Peyton Manning: 42 61 604 68.9 9.90 80 3 1 2 110.3
Drew Brees: 51 68 669 75.0 9.84 58 9 2 2 132.9
Best QB this year.. Drew Brees.. Best QB over the last Decade, Peyton Manning
Sure brees played the Lions and the Eagles.. but Manning played against the Dolphins and the Jags.. the Jags let Kurt Warner go 24-26.. then we all saw the phins shit the bed the last quarter in the game and let Manning do what he does.. but stats dont lie.. kind hard to play from behind when the Saints score a TD every other possession.. not saying i wouldnt take Peyton in a clutch situation, but in defense of Brees, this isnt a run away debate this year or last..
Drew Brees: 51 68 669 75.0 9.84 58 9 2 2 132.9
Best QB this year.. Drew Brees.. Best QB over the last Decade, Peyton Manning
Sure brees played the Lions and the Eagles.. but Manning played against the Dolphins and the Jags.. the Jags let Kurt Warner go 24-26.. then we all saw the phins shit the bed the last quarter in the game and let Manning do what he does.. but stats dont lie.. kind hard to play from behind when the Saints score a TD every other possession.. not saying i wouldnt take Peyton in a clutch situation, but in defense of Brees, this isnt a run away debate this year or last..
So, just because you have better stats makes you a better QB?
The top 5 QB's last year, and their W/L's were:
1. Drew Brees 8-8 Bottom of their division
2. Kurt Warner 9-7 Lost the Super Bowl
3. Jay Cutler 8-8 No Playoffs
4. Aaron Rodgers 6-10 No Playoffs
5. Philip Rivers 8-8 Lucky to go to playoffs because their division sucks
I would take either Manning or Ben Roethlisberger over any of these QB's last year.
Kinda tough to base everything on stats now right?
The QB is the leader of the team. If they can't win they aren't as good...
So Brees last season was luck also?
iam just saying RIGHT NOW i would take Brees over any one .
and i don't think Manning is clutch like i said 10 times 8-7 in the playoffs and needing the pats to give him that game in 06 or he would be with out a ring . To be honest if Rex Grossman did not give that game away Manning would be with out a ring .With all that talent all thoes years only winning ONE SUPER BOWL is just like the ATL Braves only winnign one
cant win when it counts the most to me thats NOT CLUTCH
You keep putting down Manning, but what the hell has Brees accomplished? A bunch of TD's in two mediocre games? Let's see Brees break Manning's single season TD record. Oh, thats right, it took an incredible season by one Tom Brady to beat it by one TD...
How many times has Brees even put his team in a position to get to the super bowl? Oh, that's right, not many...
Keep bashing Manning, but everything you say reflects on Brees too, because there is nothing Brees has done that Manning hasn't done better...
Ouch, that hurts man
How did Manning look through two games after he came back from surgery?? Not that great either...
IMO this is a silly arguement. Brees needs to do WAY MORE to be even considered close to Peyton. Its way to early to judge that comparison. Manning has done too many great things in his career to be compared to this guy.
I think Badgolfer is hyped after Brees great start, which he should be. Lets not get ahead of ourselves thats all.
Not meant to hurt you...:toast:Ouch, that hurts man
How did Manning look through two games after he came back from surgery?? Not that great either...
IMO this is a silly arguement. Brees needs to do WAY MORE to be even considered close to Peyton. Its way to early to judge that comparison. Manning has done too many great things in his career to be compared to this guy.
I think Badgolfer is hyped after Brees great start, which he should be. Lets not get ahead of ourselves thats all.
Brady is obviously a stud and I am sure he will get that mojo back as soon as he gets back into the swing of things, lets just hope its the game after the Colts Pats Sunday night.
LoL were did i ever say Brees is the best qb ever?
i just said RIGHT FUCKING NOW HE IS can't you guys read
i know Manning is great but to say he's the ALL TIME BEST IS NOT TRUE. When Brady has beat him many times when it COUNTED
So one last time BREES IS THE BEST QB PLAYING RIGHT NOW .Not in the history of the nfl
i just said RIGHT FUCKING NOW HE IS can't you guys read
i know Manning is great but to say he's the ALL TIME BEST IS NOT TRUE. When Brady has beat him many times when it COUNTED
So one last time BREES IS THE BEST QB PLAYING RIGHT NOW .Not in the history of the nfl
Im sick of the Brady vs Manning argument. Peyton is and has been better. The Patriots have been the better team, hence the better record. What is so hard to comprehend about that? Football is the ultimate team sport. It takes more than just a great QB, and a great offense to win games. Peyton plays the position at a higher level than it has ever been played at. His field vision and ability to call his own plays is unmatched. Its like having a coach on the field.
And please save the touchdown record argument. Peyton barely played in the 16th game of the season, barely threw the ball in a lot of second halves, and routinely sat out entire 4th quarters. Brady however, was routinely running up scores and throwing bombs to Moss in 4th quarters regardless of the big leads.
With all that being said, Peyton's 49 > Brady's 50.
And please save the touchdown record argument. Peyton barely played in the 16th game of the season, barely threw the ball in a lot of second halves, and routinely sat out entire 4th quarters. Brady however, was routinely running up scores and throwing bombs to Moss in 4th quarters regardless of the big leads.
With all that being said, Peyton's 49 > Brady's 50.
Wow... You keep talking but you're not saying anything.
How about last year? Brees had the most yards and TD's last year, was he the best last year with his AWESOME 8-8 season LAST IN THEIR DIVISION?
The ONLY reason you think he is the best right now is because he has a bunch of yards and TD's. Guess what, that doesn't mean anything 2 games into the season. Look how well being #1 did for him last year. :lol:
Yes, he is doing well. Yes, I would put him top 10. But he's not even better than Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger at this point who I would put in the top 3 QB's right now. I mean you want to talk about someone who has already won a big game and has NO ONE to throw to?
Again, your complete lack of understanding of the QB position is transparent. QB's aren't just good because of their stats. Look at Big Ben Roethlisberger. The guy isn't a stat machine, but he gets the job done. Same thing with Eli Manning.
And yes, the past plays an important role in the assessment of right now. Experience is huge in the QB position.
Until you can actually provide a shred of evidence to back up your claims then I am done with this conversation. You can't just keep saying the same thing over and over and expect to sway anyone's opinion. You have to give REASONS. And you have NONE.
How stupid are you? Do you think Brady would have that many wins/SB's if he wasn't on a Belichick team?
Peyton had a garbage defense for many years. The one year he finally has a good one and what happens? They win the SB. Oh, and here are some of Peytons PLAYOFF RECORDS.
- Most 300+ yard passing games: 6 (tied with Joe Montana)<sup id="cite_ref-175" class="reference">[176]</sup>
- Most 400+ yard passing games: 2 (tied with Dan Marino)<sup id="cite_ref-176" class="reference">[177]</sup>
- Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05<sup id="cite_ref-177" class="reference">[178]</sup>
- Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England<sup id="cite_ref-178" class="reference">[179]</sup>
- One of only four QB's to post a perfect 158.3 rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)<sup id="cite_ref-179" class="reference">[180]</sup>
- One of only three QB's to complete 30 or more passes in 2 playoff games (Warren Moon, Tom Brady)<sup id="cite_ref-180" class="reference">[181]</sup>
- Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 7 (tied w/Tom Brady)
And in regards to Brees, will he beat any of Peytons records? Probably not. The Saints always will be a high scoring team. Unfortunately their Defense is garbage and once they run into a team with solid D and O, they will lose(again).
i only post at work, so sorry for the delay.. but dont bring Roethlisberger into this.. without his "D", he has just as many super bowls as Drew Brees.. lets be honest about that.. as i said, this debate isnt a CLEAR runaway for Manning.. I rarely see Brees make bad decisions with the ball.. a quality you want in a QB.. Big Ben does make poor decisions which almost cost him both super bowls.. last year, that 8-8 record is bad i admit.. but they played carolina, atl, and tb twice.. its not like they had a cupcake schedule.. all their losses came to teams .500 and above.. while Indy had one of their losses to the Jags(which always play them tough).. 3 of Indy's 4 losses came to teams who didnt make the playoffs.. while the Saints had only 2 of their 8 losses to teams who didnt make the playoffs..
Brees is in a pass happy offense, so its gonna be given that his stats will be inflated(Colt Brennan at Hawaii and Graham Harrell at Tech), but he's throwing to Colston, Shockey, Henderson, Meachem, and Bush.. while Manning was throwing to Wayne, Harrison, Clark and Addai.. u decide who has the better supporting cast and who does more with less..
