Well I do know you 100% know your Horses..
So in this case, IF it was Bookmaker... How would they Pay this ? how would they Know how to pay it ?
I myself haven't bet a Horse race Offshore in 7+ years...
Do they go with odds on a Pick 3 to figure it out ?
I might have to reach out to Bookmaker just to see what they would do.
Forever that i could remember, Track payout/Results were the thing.
Bookmaker would go to DRF "charts" under charts you can see the PICK 3 "pools"
What this is,is the total amount wagered for that particular wager. Once they get that they subtract the 20% (give or take)
because thats what the race track takes out for taxes and purses and they come up with what a $1 wager would of paid.
What this is,is the total amount wagered for that particular wager. Once they get that they subtract the 20% (give or take)
because thats what the race track takes out for taxes and purses and they come up with what a $1 wager would of paid.
Green what try said is correct i meant i knew the max payout was 1500/1 which once again i stated i do not have a problem with, i do have a problem with a winning ticket not being paid, like i stated before i would of never played a horse race well especially and exotic if i knew i might not get paid that makes absolutely no sense, the max payout part i dont mind its 1500/1 how many pick 3's at emerald downs come back paying more than that??? None i believe the pool itself was only 3300 its roght on the charts so i just dont understand why they dont pay up??
from the books perspective i dont see any reason why not to make and adjustment like i previously stated if i went on and said why didnt i get 2500 that would be completely
from the books perspective i dont see any reason why not to make and adjustment like i previously stated if i went on and said why didnt i get 2500 that would be completely
My fault as it clearly states the book has a max payout for each track ! I mean they make out in the situation they have a person that could of won more and they only pay him 1500 when his wonning ticket paid over 2600 roughly but no they pay 2 out of 3 like i said before if i knew this was the case i would never ever of played any pick 3-4-5 etc only thing im grateful about was how sick it would be to of played a pick 4-5 on there and it pays 4 out of 5 for some insane amount that would be a joke, after dealing with the manager over there i can see why there have been so many complaints against this book, poorly run and i would never trust 5dimes with a dime
betallsports just playing dumb here , its obvious what rule 3 in RED means, but nice of you to point it out to some that might not know...
.. not sure why he is playing dumb like that he really is one of the good top notch mods going. but whatever.
If you seriously do not know how a book would get this info in 3 minutes or less you really should not be commenting at all on anything related to this dispute.
See i thought i was crazy, like in the chat with 5 dimes they kept saying well we dont know what happened thats what the track said was the payout and im trying too explain to them over and over and over and everyone is like sorry thats what track says im like am i missing something here....
im not the sharpest horse guy but it seems pretty basic to me
so a player plays a ticket now its the final leg he has 3 horses x y z .. X is paying 1233 and y and z are paying 46.10 because its 2 out of 3 so in suppose to root for the fav x because if x wins i win 1233 even though i have y and z also who are longer shots??? This makes absolutely no sense at all
and like i have stated many times thus i played a 50 dollar exa with the 2 who i thought had a chance on top because i figured it was money in the bank i figured 1233 was the least i would win
im not the sharpest horse guy but it seems pretty basic to me
so a player plays a ticket now its the final leg he has 3 horses x y z .. X is paying 1233 and y and z are paying 46.10 because its 2 out of 3 so in suppose to root for the fav x because if x wins i win 1233 even though i have y and z also who are longer shots??? This makes absolutely no sense at all
and like i have stated many times thus i played a 50 dollar exa with the 2 who i thought had a chance on top because i figured it was money in the bank i figured 1233 was the least i would win
http://www.equibase.com/premium/chartEmb.cfm?track=EMD&raceDate=05/01/2015&cy=USA&rn=5
Theres the race chart
May-01 EMD R3 1.00 USD PK3
2,3,5,6,9/1,2,3,7,8/1,4,6
my ticket
Theres the race chart
May-01 EMD R3 1.00 USD PK3
2,3,5,6,9/1,2,3,7,8/1,4,6
my ticket
Well I'm not going to argue with you, but it is part of my job.
I know plenty about the industry but have always been on the Credit side. and had nothing to do with grading. But like I said it's been years since I played horses offshore.
and one of the reasons was something very similar ... which I posted either in this thread or another that the subject was talked about.
As a Whole Offshore was never a good place to wager on anything but WPS, maybe some DD's and EX's ... because you knew it wasn't going into the pools.
anyway... We talk about Bookmaker doing the Right thing.. but the wager wasn't made there... maybe BetDSI does it too... But there are not a Ton like you make it out to be. or make it sound to be..
I guess if 5Dimes wanted to be like Bookmaker, they would have graded different. But 5Dimes isn't Bookmaker
Maybe we need a list of Offshore Racebooks that would grade it like Bookmaker.
After looking at your ticket and the chart for the first time I haven't changed my stance that you should not be paid for the lone ticket.
BUT I do feel and very strongly that you should be the $46.10 13 times. (3+5+5)
Not sure if I'll check back to this thread in the near future but you hit the pick 3 13 times and you should be paid that.
Now if you were a prick to Tony or any of his employes your fucked, forget about it.
But I really think you should be paid 599.30 for your ticket. I hope you or a mod can figure out how I came up with the 13 and get paid in full.
Good luck.
Why should i not get paid for the winning ticket? The reason is? Its not in the rules so once again i will ask why?
Whats right is right simple as that i won and they wont pay they do not state anything in the rules about 2 out of 3 and 3 out of 4 thus the book is in default, and it seems to be ok with some people, why i will never understand lesson learned do not trust 5dimes
Whats right is right simple as that i won and they wont pay they do not state anything in the rules about 2 out of 3 and 3 out of 4 thus the book is in default, and it seems to be ok with some people, why i will never understand lesson learned do not trust 5dimes
The whole thing is wrong on multiple levels. First the ticket is actually 75 combos at $1 each. Now break it down to ALL of the winning combos. The poster has multiple winners at 2 of 3.
The track paid 9/ALL/4. The poster has 9/1-2-3-7-8/4. That's 5 wagers that should get $46.10 each. So 5 x $46.10 = $230.5. Next
The track paid ALL/7/4. The poster has 2-3-5-6-9/7/4. Once again 5 wagers at $46.10 so another $230.5. Finally
The track paid 9/7/ALL. Poster has 9/7/1-4-6. That's another 3 @ $46.10 or $138.3.
Add them all together and it's a return of $599.3. Of course deduct the wager of $75 and the net return is $524.3 before
any rebate adjustments. This is what the poster should have been paid according to the poorly worded website. If the poster has
continued problems with the site ask them to break down the ticket wager by wager and grade it by hand that way. One issue here is
that it is not the first 2 of 3 but any 2 of 3.
Betallsports, you should have seen this. (lol)
Ahh the good old days of walkup spots in Queens...................
| 07235761 | 5/1/15 10:40pm | -$75.00 | Wager(s) Placed | 307235****-1 | $75.00 | $0.00 | Win | May-01 EMD R3 1.00 USD PK3 2,3,5,6,9/1,2,3,7,8/1,4,6 |
| Wager Type | Winning Numbers | Payoff |
|---|---|---|
| $1 Pick 3 | 9-ALL-4 (3 correct) | 46.10 |
| $1 Pick 3 | ALL-7-4 (3 correct) | 46.10 |
| $1 Pick 3 | 9-7-ALL (3 correct) | 46.10 |
The track paid 9/ALL/4. The poster has 9/1-2-3-7-8/4. That's 5 wagers that should get $46.10 each. So 5 x $46.10 = $230.5. Next
The track paid ALL/7/4. The poster has 2-3-5-6-9/7/4. Once again 5 wagers at $46.10 so another $230.5. Finally
The track paid 9/7/ALL. Poster has 9/7/1-4-6. That's another 3 @ $46.10 or $138.3.
Add them all together and it's a return of $599.3. Of course deduct the wager of $75 and the net return is $524.3 before
any rebate adjustments. This is what the poster should have been paid according to the poorly worded website. If the poster has
continued problems with the site ask them to break down the ticket wager by wager and grade it by hand that way. One issue here is
that it is not the first 2 of 3 but any 2 of 3.
Betallsports, you should have seen this. (lol)
Ahh the good old days of walkup spots in Queens...................
Once again i will say it for the 5000 time where is the rule that states you dont get paid on a winning ticket if its 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 4 when you have the winning ticket 3 out of 3
max payout rule very clear understood
find me this rule thanks
Its been a month still cant find this rule, they owe me money they shit off my account am i suprised after talking to the mgmt team there not at all my main goal now is hey they robbed me dont let them rob you and stay away from the place
carry on
max payout rule very clear understood
find me this rule thanks
Its been a month still cant find this rule, they owe me money they shit off my account am i suprised after talking to the mgmt team there not at all my main goal now is hey they robbed me dont let them rob you and stay away from the place
carry on
