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If a doctor refuses service to a gay lesbian couple expecting a baby, the chances of an EMS worker out there not giving his/her 100% effort to care for or save life of a gay person is just as good. This subject is still a slippery slope, it doesn't matter if it's a business or the medical field. Why do folks still worry about who other folks sleep with? This is 2015 for God's sake. And of course the Republicans back this. Nobody picks losing positions these days quite like the GOP.

Ha, pal this type of law isn't going to change whether an EMS worker is "out there not giving his/her 100% effort to care for or save life of a gay person" or not. You know there is big difference between catering a gay wedding and intentionally letting a person die because of their sexuality, right? I mean this isn't apples to oranges, this is apples to grenades.
 
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I don't know why I bother because people are going to cling to their ignorance, but RFRA is a three-prong test.

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And if you are saying that Indiana's law enabled discrimination, you're either stupid or lying. There is no other answer.

Every single person who comments on this issue, needs to read this brilliant graphic.
 

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Thinking about starting a fund me page to open a pizza joint just to serve gay weddings :think2:
 

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If a doctor refuses service to a gay lesbian couple expecting a baby, the chances of an EMS worker out there not giving his/her 100% effort to care for or save life of a gay person are just as good. This subject is still a slippery slope, it doesn't matter if it's a business or the medical field. Why do folks still worry about who other folks sleep with? This is 2015 for God's sake. And of course the Republicans back this. Nobody picks losing positions these days quite like the GOP.

That's not the story from the example you provided. It was a couple that had already had a baby and was coming in for a simple checkup.

EMS would refuse to treat a gay/lesbian person in serious danger? Just dumb. It's against the law and they'll go to jail. This is not even close to the same thing as not catering a gay pizza party.
 

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I know someone who got hurt pretty bad in the marathon bombings but nothing significant or long-term to my knowledge (just someone I knew, not a friend) and their page raised like 7-800k and they had health insurance to pay for the injuries. I think he actually got to keep a pretty significant amount of the $.

I could be wrong but I think the people who donated were under the impression the $ went to medical bills.

O/T but an interesting story I thought. People just dying to find a cause to give to.
 

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And? You go to another doctor. It's not like the kid was in a life-threatening situation. It was the kid's pre-natal checkup. Who wants to be treated by a doctor that doesn't believe in your relationship?
Yes, but this law has the feel of the Jim Crow south to me. If certain people don't want gays frequenting their restaurants or doctors refusing services, you don't think the government needs to intervene? I can't believe you would be okay with this?
 

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Yes, but this law has the feel of the Jim Crow south to me. If certain people don't want gays frequenting their restaurants or doctors refusing services, you don't think the government needs to intervene? I can't believe you would be okay with this?

The pizza place owner said he has gays in his restaurant all the time and serves them just fine. That's not the issue. It's the issue of a gay wedding. It's very different. Don't you understand?
 

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I know someone who got hurt pretty bad in the marathon bombings but nothing significant or long-term to my knowledge (just someone I knew, not a friend) and their page raised like 7-800k and they had health insurance to pay for the injuries. I think he actually got to keep a pretty significant amount of the $.

I could be wrong but I think the people who donated were under the impression the $ went to medical bills.

O/T but an interesting story I thought. People just dying to find a cause to give to.

I saw a go fund me page set up the other day for a guy to get surgery for his dog. Half of these things are bullshit.
 

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I saw a go fund me page set up the other day for a guy to get surgery for his dog. Half of these things are bullshit.

Yeah obviously it wasn't BS because a tragedy did happen but he had health insurance to pay for the injuries and its not like he had a massive expenditure like needing a new leg every 15-20 years like others in the bombing.

I remember there was an article in the Globe and he was actually quoted as saying something like "Yeah I'm gonna use this to help pay off my house" I was really surprised he said something like that in public.
 
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Yes, but this law has the feel of the Jim Crow south to me. If certain people don't want gays frequenting their restaurants or doctors refusing services, you don't think the government needs to intervene? I can't believe you would be okay with this?

Am I allowed to be okay with the pizza guy refusing to cater a gay wedding but not be okay with the pizza guy refusing to serve gay individuals in his restaurant? I mean you realize the circumstances are different in the two instances, right?
 

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Fwiw don't think GoSooners cares about refusing to cater a gay wedding. Just moreso about the law in general.
 

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Am I allowed to be okay with the pizza guy refusing to cater a gay wedding but not be okay with the pizza guy refusing to serve gay individuals in his restaurant? I mean you realize the circumstances are different in the two instances, right?
Oregon doesn't have this law, but there are no laws there that say you have to go cater a gay wedding or make a cake that says "Evangelicals rock." So I'm not sure what your point is. When the law says that businesses can't discriminate against a class or group of people, and the courts determin that a business is discriminating, they are liable to be punished in some way for their illegal behavior. If you don't like the laws then change them, which is exactly what a vocal group of Americans are trying to do in Indiana. What i don't get about this is why a little pizza place with everything to lose, has an owner open his mouth against a certain group of people saying he won't serve them. It's just STUPID business. I wouldn't give a shit if someone was black, Muslim, Christian, bi-sexual, white or pink polka dot, JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY. Cash is nature's great equalizer. If you have a payng customer, that is a GOOD thing. This country is going broke worrying about all of this crap. Someone is going to be less gay because you turned down a profit? Unless your selling nuclear bombs, go for the green. This is really a stupid country.
 

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Oregon doesn't have this law, but there are no laws there that say you have to go cater a gay wedding or make a cake that says "Evangelicals rock." So I'm not sure what your point is. When the law says that businesses can't discriminate against a class or group of people, and the courts determin that a business is discriminating, they are liable to be punished in some way for their illegal behavior. If you don't like the laws then change them, which is exactly what a vocal group of Americans are trying to do in Indiana. What i don't get about this is why a little pizza place with everything to lose, has an owner open his mouth against a certain group of people saying he won't serve them. It's just STUPID business. I wouldn't give a shit if someone was black, Muslim, Christian, bi-sexual, white or pink polka dot, JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY. Cash is nature's great equalizer. If you have a payng customer, that is a GOOD thing. This country is going broke worrying about all of this crap. Someone is going to be less gay because you turned down a profit? Unless your selling nuclear bombs, go for the green. This is really a stupid country.

How is it stupid business? They are about to become rural indiana-rich.

Also she was asked a loaded question that had pretty much no real world legitimacy.
 
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Oregon doesn't have this law, but there are no laws there that say you have to go cater a gay wedding or make a cake that says "Evangelicals rock." So I'm not sure what your point is. When the law says that businesses can't discriminate against a class or group of people, and the courts determin that a business is discriminating, they are liable to be punished in some way for their illegal behavior. If you don't like the laws then change them, which is exactly what a vocal group of Americans are trying to do in Indiana. What i don't get about this is why a little pizza place with everything to lose, have an owner open his mouth against a certain group of people saying he won't serve them. It's just STUPID business. I wouldn't give a shit if someone was black, Muslim, Christian, bi-sexual, white or pink polka dot, JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY. Cash is nature's great equalizer. If you have a payng customer, that is a GOOD thing. This country is going broke worrying about all of this crap. Someone is going to be less gay because you turned down a profit? Unless your selling nuclear bombs, go for the green. This is really a stupid country.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the little pizza place you refer to didn't say they he won't serve them, he said he wouldn't cater a wedding. Also, I agree with a lot of you're saying here (although I still think the EMS workers letting people die argument is insane). As I said earlier, I would think gay people would prefer to know who does and does not want to serve them. If I happened to be gay, I wouldn't want to spend my money anywhere I wouldn't be welcomed because of my sexuality and as a business owner, I can't imagine wanting to turn away a paying customer for something as stupid as their sexuality.
 

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Oregon doesn't have this law, but there are no laws there that say you have to go cater a gay wedding or make a cake that says "Evangelicals rock." So I'm not sure what your point is. When the law says that businesses can't discriminate against a class or group of people, and the courts determin that a business is discriminating, they are liable to be punished in some way for their illegal behavior. If you don't like the laws then change them, which is exactly what a vocal group of Americans are trying to do in Indiana. What i don't get about this is why a little pizza place with everything to lose, has an owner open his mouth against a certain group of people saying he won't serve them. It's just STUPID business. I wouldn't give a shit if someone was black, Muslim, Christian, bi-sexual, white or pink polka dot, JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY. Cash is nature's great equalizer. If you have a payng customer, that is a GOOD thing. This country is going broke worrying about all of this crap. Someone is going to be less gay because you turned down a profit? Unless your selling nuclear bombs, go for the green. This is really a stupid country.

For about the 10th time in this thread, he never said he wouldn't serve anyone. He said he wouldn't cater a gay wedding. You keep changing the narrative to fit your ideals.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the little pizza place you refer to didn't say they he won't serve them, he said he wouldn't cater a wedding. Also, I agree with a lot of you're saying here (although I still think the EMS workers letting people die argument is insane). As I said earlier, I would think gay people would prefer to know who does and does not want to serve them. If I happened to be gay, I wouldn't want to spend my money anywhere I wouldn't be welcomed because of my sexuality and as a business owner, I can't imagine wanting to turn away a paying customer for something as stupid as their sexuality.
The problem with this law is where does it end? We all know what the views are of this pizza place owner. My guess is if he could tell the difference between a gay and a straight person he wouldn't serve them either. But everybody acts like this is just a gay thing. What if one of these business owners doesn't like interracial couples and won't serve them? Where does it start and end with this law? Nothing about it smells right. The good part is capitalism is going to fix this problem. Even Walmart is in agreement now..
 

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