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dsethi said:
we should exterminate the black race before they become too powerful athletically and intellectually.
hahaha i am kidding i promise

Don't forget brown people. Once we learn how to genetically manipulate ourselves so we can throw a football too, this world is ours!
 

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Here's a little fact, the first black QB played for Mich St. and than the Chicago bears in 1953.

And I don't know if you guys are talking about starters or just black QB's overall, but the number would surprise you I'm sure. Right off the top of my head I can name 6 blacks that are starters. Leftwitch, Vick, Culpepper, McNabb, McNair, and Brooks. And there are several more that are backups. Off my head I came up with Tony Banks, Charlie Batch, Jeff Blake, Anthony Wright, David Garrard, Jason Cambell, Senica Wallace, and Shawn King. So thats atleast 14 black QB's that are playing right now.

The harder question to ask yourself is can you name even 1 NFL running back that is White.
 

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black qbs may not have a great track record but, they are much better than hispanic or asian qbs.
 

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allright I'll give you half credit for that one because he's actually listed as a full back not a running back. allthough he does line up as running back sometimes but much more as a blocker. I knew someone would say allstott and actually there are a few white FB's I believe, but I can't think of any full time RB's that are white.
 

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The harder question to ask yourself is can you name even 1 NFL running back that is White.

try a white corner back...zero
 

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allright I'll give you half credit for that one because he's actually listed as a full back not a running back. allthough he does line up as running back sometimes but much more as a blocker. I knew someone would say allstott and actually there are a few white FB's I believe, but I can't think of any full time RB's that are white.

the last "tail back" i remember was craig james. before him, mark van eegan.

here is the bottom line...blacks are better athletes. they are faster and can jump higher. this means that the dbs, wrs and rbs will almost always be black. the white guys either play qb or on the line. so, if you're white and you cant throw it like favre or dont weigh 300 lbs...better study in college.
 

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exactly, maybe whites should start there own protest groups. I always see black groups protesting that there isn't enough black coaches or QB's. Whites should start an equal oppertunity employment for the RB and CB positions. And before I get called a racists i'm joking.
 

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blue edwards said:
black qbs may not have a great track record but, they are much better than hispanic or asian qbs.

especially the asians
 

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we do throw in the occasional WR, and LB, and John Lynch but your right. In general blacks are better athletes so your always going to see more blacks especially at the skill posistions.
 

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Where did you go, BaseballGuy? Someone tries to make a point and you disappear? You are so damned willing to come on here blathering and now nothing? I think it only fitting for you to at least rebut my post or offer some indication that you have even read it. I wasn't bothered until now, that you don't offer some indication that you either disagree with my post and your reasoning why or you agree with my post. tulsa

I didnt go anywhere.. Thought I had just made my point.
 

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I didnt go anywhere.. Thought I had just made my point.

Alright. No harm done. I don't think you are racist and my argument wasn't about racism. I wasn't in a good 'winning' mood earlier and it showed a bit. I've had a long, hard day at the horse track...so to speak. Good luck. tulsa
 

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Tulsa said:
Alright. No harm done. I don't think you are racist and my argument wasn't about racism. I wasn't in a good 'winning' mood earlier and it showed a bit. I've had a long, hard day at the horse track...so to speak. Good luck. tulsa

Hope you bet on the black horses. They run faster.
 

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I guess this is what white america holds on 2. Since the brothers are the best in all sports in every position this is where they can come and put the brothers down. Sorrry, its not going to last. The brothers will take over the qb spot in the next few years...

Every week i see a black qb sucks post. Where is the D Carr, Guss F, K Warner sucks threads? The worst QB's in the nfl are white. don't get it twisted
 

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current black qbs

tony banks - texans
c batch - steelers
j blake - bears
a brooks - saints
j campbell - skins
culpepper - vikings
d garrard - jags
q gray - jags
leftwich - jags
cleo lemon - phins
chris lewis - cards
mcnabb - eagles
mcnair - titans
r rutherford - panthers
c stewart - ravens
vick - falcons
s wallace - seahawks
a wright - ravens
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  • 1953: Seven years after four players broke the color barrier of pro football's modern era, Chicago Bears backup Willie Thrower became the first African-American quarterback to play in an NFL game on Oct. 18, during a 35-28 loss to the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>San Francisco</st1:place></st1:City> 49ers. The next season Thrower joined the Canadian Football League, playing four years in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
  • <LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1953: George Taliaferro, a single-wing tailback for the New York Yanks (1950-51) and Dallas Texans (1952) started two games as a T-formation quarterback for the Baltimore Colts. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1955: Charlie "Choo Choo" Brackins played in relief for the Green Bay Packers. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1968: Eldridge Dickey became the first African-American quarterback selected in the first round by an AFL or NFL team, chosen 25th overall by the Oakland Raiders. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1968: Marlin Briscoe became the first African-American quarterback to land a starting job. He started six games and played in 11 as a Denver Broncos rookie. He was waived after the season and signed with the Buffalo Bills, who switched him to wide receiver, where he played eight seasons and earned Pro Bowl honors in 1971. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1974: Joe Gilliam started six games for the Pittsburgh Steelers before being replaced by Terry Bradshaw. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1974: James Harris became the first African-American quarterback to start a playoff game. His Los Angeles Rams defeated the Washington Redskins 19-10 in the divisional round, then lost 14-10 to the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC title game. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1975: Harris is named MVP of the Pro Bowl. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1975: John Jones started for the New York Jets on Monday Night Football as a replacement for Joe Namath, who was benched for missing curfew. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1978: Doug Williams became the first African-American quarterback drafted in the first round since the 1970 merger, taken 17th overall by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1978: Hearing suggestions that he switch positions after a stellar career at the <st1:place><st1:placeType>University</st1:placeType> of <st1:placeName>Washington</st1:placeName></st1:place>, Warren Moon signs with the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1984: Moon signs as a free agent with the Houston Oilers, becoming one of the first NFL players to earn a salary in excess of <HH>$1 million. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1988: Williams, who began the season as a backup for the Washington Redskins, became the first African-American quarterback to start a Super Bowl. He passes for a then-record 340 yards in a 42-10 rout of the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXII and earns Super Bowl MVP honors. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1993: <st1:place><st1:placeName>Florida</st1:placeName> <st1:placeType>State</st1:placeType></st1:place> quarterback Charlie Ward went unselected in the NFL draft after winning the Heisman Trophy. He is in his 11th NBA season as a point guard. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1997: Six African-American quarterbacks start for NFL teams — more than at any other time. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">1999: The Philadelphia Eagles select Donovan McNabb with the second pick overall in the draft — the highest slot ever for an African-American quarterback. Two other African-American quarterbacks are drafted early in the first round — Akili Smith (third) by the Cincinnati Bengals and Daunte Culpepper (11th) by the <st1:State><st1:place>Minnesota</st1:place></st1:State> Vikings. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">2000: Steve McNair starts in Super Bowl XXXIV for the Tennessee Titans, who fall 23-16 to the St. Louis Rams. <o:p></o:p><LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 103.5pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">2001: Michael Vick is drafted No. 1 overall by the Atlanta Falcons. <o:p></o:p>
  • 2005: Vick and McNabb meet in the NFC title game — the first time two African-American quarterbacks started in a conference championship game. <o:p></o:p>
 

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retired black qbs

charlie brackins
marlon briscoe
randall cunningham
vince evans
joe guilliam
vince evans
warren moon
rodney peete
fritz pollard
george taliaferro
willie thrower
john walton
andre ware
doug williams
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Great stuff 919! Thanks. My point still stands, though: We used 30 and the 'real' number is 32!! BaseballGuy was closer than I was on that number. If you run my logic with 32 you come out with 5% of the entire quarterback roster...and that is a high, high estimate. My point still holds water, I believe. tulsa
 

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