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They don't have to be in the Constitution as that is not what the Constitution was written for.

Really.

What was the Constitution written for? If these govt programs (expansion of federal power) don't have to be explicitly spelled out in the Consitution, then what is the purpose of the enumerated powers?

The program does however fall under the powers granted by the Constitution, according to the Supreme Court.

Which powers would those be?
 

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Really.

What was the Constitution written for? If these govt programs (expansion of federal power) don't have to be explicitly spelled out in the Consitution, then what is the purpose of the enumerated powers?

Which powers would those be?

You can Google it. It's been around over 75 years. Not really an argument I care about. I'm not one of those weird ass loon conservatives that want to live by 18th century standards. The Supreme Court has spoken and you lose.
 

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You can Google it. It's been around over 75 years. Not really an argument I care about. I'm not one of those weird ass loon conservatives that want to live by 18th century standards. The Supreme Court has spoken and you lose.

What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare.

Very simple questions an 'educated' person like yourself should be able to answer.

Please dazzle us with your academic brilliance.
 

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You can Google it. It's been around over 75 years. Not really an argument I care about. I'm not one of those weird ass loon conservatives that want to live by 18th century standards. The Supreme Court has spoken and you lose.


So you would be OK if the police kicked your front door down and started searching your residence without giving you a warrant first. Because after all, protection from unreasonable searches and seizures is just an outdated concept...
 

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So you would be OK if the police kicked your front door down and started searching your residence without giving you a warrant first. Because after all, protection from unreasonable searches and seizures is just an outdated concept...

Nah, he probably likes that part . :Carcajada:

It's the others parts (the parts that limit the federal govt from imposing his radical agenda on free people) that he and his 'progressive' commies don't like and are always trying to circumvent.

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What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare.

Very simple questions an 'educated' person like yourself should be able to answer.

Please dazzle us with your academic brilliance.


Let's add these to the list, among others:

Depts of education, housing, health and energy
Social Security
EPA
FDA

That's off the top of my head. I'm sure I missed plenty of others. None of those are authorized anywhere in the enumerated powers. The dept of defense and military, however, is.

Just admit you've never read the damn thing, ak. It's painfully obvious. Otherwise, feel free to cite for us which one of the enumerated powers grants that authority you described. This should be a very easy question for you to answer if it's there (and you'll have to do better than "The Supreme Court said so!")
 

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Nah, he probably likes that part . :Carcajada:

It's the others parts (the parts that limit the federal govt from imposing his radical agenda on free people) that he and his 'progressive' commies don't like and are always trying to circumvent.


Anytime someone says the Constitution is "outdated"...it's the equivalent of saying they're a blithering idiot. The Bill of Rights has nothing at all to do with the times we live in.

The concepts outlined in the Constitution aren't the latest trends or fads that expire after a certain timeframe. It isn't an early GQ magazine from the 1800s. What is written in there are cornerstones for how society is to function. You can't just pick and choose which parts of it you like...either we have one or we don't. And if you don't like what's in it, that's what the amendment process is for.

This is sixth-grade level civics class stuff...and it's way over ak's head. He must have already been getting smashed at that age.
 

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'Progressives' have no patience or appetite for constitutional amendments because they require super majorities (2/3rds in both houses of the legislature AND 3/4ths of the states) for ratification - much more stringent than that required of ordinary legislation.

The framers designed the system to inhibit rapid social-engineering on a grand scale, the kind 'progressives' routinely advocate and are only able to achieve during very brief periods: Reconstruction, New Deal, Great Society, Obamacare etc.

“We’ll go through the gate. If the gate’s closed, we’ll go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we’ll pole-vault in. If that doesn’t work, we’ll parachute in. But we’re going to get health care reform passed for the American people, for their own personal health and economic security, and for the important role that it will play in reducing the deficit.” -- Nancy Pelosi

That is exactly the type of ignorant, arrogant, tyrannical, one-party Big Government power grab the framers were trying to avoid.
 

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Anytime someone says the Constitution is "outdated"...it's the equivalent of saying they're a blithering idiot. The Bill of Rights has nothing at all to do with the times we live in.

The concepts outlined in the Constitution aren't the latest trends or fads that expire after a certain timeframe. It isn't an early GQ magazine from the 1800s. What is written in there are cornerstones for how society is to function. You can't just pick and choose which parts of it you like...either we have one or we don't. And if you don't like what's in it, that's what the amendment process is for.

This is sixth-grade level civics class stuff...and it's way over ak's head. He must have already been getting smashed at that age.

Yea, how dumb of me, despite the fact all of the shit you guys are talking about are established laws. You guys are funny people.
 

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So you would be OK if the police kicked your front door down and started searching your residence without giving you a warrant first. Because after all, protection from unreasonable searches and seizures is just an outdated concept...

Nice red herring!
 

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"What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare. "

Notice the illiterate left wing loon can't answer very simple questions, though he's never short on ignorant sheep-like inanities like "The SC says" and "you guys are talking about established laws"

HAHAHA...the troll is a total maroon!

Loser!@#0
 

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"I am very, VERY, VERY educated people!!!"

The SC says!
The SC says!
The SC says!
Braaaaaaaak!

You are a hopeless uneducated parrot.

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"I am very, VERY, VERY educated people!!!"

The SC says!
The SC says!
The SC says!
Braaaaaaaak!

You are a hopeless uneducated parrot.

:laughingb

Yea, it's very uneducated to quote what the Supreme Court says, lol. Much better off with conservative loon blogs! Seems to be working out for you guys.
 

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The uneducated troll who has never won a debate in his life still can't answer simple questions.

"What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare."

"The SC says!"
"The SC says!"
"The SC says!"
"Braaaaaaawk"

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The uneducated troll who has never won a debate in his life still can't answer simple questions.

"What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare."

"The SC says!"
"The SC says!"
"The SC says!"
"Braaaaaaawk"

face)(*^%

What the SC says is pretty important, lol. Much more important than conservative blogging loons.
 

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What the SC says is pretty important, lol. Much more important than conservative blogging loons.

What the SC says depends on who is sitting on the SC. Judges are humans, not all-knowing gods. Duh!

Still can't answer simple questions?

"What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare."

"The SC says!"

You are dumber than paint and SHOULD NOT VOTE!

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What the SC says depends on who is sitting on the SC. Judges are humans, not all-knowing gods. Duh!

Still can't answer simple questions?

"What are the enumerated powers and which powers in the Constitution grant the federal government the authority to provide employment insurance? Ditto for Obamacare."

"The SC says!"

You are dumber than paint and SHOULD NOT VOTE!

So you're an all knowing God?
 

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"states rights"

that section is all you need to know really, these issues don't even get off the starting block

what we have today is a federal government the founding fathers so desperately wanted to avoid and they made that perfectly clear in numerous ways

The tenth amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


 

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The Tenth Amendment is similar to an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."[SUP][4][/SUP] After the Constitution was ratified, South Carolina Representative Thomas Tudor Tucker and Massachusetts Representative Elbridge Gerry separately proposed similar amendments limiting the federal government to powers "expressly" delegated, which would have denied implied powers.[SUP][5][/SUP] James Madison opposed the amendments, stating that "it was impossible to confine a Government to the exercise of express powers; there must necessarily be admitted powers by implication, unless the Constitution descended to recount every minutia."[SUP][5][/SUP] The word "expressly" ultimately did not appear in the Tenth Amendment as ratified, and therefore the Tenth Amendment did not reject the powers implied by the Necessary and Proper Clause.[SUP][6][/SUP]
When he introduced the Tenth Amendment in Congress, James Madison explained that many states were eager to ratify this amendment, despite critics who deemed the amendment superfluous or unnecessary:
I find, from looking into the amendments proposed by the State conventions, that several are particularly anxious that it should be declared in the Constitution, that the powers not therein delegated should be reserved to the several States. Perhaps words which may define this more precisely than the whole of the instrument now does, may be considered as superfluous. I admit they may be deemed unnecessary: but there can be no harm in making such a declaration, if gentlemen will allow that the fact is as stated. I am sure I understand it so, and do therefore propose it.[SUP][7]

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Madison, a reasonable man taking a reasonable position, did not want to use the word "expressly" because he thought that might be used to limit the powers of the federal government when such may not be appropriate. He thought the wording they used would be appropriate, and easy enough to understand. He did not know there would one day be libtards who would take the constitution and use it for toilet paper because he left them a 1/100th inch crack in the door

The founders wanted the federal government to be responsible for national defense (addressed in many different amendments), a postal service and the infrastructure. That's it, that's their design

Modern day libtardism is so fucking perverse they actually want politicians to raise your children and they want politicians to choose your healthcare and they want politicians to give them money for whatever personal preference they so choose

they're left, they're wrong and were a "RIGHT". It's really that simple [/SUP]
 

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