Pull up a chair...watch the show...liberal angst is fun to watch.
hno: @)
:lol: By that logic...China is heaven on earth.
That is a stupid thing to say. I live here. Cutting spending is not our only option.
And undocumented workers contribute to the national economy in the long run. They subsidize unemployment insurance and social security and, at least in California, take out less from the system than they put in as opposed to the domestic poor who take out more than they put in. This is talking, of course, in the aggregate.
Liberal California legislators have run California into the ground for years...those actions are finally coming home to roost.
And you blame Arnold for trying to make the best of an already hopeless situation?
Pull up a chair...watch the show...liberal angst is fun to watch.
You know so much about our politics that I'd like to know your take on the nexus of Prop 13, Prop 98, and Prop 1a. How have they contributed to the mess and what would you do to resolve the problems Prop 13 have caused in light of Prop 218 and the other 2 props mentioned?
And I'm sure that all the news you watch tells you that conservatism is flowering. Regardless, try this, for one (first result on google):
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...04/12/undocumented_workers_contribute_plenty/
Dictator isn't a constitutional office. And if it were, I wouldn't be running for it. As a voter, though, I'd like to see us undo Prop 13 so that we're like every other state in the union with regards to property assessments (I pay 2000% of the property taxes that my neighbor does); I'd also like us to tax services like many states already do; I'd like an excise tax on oil extraction (we're the only state that doesn't have one); I'd like to make the initiative process conform with the standards in other states (Cali has the lowest threshold for initiatives, propositions, and referenda which has led to ballot box budgeting and many of the problems we now have); Ahnuld got elected by promising to end to the Vehicle License Fee and in getting rid of it got rid of $36 BILLION in revenue (yes, that's right, about the size of the current defecit); and I'd do away with the 2/3 rule in the legislature and on local tax initiatives. Thanks for asking.
I just think that arnold is barking up the wrong tree. cutting state workers isnt the solution. have you been to the dmv lately? do you see how screwed up it is? what would happen if it was only 3/4 staffed? same goes for alot of areas of gov't workers. the biggest problems in cali are the social programs, immigrant services, high business costs, and the legislatures inabilty to pass a budget for the past 8 months. you also have people like that dumbass who had octuplets and now state funded insurance ( aka tax dollars) are going to foot the estimated 1 million dollar bill for prenatal care.
cali just a humongous mess
and a shining example of how big liberally run government is a failure
all i can say is good luck
what you guys need right now is a huge earthquake to stimulate your economy....sorry i got a really morbid sense of humor sometimes
LOL
give a reason for the federal government to pump gobs of money into your state
and a shining example of how big liberally run government is a failure
all i can say is good luck
what you guys need right now is a huge earthquake to stimulate your economy....sorry i got a really morbid sense of humor sometimes
LOL
give a reason for the federal government to pump gobs of money into your state
I live in Cali and hear all about the city, county and state perks for gov't employees. Someone works for the gov't retires at 50 and gets paid 80-100% of their salary the reminder of their life while they're retired....and oh yeah, free medical coverage.
Is Cali the only state like this or do other states have similar benefits?
Is Cali the only state like this or do other states have similar benefits?
