Pro-Life or Pro-Choice

[COVERIT!]

I'm a NUT Job ??? Because I don't Cling to a Bible and I'm open Minded and know whats really going on but I'm a nut job?? Any of you nut jobs who don't think this wasted war of $10 billion a month didn't break this country are the TRUE NUT JOBS!

It was more a crack at you saying the people that lost their lives in NY, (9/11) was our government's fault. Let me guess, we blew up the towers, or had it planned?

 

[Dave007inVegas]

In fall of 1980, a young lassie I met from Reno OK became In A Bad Way after a weekend of partying with your Humble Narrator in Dallas TX

She informed me about six weeks in and with my great encouragement and support, aborted that embryonic scudder with Extreme Prejudice

But since then never had to consider it in my house

Not gettin any eh? :Carcajada:

 

[Coldweather]

I am pro life and do not support a women's right to kill the baby under any circumstances. Unless of course the baby looks like this here one!

:sadbb::sadbb::sadbb<)<(<)<(<)<

 

[barman]

Roll call amigos...how many supported Octuplet mom's unwavering right to choose as she sees fit for her body?

"crickets chirping" ...dead thread...dead ahead

I would be aghast if there were any legal penalties levied against OctoMom based on her personal decision to birth eight new mouths.

I think she's in need of psychiatric help, but I most certainly would not endorse the government criminalizing her personal decisions on when, where and how many infants she wishes to spit out.

 

[barman]

Afterthought: I wouldn't want to be the one on judgment day to tell the man upstairs I terminated a human life because it was more convenient for my lifestyle or circumstances....

*Every day is judgement day wherein we are all judged by the universe on all our choices, so no need to wait until some penultimate tribunal wherein God looks down on you from high upon Her Throne and waits for your allocution of all the times you were a Bad Boy

* "Woman" upstairs

:grandmais

 

[barman]

Not gettin any eh? :Carcajada:

heh...Weep not for your Florida bro

Been blessed to get my share of booty during past 13 years, but two (including my current wife) couldn't get pregnant and the other two used birth control and were very agreeable to terminating any pregnancy that might slip through that Wall of Security

 

[fuloser]

In case of rape or incest or when the mothers life is in serious danger, I think it's ok. Stupid teens messing around and knocking the girl up is not an excuse and that's the majority of abortions these days.

And to the idiot who made a statement about George Bush "murdering" people. That has no logical basis whatsoever. He was a terrible president but by no means did he "murder" anyone.

 

[Dodgingpotholes]

i am "pro-life" but do not feel it's the government's position to tell people what to do. if folks cannot figure out that this is murder i feel sorry for them, but i have no interest in debating it

i do find it rather disgusting that every pro-abortion person goes to the "rape" card, like that is the major reason for the % of abortions performed. fn ridiculous

The real conservative position is pro-choice but the Republicans pick and choose when they want government in our life and when they want them out of our lives. Look at Barry Goldwater's position on this. Less government involvement in our life.

 

[fuloser]

How do YOU know she can't support them?

I'd like to see that financial analysis you have there.

Once again...it's been pounded in our head...it's totally her decision to decide what to do with her body.

It's certainly not yours.

Next?

Where do you stop then? What about illegal substances that people abuse. Let them use it because it's their own body? Seriously man. It's her body up until the baby is delivered. By taking that stance you have no credibility arguing against partial birth abortions either.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

heh...Weep not for your Florida bro

Been blessed to get my share of booty during past 13 years, but two (including my current wife) couldn't get pregnant and the other two used birth control and were very agreeable to terminating any pregnancy that might slip through that Wall of Security

No weeping here Romeo, just jerking your chain so to speak, carry on. (<)<

 

[Mistermj]

Where do you stop then? What about illegal substances that people abuse. Let them use it because it's their own body? Seriously man. It's her body up until the baby is delivered. By taking that stance you have no credibility arguing against partial birth abortions either.

Where do you stop then? What about illegal substances that people abuse. Let them use it because it's their own body?

Of course that is what we should do...drug war failed.

Who are you to tell me what I put in my body?

I am against abortions...my credibility stands just as well for partial birth abortions.

 

[Willie99]

The real conservative position is pro-choice but the Republicans pick and choose when they want government in our life and when they want them out of our lives. Look at Barry Goldwater's position on this. Less government involvement in our life.

Well, I think real conservatives believe an unborn child has constitutional rights that must be protected, thus the only argument is when does life begin. When it can survive outside the womb, it can't reasonably be argued it's not a life. Although many on the left will argue it's not a life if the mother intended for it to be aborted, thus infanticide is OK (see your messiah).

Unlike your position on conservatives, I believe you make a great liberal. Make up whatever bullshit supports your logic at that moment, throw it against the wall and then call your opponents' arguments shallow or inconsistent.

There is one thing I can be certain of with respect to abortion, I'm not wrong. Maybe nobody is right, I doubt it, but I can't be wrong.

As for rights and morals, what the fuck do you boys think a society of laws is all about? What is the foundation of all laws?

Hint: MORALS

You see, as a civilized society, we impose morality 24/7. And I don't make morality part of my pro-life argument. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of that "impose my morals" argument.

hno:

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

Pro-life. I believe the movie silent scream indicates life begins a lot sooner than most people think. That movie was filmed with the help of an abortionist who headed planned parenthood, who stopped performing abortions after seeing the film.

Anyhow, I believe abortions have become too much a part of our society, and they will never be illegal again. However, I believe abortions must be stopped once a baby can survive outside the mother's womb. It can no longer be argued that it's not living. Well, not on an intellectual scale anyways. That baby has rights too.

Our President not only supports any abortion anywhere, he condones infanticide. Sounds to far fetched to be true, I know, but it is the truth. After all, in his words (kinda), "why defeat the intent of the abortion".

Bad character.

Please provide a link that shows that Obama condones infantcide.

 

[OnWisconsin]

Please provide a link that shows that Obama condones infantcide.

i believe he's referencing where the President was on tape as a Senator opposing protecting the life of a child who survives an abortion....

 

[Willie99]

Please provide a link that shows that Obama condones infantcide.

He opposed the "Born Alive Infants Protection Act" which required doctors to give medical care to babies that were actually living outside the mothers womb. He essentially said that allowing the baby to live was defeating the intent of the mother. I believe he was the only member of the IL congress to oppose this law.
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At the time, Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator. An almost exact copy of the federal bill was introduced in 2001. Obama opposed it, saying, “I mean it, it would essentially bar abortions because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.” Even though the baby would be completely separated from the mother. In 2003, the Illinois legislature added a neutrality clause to the bill, making it a virtual clone of the federal legislation. As chairman of the committee considering the bill, Obama again opposed it, saying, “… an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman …”

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unconscionable

 

[TomGshotput]

I am against unwanted pregnancies. Anyone with a different position is part of the problem

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

He opposed the "Born Alive Infants Protection Act" which required doctors to give medical care to babies that were actually living outside the mothers womb. He essentially said that allowing the baby to live was defeating the intent of the mother. I believe he was the only member of the IL congress to oppose this law.
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At the time, Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator. An almost exact copy of the federal bill was introduced in 2001. Obama opposed it, saying, “I mean it, it would essentially bar abortions because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.” Even though the baby would be completely separated from the mother. In 2003, the Illinois legislature added a neutrality clause to the bill, making it a virtual clone of the federal legislation. As chairman of the committee considering the bill, Obama again opposed it, saying, “… an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman …”

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unconscionable

Thanks.

This isn't as cut and dry to me as it is you, though if pressed I would probably agree with you.

 

[barman]

No weeping here Romeo, just jerking your chain so to speak, carry on. (<)<

D, you are one member here with who I never doubt the underlying friendly attitude

Meanwhile...in my younger days I would always drop a business card for the local abortion clinic on the nightstand when bedding down with a new friend...But too many complained it was a buzz kill

 

[JohnnyMac]

I am against unwanted pregnancies. Anyone with a different position is part of the problem

Agree.

If both sides would put all of their energy into preventing unwanted pregnancies, there would be a lot fewer abortions.

But, of course, there is one political party our there insists on pushing an "abstinence only" solution.

 

[Willie99]

Agree.

If both sides would put all of their energy into preventing unwanted pregnancies, there would be a lot fewer abortions.

But, of course, there is one political party our there insists on pushing an "abstinence only" solution.

And you want to be taken seriously?