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took some ripped fuel back in college.
It allowed me to easily dunk. Easy.
Only time ever. Ephedra FTW.
 

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its a preworkout shopping day, just grabbed the preignite intense too lol...my new goal is to catch up to chops collection, he's built a nice lead tho
 

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Awesome, this turned into the preworkout thread! I have tried quite a few but never heard of a few of these. I always seem to come back to white flood though, no real crashes and focused energy. I had a sample come with my latest order from bb.com (can't recall the name of it) and tried it a few weeks ago. Too much energy and thought I was going to lift for a few hours instead of my usual hour. But I got jittery as well and didn't come down and didn't really have focus either. I have another package of it (sample) and will try to remember to post what it was. Will have to try a couple listed above, agree with Chop no matter how great something is you want to try something better. Kind of like women...
 

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Awesome, this turned into the preworkout thread! I have tried quite a few but never heard of a few of these. I always seem to come back to white flood though, no real crashes and focused energy. I had a sample come with my latest order from bb.com (can't recall the name of it) and tried it a few weeks ago. Too much energy and thought I was going to lift for a few hours instead of my usual hour. But I got jittery as well and didn't come down and didn't really have focus either. I have another package of it (sample) and will try to remember to post what it was. Will have to try a couple listed above, agree with Chop no matter how great something is you want to try something better. Kind of like women...

Hey since you like white flood so much you ought to try the new pump pre that controlled labs just came out with called white pump. It's the same company that makes white flood. It's 100% stackable with white flood.

The new white pump is supposed to be a replacement for hemavol.

I have some on order that will probably arrive today. From what people told me it's better then hemavol.
 

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I have been trying to do research on this pwo that Matt got me to order and can't find hardly any reviews. Kind of exciting trying something most people never heard of.

I am going to be one of the first people ever to try muscle techs hmb-fa. It's called "clear muscle" The claims are almost too good to be true. We will see
 

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I have been trying to do research on this pwo that Matt got me to order and can't find hardly any reviews. Kind of exciting trying something most people never heard of.

Yea, there are no reviews, but that's not always a bad thing. You can find reviews for the "Zoned", which is included in the Pre-Ignite Intense. It's the focus aspect of it, and that is the reason I like it so much.

I'm really not big on a lot of pwo's because I don't like the way they make me feel. This stuff is clean as they come IMO. My brain likes it, lol, and it needs all the help it can get. haha
 

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I doubt any well known BB or lifters even use it, Chop. Only been around for less than 2 years now I believe. I do know the SC Deadlift Record Holder uses it because he works out at my gym and trains jitz with me too (not that it matters).
 

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Yea, there are no reviews, but that's not always a bad thing. You can find reviews for the "Zoned", which is included in the Pre-Ignite Intense. It's the focus aspect of it, and that is the reason I like it so much.

I'm really not big on a lot of pwo's because I don't like the way they make me feel. This stuff is clean as they come IMO. My brain likes it, lol, and it needs all the help it can get. haha

Yea that's fine. I like finding stuff nobody hardly knows about.



Im real interested in this clear muscle.
This could be huge.

Like into the clinical trial that was done. Some of the results are amazing. I'm starting mine tomorrow
 

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Most of the stuff (Junk) you find at Vitamin Shoppe or GNC is all over priced and worthless.
When I was younger I did a few cycles of AAS and now into my late 40's I stick to Prohormones.
More effective and I get my moneys worth.

prohormones are nowhere near as effective... and the ones that are quality, are illegal in the states...
 

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I have been trying to do research on this pwo that Matt got me to order and can't find hardly any reviews. Kind of exciting trying something most people never heard of.

I am going to be one of the first people ever to try muscle techs hmb-fa. It's called "clear muscle" The claims are almost too good to be true. We will see

expect it to be just like all of muscle techs products... overpriced and average...like most of its claims, its bullshit, but for the avg. joe , it looks like a miracle drug...it isnt.... they dont do anything super spectacular, but love to charge for it... its the square source for weekend warrior gym goers....
 

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expect it to be just like all of muscle techs products... overpriced and average...like most of its claims, its bullshit, but for the avg. joe , it looks like a miracle drug...it isnt.... they dont do anything super spectacular, but love to charge for it... its the square source for weekend warrior gym goers....

I agree.
 

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prohormones are nowhere near as effective... and the ones that are quality, are illegal in the states...

I don't keep up on prohormones, it's a never ending game with the fda and supp companies as to how long something stays legit and if you're gonna dabble in gear then might as well do it right but that doesn't mean that some aren't effective. A few of the prohormones that were around were legit aas, superdrol, epistane for example were both just called prohormones but they were aas, they'd shut you down. Lots of these prohormones are not new, they were just products that never had medical applications so they never got mass produced and now you get prohormone companies making these prods. The fda catches up eventually but I wouldn't necessarily rule out all prohormones you just have to know which ones are legit and which ones are bunk.
 

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I don't keep up on prohormones, it's a never ending game with the fda and supp companies as to how long something stays legit and if you're gonna dabble in gear then might as well do it right but that doesn't mean that some aren't effective. A few of the prohormones that were around were legit aas, superdrol, epistane for example were both just called prohormones but they were aas, they'd shut you down. Lots of these prohormones are not new, they were just products that never had medical applications so they never got mass produced and now you get prohormone companies making these prods. The fda catches up eventually but I wouldn't necessarily rule out all prohormones you just have to know which ones are legit and which ones are bunk.

Spot on.
 

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yup... sdrol was what i was primarily talking about not being around except underground ....

today, if you want something quite similar to sdrol and dbol , give superdmz3 a try...its still legal and it has some of the strongest anabolic compounds out there in it...but again, its just not the same...i tried it a few months back...solid arm pumps, not much else...actually hurt my appetite a little and gave me massive back cramps and spasms...but ive read others who claimed it made them hungry and they were able to put on a lot of weight and helped with strength... they could be reps or something, who knows...

ill stick with test and maybe throw another compound in there from time to time...most guys over 35-40yrs old need trt anyways...
 

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prohormones are nowhere near as effective... and the ones that are quality, are illegal in the states...
All depends on what you're taking.
I just got off a cycle of Trenavar. One THE best Prohormones I've done.
At my age I won't do AAS any longer. Plenty of cycles under my belt when I was younger.
 

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Thinking of Tren makes me cough. -haha

anavar- great stuff, but expensive.

$34.95 for the stuff?!? What exactly did you experience and for how long did you take it?
 

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