But if there are laws against ownership of guns that have "stiff" penalties, most law abiding citizens will not jeopardize their freedom to own a gun....at least this is what I believe the government thinks/counting on...so, therefore the vast majority of gun owners would be the people who do not care about jeopardizing their freedoms by owning a gun == the same people who do not care now == criminals
But if there are laws against ownership of guns that have "stiff" penalties, most law abiding citizens will not jeopardize their freedom to own a gun....at least this is what I believe the government thinks/counting on...so, therefore the vast majority of gun owners would be the people who do not care about jeopardizing their freedoms by owning a gun == the same people who do not care now == criminals
I know hundreds of otherwise law-abiding gun owners and not one of them would surrender their guns if some new law was passed that made their ownership illegal.
Perhaps you know people like that, but not me.
LMAO
What's that assualt rife going to do against the tank at your doorstep?
If you gun crazies ever "go to war" with the government, you'd be dead before you could even grab your gun.
I, for one, do not care if a responsible private citizens wants to own a bazooka. But guns in the hands of those who think they should be ready to fight the government scare the hell out of me.
It would only take 3%-5% of the citizenry to overthrow the government == FACT! Furthermore, as Jesse Ventura once said, "one Seal Team could wreak enough havoc on the government to shut it down for days"...so, imagine what several million people that wanted to start a revolution and take our country back could do...the problem is, we have a citizenry that is full of gelded men such as yourself that would not fight and possibly die for their country....the government knows this and therein lies a large portion of our problem with taking our country back!
Also, as for your comment about "being dead before we could grab our guns".....== false! Do not forget....there are alot more prior military soldiers living in society, then there are currently serving...Look, at any given time prisoners could take over any prison...the issue is organization. We the people can take our country back anytime...again, the issue is organization.
Last, but most important...your way of thinking (which scares the hell out of me) is exactly what the government is counting on.....if you know anything about history (and evidently you do not) we as a people, should be ready and willing to fight a tyrannical and oppressive government....that is the ONLY reason that the constitution gives us the right to bear arms
But then again, I am sure that you are not familiar with that piece of paper. Dont feel bad though, most of the people in our society dont either...and to make matters worse...most police officers and active duty military who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution have NO idea what it says....and in some cases, they have not ever read it == SAD!
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It would only take 3%-5% of the citizenry to overthrow the government == FACT! Furthermore, as Jesse Ventura once said, "one Seal Team could wreak enough havoc on the government to shut it down for days"...so, imagine what several million people that wanted to start a revolution and take our country back could do...the problem is, we have a citizenry that is full of gelded men such as yourself that would not fight and possibly die for their country....the government knows this and therein lies a large portion of our problem with taking our country back!
Also, as for your comment about "being dead before we could grab our guns".....== false! Do not forget....there are alot more prior military soldiers living in society, then there are currently serving...Look, at any given time prisoners could take over any prison...the issue is organization. We the people can take our country back anytime...again, the issue is organization.
Last, but most important...your way of thinking (which scares the hell out of me) is exactly what the government is counting on.....if you know anything about history (and evidently you do not) we as a people, should be ready and willing to fight a tyrannical and oppressive government....that is the ONLY reason that the constitution gives us the right to bear arms
But then again, I am sure that you are not familiar with that piece of paper. Dont feel bad though, most of the people in our society dont either...and to make matters worse...most police officers and active duty military who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution have NO idea what it says....and in some cases, they have not ever read it == SAD!
Don't begin to make assumptions about me or my knowledge of history.
What history tells me based on what happened in Oklahoma City is that right wing nuts pose a greater danger to this country than the government.
I was talking about society in general as well.
I know hundreds of gun owners crossing a wide spectrum of socio-economic classes and not one of them would surrender their privately owned guns if some law was passed.
That's of course why any such chat or suppositions are Wholly Imaginary because no such laws (banning all private gun ownership) will ever pass at the federal level.
Anyone who imagines differently is living in a LooneyTune Imagination.
As someone who can easily dissect many of the horrid errors taking place in Iraq, one thing I would never suggest is that the armed citizenry is "beating the occupying military".
But the notion being presented in earlier silly posts is that somehow an occupying military presence could succeed in disarming the populace. That of course is utter nonsense, not only in Iraq today, but especially in a country like the USA where the Imaginary Military Presence is made up of our own people.
DILROD/OREN gravely warns in some of the above posts that "we might have our guns taken away!!". And then in subsequent posts of bravado he images he and a couple million of his fellow Americans overthrowing the Imaginary Military Presence using their collective willpower.
Great stuff I suppose for late night internet blather, but on both ends wholly disconnected from the reality of life in 21st century USA
First will come widespread civil unrest caused by massive unemployment and rampant inflation resulting from the government printing presses belching trillions of dollars like there was no tomorrow (and one of these days, there won't be a tomorrow).
Not to mention what would happen if the narco Mexican state totally collapses such that the government IS the cartels. Millions of "refugees" would flood across the border. Given the current plan to grant amnesty to those already here, and let them then compete for jobs with citizens, the additional millions would clearly get similar treatment. There will then be a separate "civil war" between the newly franchised Hispanics and lower economic class Americans who see their unemployment rate go through the roof. I foresee this conflict even if Mexico doesn't collapse.
Next, those who are armed and realize who was responsible (or rather, irresponsible) for the destruction of this country will take their revenge. That is the revolution I am speaking of. It will be spontaneous, not organized, but the result will be the same. There will be many instances of unconnected and isolated retribution. You are already seeing organized protests like the many Tea Parties and the AIG executive bus tours. This is the non-violent beginning which will eventually lead to violent conflict.
Those in the military and police forces will have to choose sides. Will they enforce a continued goverment oppression or will they do the right thing and join the revolution? Like the Civil War, families will be split.
There are forces at work in Washington that will further worsen the situation on many levels and hasten the inevitable.
When that time comes, you will wish you were armed.
You voted for change and you got it.
Have a nice day.
im all for giving the people the right to choose which guns they want to own and use. just give the police the same opportunity.
i personally own a few guns, but they are locked up in my safe. the only weapon i have visible is a custom sawed-off that my brother made me for home protection. :shoota:
i personally own a few guns, but they are locked up in my safe. the only weapon i have visible is a custom sawed-off that my brother made me for home protection. :shoota:
