Obama challenged to a debate by...

[JDeuce]

Jesus Christ, you people are dense. None of you can comprehend a simple sentance with a crystal-clear premise. Let me start from the very beginning, and I'll go slooooowly for those of you who take a loooooong time to comprehend...

-After getting elected, Barack Obama basically called out Rush Limbaugh and told Republican office holders that they have to stop listening to Rush if they want to get along with him.

-Limbaugh replies (correctly) that Obama’s policies would have disastrous consequences for America and he hopes they fail to pass.

Everyone with me so far...?

-Obama’s minions start whining and bitching about how unethical it is to hope a president fails, even though Rush said he hopes the POLICIES will fail. Although I suppose I should be shocked too...after all, the democrats displayed the utmost respect when they spoke of George Bush during his eight years in office.

-Limbaugh gives a CPAC speech on his thoughts regarding what conservatism really means to him, and it sends the crowd into a frenzy.

-Obama's admin then attempts to labels Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party.

(re-read that last part a few dozen times if you have to...it seems just terribly difficult for some of you to comprehend).

-Limbaugh turns around and says: "OK, if I’m really the leader of the Republican party...then let’s have a live debate. You were the one who said you were going to be bipartisan, so here I am..."

This is actually a brilliant move by Rush...if Obama fails to show up, he looks like a candyassed coward. If he does show up, he'll get humiliated without the luxury of his teleprompters (face it...the guy couldn't make a freaking PBJ sandwich without someone in the background telling him what to do, and that's why he'll never agree to this).

And by the way, D2...I don't remember any sitting presidents doing this before (although it may have happened on Meet the Press). But then again, I don't remember any sitting presidents going after a talk show host with such intensity before...

 

[PowerPlayPicks]

Rush Limbough is ANTI-AMERICAN!! Anyone who listens to this CREEP is anti-american as well.^^

 

[nhoj]

Rush is wasting his time. But I guess it is good for his ratings anyway. Obama has already been labled a coward by most of Rush followers.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

How to agitate the thinned skinned? You take a radio talk show host, mention him to the people you work with and tell them they can’t play in your sand box if they listen to him. Then you realize you just made a fool of yourself but this guy really annoys you. So you send your chief of staff on TV and give this talk show host even more coverage. Then you make the mistake of calling him a leader and bingo you open up Pandora’s box. Now this talk show host says to himself, god I love these guys, I think I’ll take advantage and challenge him to a debate knowing full well it will never happen. Now this would make a good fairy tale if it weren’t true but it is true and the thin skinned guy just happens to be the POTUS. If you need a course in how to act un presidential just watch the on the job training unfold.

 

[ElTaino]

jd and dave are right. obama brought this upon himself because he and his handlers are all about image. if rush is just a "anti american"and "drug addled gas bag" "entertainer" then why so much focus on him from the obama camp. 6 weeks in and the finger is already on the panic button. good bye economy and capitalism, hello martial law

 

[PowerPlayPicks]

jd and dave are right. obama brought this upon himself because he and his handlers are all about image. if rush is just a "anti american"and "drug addled gas bag" "entertainer" then why so much focus on him from the obama camp. 6 weeks in and the finger is already on the panic button. good bye economy and capitalism, hello martial law

Oh and Bush had nothing to do with this Sinking Economy?? Oh I get it. Another hardcore Right Chicken winger!

 

[919]

Yep...Rush Limbaugh.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030409/content/01125106.guest.html

Rush does make a good point, though...since so many on the Left think he's now the leader of the party, what better way for Obama to prove he really wants to be bipartisan than speaking with him?

I'm not holding my breath though since Obama has nothing to gain and a lot to lose by accepting this. But that should at least expose him for being a chickenshit who doesn't want to come out of his comfort zone:

Rush also said he'd pay for everything and this wouldn't cost tax payers one cent: he'd send a private jet to pick up Obama and his staff, then put them up at whatever NYC hotel they wanted.


But I have an idea. If these guys are so impressed with themselves, and if they are so sure of their correctness, why doesn't President Obama come on my show? We will do a one-on-one debate of ideas and policies. Now, his people in this Politico story, it's on the record. They're claiming they wanted me all along. They wanted me to be the focus of attention. So let's have the debate! I am offering President Obama to come on this program -- without staffers, without a TelePrompTer, without note cards -- to debate me on the issues. Let's talk about free markets versus government control. Let's talk about nationalizing health care and raising taxes on small business.

Let's talk about the New Deal versus Reaganomics. Let's talk about closing Guantanamo Bay, and let's talk about sending $900 million to Hamas. Let's talk about illegal immigration and the lawlessness on the borders. Let's talk about massive deficits and the destroying of opportunities of future generations. Let's talk about ACORN, community agitators, and the unions that represent the government employees which pour millions of dollars into your campaign, President Obama. Let's talk about your elimination of school choice for minority students in the District of Columbia. Let's talk about your efforts to further reduce domestic drilling and refining of oil. Let's talk about your stock market. By the way, Mr. President, I want to help. Yesterday you said you looked at the stock market as no different than a tracking poll that goes up and down.

There's no "up and down" here. We have a plunge. The president yesterday suggested "we're getting to the point where profits and earnings ratios are approaching that point where you want to invest." Uh, Mr. President? There is no "profits and earnings" ratio. It's "price and earnings" ratio. He's the president of the United States. He doesn't know anything about the stock market. He's admitted it before. Let's talk about it anyway. You want to maintain it's a tracking poll? I'd love to talk to you about that. Let's talk about all of these things, Mr. President. Let's go ahead and have a debate on this show. No limits. Now that your handlers are praising themselves for promoting me as the head of a political party -- they think that's a great thing -- then it should be a no-brainer for you to further advance this strategy by debating me on the issues and on the merits, and wipe me out once and for all!

I expect nothing less from you.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I was watching TV last night and my mind started to wonder how would have previous Democratic presidents handled this Limbaugh deal. First of I believe none would given him a second thought, however in the hypothetical, what if they actually cared.

Although I not born yet from what I‘ve read about Truman who used to say “the buck stops here” would have politely told Limbaugh to fuck off.

I’m old enough to remember the rest of the presidents.

JFK would have made a call to Ginacana.

LBJ would have bypassed the mob and shot him himself.

Carter would have knitted him a sweater and built him a house.

And finally Clinton would have laughed, shrugged his shoulders and chased the next skirt he saw.

But under no circumstances would they have engaged Limbaugh, it’s just not presidential.

 

[ElTaino]

Oh and Bush had nothing to do with this Sinking Economy?? Oh I get it. Another hardcore Right Chicken winger!

how did you even come up with that? where do you see me blaming people? nice change of pace ppp, but i never said that bush wasnt responsible. but dont think that clinton, obama, and a couple democratic senators didnt have anything to do with this either. typical liberal nonsense from you once again. trying to twist words, blame everything on bush and wait for an obama handout

 

[docmercer]

Both sides are playing this with as much spin as they can.

The truth is however, the dems look a bit petty, but the republicans look desperate in all this. There is a real void of leadership right now. Infighting between the "we went too moderate" and the "we need to appeal to the moderates" crowd is obvious.

As a ship, there appears to be no real captain of the party at the moment. Some look to Newt who was basically chased out in scandal years ago, some look to Rush and his bazillion followers.

Some hold out hope that Palin can somehow become presidential and appeal to enough of the middle.

Jindal gets his chance to address the nation, and delivers a weak speech (the main story of his speech later exposed as being untrue on top of things). It didn't destroy him by any means, but he sure missed a big chance.

Meanwhile, Michael Steele speaks his mind (and the truth to a lot of people) that Rush was not helping the situation, and backtracks like a scolded child a day later.

Right now, the only option without true visible leadership is to hope the economic disaster gets pinned to Obama and it helps them during the midterms. Repubs can spin the situation as much as they want to make it seem like this is a good thing (the Rush thing), but the facts are that people still hold them accountable for a lot of the mess we're in.

Lest we forget, the same spin merchants who are telling us that this feud somehow hurts the party in power, were the same people who carried the water about the imminent threat from Iraq, that we'd pay nothing or little for that (Iraq) war, or were in denial that we were heading into a recession.

The fact is, while this may be a distraction during the daily news cycle, the dems are ramming through a ton of legislation that should be debated and isn't because of something that belongs in People magazine.

 

[Mistermj]

Jesus Christ, you people are dense. None of you can comprehend a simple sentance with a crystal-clear premise. Let me start from the very beginning, and I'll go slooooowly for those of you who take a loooooong time to comprehend...

-After getting elected, Barack Obama basically called out Rush Limbaugh and told Republican office holders that they have to stop listening to Rush if they want to get along with him.

-Limbaugh replies (correctly) that Obama’s policies would have disastrous consequences for America and he hopes they fail to pass.

Everyone with me so far...?

-Obama’s minions start whining and bitching about how unethical it is to hope a president fails, even though Rush said he hopes the POLICIES will fail. Although I suppose I should be shocked too...after all, the democrats displayed the utmost respect when they spoke of George Bush during his eight years in office.

-Limbaugh gives a CPAC speech on his thoughts regarding what conservatism really means to him, and it sends the crowd into a frenzy.

-Obama's admin then attempts to labels Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party.

(re-read that last part a few dozen times if you have to...it seems just terribly difficult for some of you to comprehend).

-Limbaugh turns around and says: "OK, if I’m really the leader of the Republican party...then let’s have a live debate. You were the one who said you were going to be bipartisan, so here I am..."

This is actually a brilliant move by Rush...if Obama fails to show up, he looks like a candyassed coward. If he does show up, he'll get humiliated without the luxury of his teleprompters (face it...the guy couldn't make a freaking PBJ sandwich without someone in the background telling him what to do, and that's why he'll never agree to this).

And by the way, D2...I don't remember any sitting presidents doing this before (although it may have happened on Meet the Press). But then again, I don't remember any sitting presidents going after a talk show host with such intensity before...

Post of the month....:aktion033

You eviscerated the lefties here with Obama's own words and actions...just as Rush has. They all fell right into the trap...Rush was 3 chess moves ahead of the Ivy Leaguer....and his flying monkey advisers.

It's fun to watch all flopping around like fish out of water, with the "yeah buts" here in the forum.

@)

Good stuff...Brilliant.

 

[barman]

...... hello martial law

Shock Value

 

[PowerPlayPicks]

how did you even come up with that? where do you see me blaming people? nice change of pace ppp, but i never said that bush wasnt responsible. but dont think that clinton, obama, and a couple democratic senators didnt have anything to do with this either. typical liberal nonsense from you once again. trying to twist words, blame everything on bush and wait for an obama handout

I'm doing just fine with my sports picks Thank You very very much. I don't need Obama's handout unlike 95% of you gamblers and the rest of America whom Bush Broke!!

 

[asufan550]

I'm doing just fine with my sports picks Thank You very very much. I don't need Obama's handout unlike 95% of you gamblers and the rest of America whom Bush Broke!!

Statements like this do nothing but show your utter ignorance about the topic. The situation we're in right now has something to do with Bush, but even more to do with the Democratic congress and Presidencies going all the way back to Carter. There's plenty of blame to go around. Only dumb-asses (you) blame Bush for all of this Country's ills. When we're even worse off in four years will you blame Obama for it?

 

[PatPatriot]

I'd rather have Rush Limbaugh ahead of my party, then have George Soros,the head of the democrat party.

 

[barman]

(one of) My hero George Soros is way too busy making big $$ which he can then donate to Democratic candidates. No time to do anything as pedestrian as heading a political party

 

[JudgeWapner]

Rush Limbaugh is no different than Michael Moore.

 

[gtc08]

Rush Limbaugh is no different than Michael Moore.

true. very true.

 

[Pioneer99]

Neither of you two answered my question.

If Rush really has become the leader of the Republican party, why doesn't Obama want to talk to him?

Because the President of the United States does not have to debate the leader of the opposing party until he runs for re-election. If Rush wants to debate Obama then he needs to run for President in 2012 and win the Republican nomination.

 

[COVERIT!]

Presidents don't usually have their henchmen chasing down people in the media either, I guess they don't have anything better to do?