Presidential Debate - Who Do You Like Tonight?

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#1cheater# said:
FYI, The worst mistake you can make while speaking is repeatidly saying "umm" 'Uh" How many times has Bush done this tonight?
"And stop sending mix messages!!!"


How many more times is he going to say it??? I get douche chills listening to Bush.
 
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you can TOTALLY see that kerry is there doing an "ACT" to try to catch up since he is losing...and bush is passionate.... I hope america can see this to
 

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Dante said:
you can TOTALLY see that kerry is there doing an "ACT" to try to catch up since he is losing...and bush is passionate.... I hope america can see this to

What do you mean by "Act"???
 

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I mean him acting all calm and debating like he was on a acting stage......no passion in his speech IMO
 

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I think kerry wins . .they are both undefeated but kerry has this much working for him:

2. he has a broader vocabulary he is more articulate he is incredibly honed on issues.
I think when you know what youre talking about, there is no reason to be overly animated and stutter all the time banging on the podium and what not. he just knows.
 

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Kerry has a 20 year record in the Senate that does not match his one liners tonight. You have to know his record to understand it's all an ACT. Phoney pie in the sky BS. One example is Kerry has never supported the US military over 20 years as a Senator voting against fbi funding, cia funding, military raises, equipment, tanks, planes and anything you can think of now he's for the military, fbi and cia after voting against the money to fund the war. It's an act to get elected, he doesn't mean it. Basically bombs with D's are good and bombs with R's are bad. The M TV crowd will fall for it, they'd vote for Kerry anyway. No ground lost, no matter how it's spun. Bush wins easy.
 

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MR. PRESIDENT - THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. GOOD NIGHT.


KERRY WINS GOING AWAY. :manwh:
 

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Unibomber,

Kerry has a 20 year record in the Senate that does not match his one liners tonight. You have to know his record to understand it's all an ACT. Phoney pie in the sky BS. One example is Kerry has never supported the US military over 20 years as a Senator voting against fbi funding, cia funding, military raises, equipment, tanks, planes and anything you can think of now he's for the military, fbi and cia after voting against the money to fund the war. It's an act to get elected, he doesn't mean it. Basically bombs with D's are good and bombs with R's are bad. The M TV crowd will fall for it, they'd vote for Kerry anyway. No ground lost, no matter how it's spun. Bush wins easy.
Bush Flip/flops just as much though:


BUSH vs. REALITY
BUSH: Mixed messages are bad for our troops, efforts in war on terror.

REALITY

Mixed Messages on Winning the War on Terror
“Can’t Win The War On Terror” Asked “Can we win [the war on terror]?” Bush said, “I don’t think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the - those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world.” [NBC, “The Today Show,” 8/30/04]

Mixed Messages on Osama Bin Laden
QUESTION: Do you want bin Laden dead?
BUSH: I want justice. And there’s an old poster out west, that I recall, that said, “Wanted, Dead or Alive.” [Bush Remarks, 9/17/01, emphasis added]

BUSH: “And [Osama Bin Laden is] just – he’s a person who has now been marginalized. His network is -- his host government has been destroyed. He’s the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match…So I don’t know where he is. Nor -- you know, I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him.” [Bush Remarks, 3/13/02]

Mixed Messages on Protecting the Homeland
Bush Thought Homeland Security Cabinet Position Was "Just Not Necessary” And Blocked Its Creation. In October 2001, White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said Bush opposed creating Office of Homeland Security position for Ridge. "[T]he president has suggested to members of Congress that they do not need to make this a statutory post, that he [Ridge] does not need Cabinet rank, for example, there does not need to be a Cabinet-level Office of Homeland Security is because there is such overlap among the various agencies, because every agency of the government has security concerns," Fleischer said. [White House Press Briefing, 10/24/01]



They're both full of ****. One just presents it better.
 

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thanks, 44-26% swing in favor of kerry post debate. .have fun with new polls
 

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Kerry was the clear winner of this debate tonight. Hands down.
 

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Bush is a tough debater, but I think tonight will be remembered as the night that Kerry finally made a strong case for what he will do as president. We've seen months of spins & Rove magic discredit Kerry by taking every other speech and twisting sound bytes of them out of context ...

I think Kerry won the debate, but let's be honest here --- he's behind and needs a convincing sweep to put the key states on his side (meaning FL, OH, WI, MN, NM, NH, ME, IA, OR, NV).
 
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Kerry clearly proved that he is the better speaker, but we already knew that.

For a debate that was basically pre-rehearsed, Bush couldn't have made himself look like any more of a fool- but the idiots will still vote for him regardless.

..and Kerry really needs to stop sending messed mixages.:toothless
 

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The makrts are clearly reacting...
Olympic just moved from -240 to -200
Tradesports has moved from 68+ (-210) earlier today to around 64 now (-180)

The markets have pronounced the winner tonight. Long way to go.
 

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can someone please tell what is up with this "smirk " that g bush always has on ,


like a little rich boy smirk..

bush seemed lost for words at the end. i thought dimentia was setting in. LISTEN everyone i know it was past his bedtime he was fumbling for words..:drink: :drink: :drink:
 

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