Rush Limbaugh's sentiments were not racist in origin, race just happened to be part of his ill advised topic. Mcnabb is a great quarterback regardless of how many journalists want him to fail or succeed because of his race. He is good regardless of whether or not people think he is not a traditional quarterback. This fool has taken his team to the NFC by himself the last three years. You Put Brady, Manning, & Warner Pre 2003 in that situation, and I almost guarantee there would not be three successive trips to the NFC Dance...I find it interesting that whenever a traditional style, pocket passer QB fails to get the job done, Excuses can be made. But when scrambling unorthodox Like Vick, Mcnabb fail to get the job done, they dont belong in the NFL...with all that being said... Mcnabb and Manning will both win superbowls in the future given the right tools.
McNabb is not let me repeat NOT a great QB. The one and only reason Philadelphia was in the playoffs the last 3 years was because of their defense. This year they made it because of their weak division.
The reason they lost the last 3 NFC Championships was NO offense plain and simple.
They played St. Louis a great game 2 years ago. Can you say great defense NO offense.
They got BEAT by Tampa Bay last year.
They got embarrassed yesterday. NO OFFENSE
Thank goodness we won't have to watch them in the playoffs next year.
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The reason they lost the last 3 NFC Championships was NO offense plain and simple.
They played St. Louis a great game 2 years ago. Can you say great defense NO offense.
They got BEAT by Tampa Bay last year.
They got embarrassed yesterday. NO OFFENSE
Thank goodness we won't have to watch them in the playoffs next year.
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Because of their defense? you mean the same defense that gave up 180 yards rushing per game?
You are right though that the Eagles, other than Mcnabb, have absolutely ZERO offensive weapons. They absolutely have the worst receiving corps in the league. ARizona has a much better receiving corps. That is why theyve lost. When youre only weapon is your QB you can easily stop that if you have a good defense.
You are right though that the Eagles, other than Mcnabb, have absolutely ZERO offensive weapons. They absolutely have the worst receiving corps in the league. ARizona has a much better receiving corps. That is why theyve lost. When youre only weapon is your QB you can easily stop that if you have a good defense.
DirtyDog.....Well said! If that had been a white manager or player saying those exact same comments.....they would have been fired or replaced. Political Correctness and bias does exist in the media and in the front office.
It's ok for someone who is black to call out against someone who is black using racial terms. But it's not ok for someone who is white to do so. PC plays into comments where it is not the real issue at hand. The media will always twist and spin comments as they choose, that is part of their job.
I think what it really shows is just how uneducated people really are when they make a comment like that. Your Manning issue about Rush is dead-on-the-money. Rush most likly would still be at ESPN.
Our society has gotten so caught up in the PC of things that it misses what the real issues are at hand. However, if the issues are truly racial bias.....then so be it.
The media is always calling the shots and pointing out the spins the way they want to present them. It's all about the corporate things these days and they see only half the real picture.
Blame them, not Rush. They are the ones who choose what to blow up and what to ignour. The Rush thing is sad to me because why did ESPN hire him and then expect to sit on him?
I thought and expected Rush to be Rush on that show. It's too bad that ESPN did what they did. Not in getting rid of Rush, but hiring him in the first place and then try to control him to fit the corporate way.
This is a case of PC at it's best. That is what the real issue is at hand and the media is to take part of the blame for twisting the real issues at hand.
It's ok for someone who is black to call out against someone who is black using racial terms. But it's not ok for someone who is white to do so. PC plays into comments where it is not the real issue at hand. The media will always twist and spin comments as they choose, that is part of their job.
I think what it really shows is just how uneducated people really are when they make a comment like that. Your Manning issue about Rush is dead-on-the-money. Rush most likly would still be at ESPN.
Our society has gotten so caught up in the PC of things that it misses what the real issues are at hand. However, if the issues are truly racial bias.....then so be it.
The media is always calling the shots and pointing out the spins the way they want to present them. It's all about the corporate things these days and they see only half the real picture.
Blame them, not Rush. They are the ones who choose what to blow up and what to ignour. The Rush thing is sad to me because why did ESPN hire him and then expect to sit on him?
I thought and expected Rush to be Rush on that show. It's too bad that ESPN did what they did. Not in getting rid of Rush, but hiring him in the first place and then try to control him to fit the corporate way.
This is a case of PC at it's best. That is what the real issue is at hand and the media is to take part of the blame for twisting the real issues at hand.
This is just the same cycle played over and over. McNabb starts the season 2-3 all banged up (most QB's don't even play with 1/10th of the pain he does) and after he FINALLY gets the wrap off his hand his team proceeds to win out in the regular season save for one OT tipped INT against the Niners. The McNabb haters were out in the beginning of the year, then they went into hiding for 3+ months and now that the Birds lost in the NFC championship game (4 teams have BEEN there in the last 3 years...only one has sustained enough excellence to come back 3 in a row...Tampa didn't even make the playoffs this season and where were the Rams last year) they're back and they want people to assume they were here all along. It's easy to kick him while he's down but the fact of the matter is he gave this team a chance to win the football game. A ridiculous personal foul that wasn't called and injured him changed the way he could play the rest of the game. Donovan put the ball where he had to...he would be the LAST person to blame for this loss.
To say he's not a pocket passer is ridiculous. Against Arizona last year with a broken leg he stood in the pocket and threw 4 touchdown passes in a big win before having to be put into surgery.
Donovan is not without his faults but I wouldn't have any other QB running the show for the Eagles. This loss gets blamed on his supporting cast on offense and on the offensive line (which hasn't come through the latter half of the season period). The Birds will be back...I'm not worried about this team right now.
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To say he's not a pocket passer is ridiculous. Against Arizona last year with a broken leg he stood in the pocket and threw 4 touchdown passes in a big win before having to be put into surgery.
Donovan is not without his faults but I wouldn't have any other QB running the show for the Eagles. This loss gets blamed on his supporting cast on offense and on the offensive line (which hasn't come through the latter half of the season period). The Birds will be back...I'm not worried about this team right now.
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Sportsbet, you gaveme 15 reasons why Philly would beat Carolina. I told you Fox would stop the run and force McNabb to throw from the pocket.
All that playoff experience you talked about was wasted. Carolina contained McNabb then exposed their weakness (pocket passer and receivers)
I could go thru all 15, but that would be flaming. Better luck next time.
All that playoff experience you talked about was wasted. Carolina contained McNabb then exposed their weakness (pocket passer and receivers)
I could go thru all 15, but that would be flaming. Better luck next time.
What hurt the Eagles was the injuries to the D, creating the inability to stop the run. McNabb is not a come-from-behind qb. However Rush was right about the NFL's need to prop McNabb up. The simple reason he gets more credit than McNair is the market size.
BTW the best reason not to vote for the Eagles is Freddie Mitchell - "The People's Champion". Did he leave the belt on the field?
BTW the best reason not to vote for the Eagles is Freddie Mitchell - "The People's Champion". Did he leave the belt on the field?
Im still waiting for one of you Rush limbaugh racists to answer this question for me.
Try to pick, without looking up the answer, which pair of stats belong to Donovan McNabb after 3 years starting in the NFL. There are 4 groups. One belongs to McNabb. The others belong to John Elway, Fran Tarkenton and Joe Montana. It is also only including passing yards and passing TD's. McNabb's strength isn't even included in the calucation.
Group 1:
Total Yards: 7,973
Total TD's: 51
Group 2:
Total Yards: 6,903
Total TD's: 55
Group 3:
Total Yards:7,546
Total TD's: 54
Group 4:
Total Yards: 8,152
Total TD's: 47
Try to pick, without looking up the answer, which pair of stats belong to Donovan McNabb after 3 years starting in the NFL. There are 4 groups. One belongs to McNabb. The others belong to John Elway, Fran Tarkenton and Joe Montana. It is also only including passing yards and passing TD's. McNabb's strength isn't even included in the calucation.
Group 1:
Total Yards: 7,973
Total TD's: 51
Group 2:
Total Yards: 6,903
Total TD's: 55
Group 3:
Total Yards:7,546
Total TD's: 54
Group 4:
Total Yards: 8,152
Total TD's: 47
I think rush had a point but he's bringing race into it which i believe is not correct. IMO the reason the media latches on to black qb's is because it's a different style of play that they bring to the table ( more scrambling and running)which the media and well as some fans feel most qb's of the future will play like. i disagree personally. the media might go out of their way once in awhile to make sure they are giving praise where it's do or make sure they're not excluding anyone who deserves it and this might cause extra hype for a certain player. many players not just black ones are overhyped and overrated. you can say that about anyone. I'm not a McNabb fan but he's a decent QB not a great one, maybe he can be someday. His receivers aren't that great i agree with that and this can affect his play as well and it has. He's a good QB not a great one. He's still got alot of carrer left to determine how that plays out.
maybe the stat of no TD's in the last 119 minutes of NFC CHAMPIOSHIP PLAY, will get him into the HALL.
come on guy, you seriously don't think he's going to the HALL.
hey with that 22 mil, maybe they'll get terrible owens and keyshawn jackoff and then you guys will get there. YES, AND I'M GOING TO WIN THE POWERBALL.
2 QB's from NFL EUROPE can get there in 2 years.
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE NAME "CUNNINGHAM"
come on guy, you seriously don't think he's going to the HALL.
hey with that 22 mil, maybe they'll get terrible owens and keyshawn jackoff and then you guys will get there. YES, AND I'M GOING TO WIN THE POWERBALL.
2 QB's from NFL EUROPE can get there in 2 years.
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE NAME "CUNNINGHAM"
nyc,
you are easily the SIMPLEST poster on the rx --"somone answer my question -- after three years who's stats....." the only thing more irrelevant then that stat is your argument! what about his stats on 3pm games, when it rained the tuesday before, and he's wearing pink socks???? man, just shut up -- do yourself a favor!!!
your obvious hatred for conservatives has you so blinded that you don't know what the hell is going on???? or all that dope smoking has really fried your brain.
just stop! PLEASE!
lol
you are easily the SIMPLEST poster on the rx --"somone answer my question -- after three years who's stats....." the only thing more irrelevant then that stat is your argument! what about his stats on 3pm games, when it rained the tuesday before, and he's wearing pink socks???? man, just shut up -- do yourself a favor!!!
your obvious hatred for conservatives has you so blinded that you don't know what the hell is going on???? or all that dope smoking has really fried your brain.
just stop! PLEASE!
lol
1. Philly's been there before...this is new to Carolina.
1a. Obviously being new to this didn't bother the Panthers. But Carolina had little to do with the victory.
2. McNabb is a better QB than Delhomme.
2a. He still is...Delhomme threw one wounded quail for a TD. That's all he did.
3. Staley and Buck will have a great day running on a Carolina D Line that is built for the pass rush. Ask the Packers about 9 yards a carry Staley.
3b. Averaged over 5 yards a carry vs Panthers only 3.9 per carry.
4. Carolina's secondary is not as good as Green Bay's...and McNabb torched GB. Pinkston, Thrash, Lewis, Smith, Mitchell and the backs will get open and make plays.
4b. I was partly wrong here as our receivers embarrassed the franchise. But tipped balls for INT's aren't anything exciting. The Panthers did well but Arizona could've done well the way they played.
5. Eagles were in the red zone 5 times against Carolina in Carolina. They will be in the red zone more than that at home.
5b. They were in the red zone enough times to win this game.
6. They have no answer for McNabb's scrambling.
6b. They didn't...they had to injure him on a dirty play to keep him contained.
7. Troy Vincent feels very, very good and can cover ANY of the Carolian wideouts one-on-one. The defense will have a field day blitzing the Panthers.
7b. He can..Vincent did a good job in coverage. He wasn't beaten for any big plays or any TD's.
8. Stephen Davis is questionable. Even if he plays he will not be 100 percent. Davis and Foster combined don't have the talent of Ahman Green. Green got his yards but was kept out of the end zone. Expect more of the same.
8b. Davis was average at best. Foster was ok but not great. Their offense was pretty anemic and vanilla.
9. The Eagles defense was worse off in the win at Carolina than they are now. Taylor struggled in his first game back after missing the previous 5 and 9 of the previous 10. He will not struggle Sunday with his partner in crime back in the secondary.
9b. The defense played well enough to win. One wounded duck for a TD and bad tackling in the 2nd half hurt them but they didn't lose this game.
10. Davis ran for 115 yds on 23 carries against the Birds. But when it counted Davis was stopped (4th and 1 at the 8 yard line right at the end of the first half). Eagles defense will continue to play that way...bend but don't break.
10b. They were bend but don't break. They broke on one wounded duck pass and one poor tackling play in the 2nd half but otherwise the D played good enough to win.
11. Dawkins is healthy. Enough said.
11b. He didn't play the wounded duck well but that's not his fault. Taylor admits he was the one to blame.
12. January 27th, 2002
12b. The first loss and their best effort in this game.
13. January 19th, 2003
13b. The second loss..a bad one but this one was worse.
14. David Akers will outkick Kasay any day of the week.
14b. He did...Akers 3 points Kasay 2.
15. Nobody has ever hosted back-to-back conference championship games and lost them both.
15b. Until now...it's a shame the way they played yesterday but nothing can be done now.
Hope this clears it up buzz.
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1a. Obviously being new to this didn't bother the Panthers. But Carolina had little to do with the victory.
2. McNabb is a better QB than Delhomme.
2a. He still is...Delhomme threw one wounded quail for a TD. That's all he did.
3. Staley and Buck will have a great day running on a Carolina D Line that is built for the pass rush. Ask the Packers about 9 yards a carry Staley.
3b. Averaged over 5 yards a carry vs Panthers only 3.9 per carry.
4. Carolina's secondary is not as good as Green Bay's...and McNabb torched GB. Pinkston, Thrash, Lewis, Smith, Mitchell and the backs will get open and make plays.
4b. I was partly wrong here as our receivers embarrassed the franchise. But tipped balls for INT's aren't anything exciting. The Panthers did well but Arizona could've done well the way they played.
5. Eagles were in the red zone 5 times against Carolina in Carolina. They will be in the red zone more than that at home.
5b. They were in the red zone enough times to win this game.
6. They have no answer for McNabb's scrambling.
6b. They didn't...they had to injure him on a dirty play to keep him contained.
7. Troy Vincent feels very, very good and can cover ANY of the Carolian wideouts one-on-one. The defense will have a field day blitzing the Panthers.
7b. He can..Vincent did a good job in coverage. He wasn't beaten for any big plays or any TD's.
8. Stephen Davis is questionable. Even if he plays he will not be 100 percent. Davis and Foster combined don't have the talent of Ahman Green. Green got his yards but was kept out of the end zone. Expect more of the same.
8b. Davis was average at best. Foster was ok but not great. Their offense was pretty anemic and vanilla.
9. The Eagles defense was worse off in the win at Carolina than they are now. Taylor struggled in his first game back after missing the previous 5 and 9 of the previous 10. He will not struggle Sunday with his partner in crime back in the secondary.
9b. The defense played well enough to win. One wounded duck for a TD and bad tackling in the 2nd half hurt them but they didn't lose this game.
10. Davis ran for 115 yds on 23 carries against the Birds. But when it counted Davis was stopped (4th and 1 at the 8 yard line right at the end of the first half). Eagles defense will continue to play that way...bend but don't break.
10b. They were bend but don't break. They broke on one wounded duck pass and one poor tackling play in the 2nd half but otherwise the D played good enough to win.
11. Dawkins is healthy. Enough said.
11b. He didn't play the wounded duck well but that's not his fault. Taylor admits he was the one to blame.
12. January 27th, 2002
12b. The first loss and their best effort in this game.
13. January 19th, 2003
13b. The second loss..a bad one but this one was worse.
14. David Akers will outkick Kasay any day of the week.
14b. He did...Akers 3 points Kasay 2.
15. Nobody has ever hosted back-to-back conference championship games and lost them both.
15b. Until now...it's a shame the way they played yesterday but nothing can be done now.
Hope this clears it up buzz.
sb
Eagles had:
More first downs...
More total yards...
More yards per carry...
More passing yards...
Half as many punts...
Less penalties...
But they lost where it counted...the scoreboard. Carolina didn't exactly "dominate" this game.
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More first downs...
More total yards...
More yards per carry...
More passing yards...
Half as many punts...
Less penalties...
But they lost where it counted...the scoreboard. Carolina didn't exactly "dominate" this game.
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