Still not buying it.
Lots of talks of a targeted attack. Yet nobody knows why others are killed if a targeted attack and people can’t wrap their head around why others were killed
Anybody out there not on board with the why not kill others. Cause more confusion. Makes it more random. Gives less clues. Takes more questioning off possible suspects. Or what about the fact the others killed would have had information or who what where when information.
If for example, Bob kills his x GF or Co worker, and 5 others saw bob or know bob and his whereabouts that nite etc. If bob just kills the sole target he then has 5 people who can give information on him. May as well kill em all. Makes it look less likely bob involved and also takes witness and more information on bob out the window.
Police obviously know some strong details
If they were truly clueless, I’d imagine they wouldn’t be so quiet. And the threat to the community would not be so lax. Probably have the suspects and under observation. Just building and gathering solid evidence.
It’s obviously a rage induced situation. If the brutality of it is accurate. Definitely not clean kills. Wild raging slashing and stabbing it seems. Hints more to a sporadic emotional rage filled action. A true targeted killing involving someone with the skill set we may say,, probably goes for more quiet kills, back of the neck or more bleedout areas across neck/throat. Deep enough could cause more choking also. And less noise from the victim. It’s not too surprising no yelling occurred. Lungs throat etc especially if sleeping and never saw it coming would suck the air out or choking the victims. However, some flopping around type noise that time of quietness in the night I’d imagine is alarming. Unless some constant outside noise. Like construction or a party (college town) so possible.
Either the other victims became sudden targets to throw off the obvious and cause more confusion or they were potentially people who could have divulged important information of the attacker. Makes sense may as well take em out. Basically have too much information that lands the suspect as we all know they would be questioned.
The layout of house must have been known. And the conditions and likely characteristics of all victims known also. Example, drunk hard sleepers, night owls, suspicious or attentive aspects. If the plan was kill all four in this way, I’d imagine lots of details and confidence were a factor. Just randomly walking in being unknown to them as the killer would bring a lot of anxiety and probably mistakes upon the killer.
The bf/gf for example probably go to bed first and together. The other two may be more late night munchies and gossip giggle girls. Up and about in the kitchen etc. Or quick hard pass out sleepers. This is probably the kind of shit you want to know and gives confidence in committing such an act.
The dog is a throw off. Either the dog was down stairs or not at the house. Left outside is not an option. That’s a big dog and spoiled dog. Not some outside farm dog. If in the house it knew the person. If one of the x gf dog then not being killed itself probably links more to the x bf. Innocence of the animal etc and left alone. Someone had an attachment to the animal. Personally I see no way the dog was there for this to happen
It’s rage and emotional filled killings imo. A strong attachment to victims and were well known. The possibility of jealousy and rage from a roommate of random action to panic and cause. Sorority sisters can be jealous creatures and crazy. And any house with four chicks has a crazy eyed one. And Killed the others for confusion or cover up details of the night. To the x bf losing his shit are the two options imo. The xbf would obviously know characteristics of all four and nite routine and layout perfectly. Ways inside and out of the house without suspicion or knowing any locks or codes or alarm triggers.
The x bf appears to be loved by the family. Funny enough this could spark more confidence in him. Protection and alibi of the family. The he has them in his corner. They sure were quick to come to his defense one day after. Not targeting just the x gf makes it look all more the random. Also see he is 26 wtf. Reports they dated for awhile is suspect. Xgf is like 21. Definitely raises weak broken heart emotionally raged triggers. Especially if broken up. 7 missed calls to xbf. Either he called to throw it off as he would probably know gf password or didn’t answer as he was locked in on the crime to be done.
Reports are doors were locked to bedroom is odd. Not sure how you lock doors from outside. So roommates who call 911 seems sketch. Blood has to be everywhere. And what friends show up is weird. Especially if the x bf. If doors were locked I’d imagine they beat on them. And you would think the other roommates would be checked on and asked about roommates in question. If x bf showed up from call by roommates I believe it’s more against him. After all, 7 missed calls from the love of his life at 3 am and nobody asking why he didn’t call back? But answering roommates calls to show up to unconscious gf?
For the killing to be as horrific and messy as they say leads to more the emotional jealous rage. And has to be tied to someone with deeper emotional attachment to victims.
Chrishansen is now lead detective, great stuff above.
if it is ever reported that BF or BF Family Lawyered UP- we will know it’s him just like that ugly BF dude in the Gabbie Petino Case.
Random Stalker Dude Going to House Sees Multiple Cars in Parking Lot ,would tough for me to believe, he says I can do this ,fuck it I got a knife I can take them all.
I agree with many things above has to know house lay out , know victims, weak, drunk, tired, knows schedule. Is the X that smart to leave phone at home , knows I’d codes of girls to call him, ping shows phone at his house for alibi or where they scared and called him for help, cuz some dude freaking ‘‘em out.
Landlord or Landlord son, or Landlord Maintenance Worker +750
Pissed off Neighbors cause of Constant Party Noise +2000
Person living in Brick Building Apartment Complex Above +2500
Someone At the Frat Party +2500
U of I Student -190
U of I Employee or Faculty Member + 1000
if it is ever reported that BF or BF Family Lawyered UP- we will know it’s him just like that ugly BF dude in the Gabbie Petino Case.
Random Stalker Dude Going to House Sees Multiple Cars in Parking Lot ,would tough for me to believe, he says I can do this ,fuck it I got a knife I can take them all.
I agree with many things above has to know house lay out , know victims, weak, drunk, tired, knows schedule. Is the X that smart to leave phone at home , knows I’d codes of girls to call him, ping shows phone at his house for alibi or where they scared and called him for help, cuz some dude freaking ‘‘em out.
Landlord or Landlord son, or Landlord Maintenance Worker +750
Pissed off Neighbors cause of Constant Party Noise +2000
Person living in Brick Building Apartment Complex Above +2500
Someone At the Frat Party +2500
U of I Student -190
U of I Employee or Faculty Member + 1000
Cold case
Girl bought a brand new Range Rover own money per mom day before. This chick must had only fans. Nice chunk dough for whip like that at 21. Who has her OF account? Clues gotta be there.
Trump -1300
Only fans stalker +125
X bf -105
Roommate involved-135
John Rambo drifter +165
Mafia hired hit +186
Random peep n Tom building behind +145
The dog +700
Give me the dog +700
Nobody talking about the dog and hasn’t said a word! Sus
Parlay
X bf and sorority gal for +275 odds
Teaser 4 points! Teasing down all 4 kills to one. 4 on 4 teaser
Trump 1 kill
Xbf 1 kill
Roommate 1 kill
Roommate 1 kill
Trump -1300
Only fans stalker +125
X bf -105
Roommate involved-135
John Rambo drifter +165
Mafia hired hit +186
Random peep n Tom building behind +145
The dog +700
Give me the dog +700
Nobody talking about the dog and hasn’t said a word! Sus
Parlay
X bf and sorority gal for +275 odds
Teaser 4 points! Teasing down all 4 kills to one. 4 on 4 teaser
Trump 1 kill
Xbf 1 kill
Roommate 1 kill
Roommate 1 kill
Nothing new
How about murder,suicide,murder.
1 victim kills 3
Then roommate kills that person
I should be a detective,case closed
It’s a shit show. For fucks sake so much BS going on. I’ve heard 3 jacks. Jack the neighbor at food truck, jack the x bf and a jack the other girls bf. How many Fucking jacks in Idaho? I still don’t buy the roommates either. Just no way they know nothing
Police are giving clues though. For instance saying they clear the male who the girls called 7 times. They won’t say Jack Smith or Tom Wilson. They just say male.
Landlord just said she often comes in and the girls don’t hear her because they are studying and have headphones in. No the old lady landlord ain’t kill em. But sure is weird she says that. Plus wtf just walks in? Her grandson the killer and she tossing smoke in the ring. No damn landlord just walks in a property
The fuzz keeps saying cleared on several people. But that doesn’t mean anything. And they are scrubbing from the net all sorts of people information or social etc.
If they were totally clueless I’d imagine they spit out more information on questions of help.
2 roommates still living never heard or saw a thing.
I don't know.
I'm going to hear you in my home that's for sure.
Depends. Not if it’s the sloppy blood bath they say. Possible just one person. The way they were stabbed or slit and how many times and where needs be known also.
3 rooms. 2 separate floors. That time night vs tiny gals sleeping plus bit intoxicating. Walk in pillow over gal pin down stab or slice away. Wait minute make sure all quiet. Move to next girl in her bedroom across the way. Rinse repeat. Being they are full blown asleep as said, something that unexpected and quick will take a second for the body n mind process what’s happening. If smothered with pillow and being straddled it lessens the movement of them. Keeps it quieter. And they likely die in the bed. Not much struggle. Good punch in gut nobody can scream. Same principle a knife in the lungs even worse.
Now the tricky part is the GF BF upstairs. I’d say hindsight says go after the guy first. Depending on how sleeping positions, I’d probably go GF first. Smaller and more likely to scream. Easier to immobilize. Plus guys can sleep lil harder less likely to wake up in act and no scream high pitch sounds. Go BF first more likely more movement and GF wakes up. And probably going to have more a struggle with the girl.
Pillow over GF, easier hold still also if stabbing away. Nice slow deep jab in lungs suck the air out of screams. Across the throat. Limits and muffs and sound. Anything across the neck deep won’t allow any screams too bad. Jump on the big guy with pillow stab away. Let ole girl probably just grasp her neck and flop around. She won’t be making any noise via mouth. Try n handle the guy from to much restraint and making noise wrestling around.
I can understand the no screams n yelling. Or no physical altercations like crazy fighting. But some kind of thump n bumping had to go down. Hardwood floors, three floors for sound to travel. That time of night is always super quiet. Unless outside party noise masked it.
The kill time with a knife can easily be under 60 seconds. Bleed out 2-3. Aorta Carotid Jug Femoral can all bleed out in 2-3 minutes. Loss of consciousness will happen before actual death. So 2-3 quick deep stabs to lungs (proper knife) and to the throat or to the throat then stab away quick fast hard rapid anywhere.
