Nine killed at South Carolina church

[superbeets]

So if you don’t like the quote today, here is one from last year:


My biggest frustration has been that this society has not been willing to take some basic steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can do just unbelievable damage. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. And that it happens now once a week. And it’s a one day story.”


This “society” has a problem. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. Untrue.

 

[superbeets]

Parlez vous Hebdo? Because surely the president recalls that in January of this year two gunmen entered the office of a satirical magazine in France with an assortment of guns and murdered 11 people (and injured 11 more). After leaving, they killed a police officer. And in a marketplace catering to Jews another five were murdered and 11 wounded. France is, allegedly, an advanced country, is it not? Perhaps if Obama had attended the anti-terror rally in Paris like every other leader of advanced countries did, his recollection would be sharper.

 

[superbeets]

It take only takes some quick research to discover that rampage killers, acts of terror (as the Charleston shooting most certainly is), school attacks, spree killers are not unique to the United States.


In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp. This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history. Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences.



It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing. In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11.



Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year.




It should be noted that not that long ago advanced nations in Europe were busy throwing people into ovens or starving millions on purpose. The idea that violence is uniquely American is best left to fringe leftists on college campuses. Moreover, as The Associate Press reported in 2012, many experts contend that mass shootings are not growing in frequency at all. One has data that shows that mass shootings reached their peak in 1929 and have declined steadily since. Overall, gun violence has also been declining since 1993.





Now, even one shooting is a tragedy. What happened in Charleston is horrifying and heartbreaking, and there’s nothing wrong with having a debate about how to avoid shootings in the future. As for the frequency of these events, there can be a host of reasons why we might have more rampages. Maybe we’re freer and this puts us in more danger. Maybe we need better mental health policies. Maybe, as the president argues, we have access to too many guns. I don’t think so, but make that argument rather than trying to score political points with a falsehood.

 

[vitterd]

Not that I pay attention to your posts but I don't recall you ever challenging me on a wager. I would like to see it, if it does exist. Could it be like your Scott Walker recall prediction?...or maybe your John Wayne Gacy was a die hard Republican comment, or maybe it was the most recent promise that you would enter a site sponsored poker tournament? All of which were either wildly incorrect or just outrageous lies.

Either way, I would like to see your challenge. It seems when I fact check your posts there are often mistakes.

Uh, I confused 2 killers....strangely you keep bringing that up, even after I corrected myself. Really grasping at that one.

I have no idea what thread I asked but we can have BAS hold 5 dimes each for us....I will then provide him clear documentation of my tickets and if it isn't clear....money is yours.

I will enter the poker tournament this year....they run it every week. Oddly you won't get in it though.

Scott Walker was years ago....odd that you remember that....since that was well before your time here. These rx ghosts are everywhere. Under what previous name did you harass me?

any other idiotic comments of yours do you want me to take apart piece by piece or do you wanna stop looking like a fool?

 

[superbeets]

10 June , 2014

In the wake of those two tragic shootings, the president made this unbelievable claim:


Obama


"My biggest frustration has been that this society has not been willing to take some basic steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can do just unbelievable damage. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. And that it happens now once a week. And it's a one day story."



Uh, by "this society," Mr. President - you mean American society, right?
Regardless, that claim is flat-out wrong - and was wonderfully debunked by economist John Lott:
Does Obama not consider Norway a developed country? After all, Anders Breivik shot 69 people to death and wounded 110 others. That attack holds the record for a single-person shooting spree.
Is Germany a developed country? While the president focused on school shootings, he never acknowledged that two of the three worst K-12 school shootings have occurred in Germany since 2000, not in the United States. These were:
-- Erfurt, Germany on April 26, 2002: a former student killed 18 at a secondary school.
-- Winnenden, Germany, March 11, 2009: a 17-year-old former student killed 15 people, including nine students and three teachers.
A partial list of mass shootings in Europe from 2000 to early 2010 is available here.

 

[vitterd]

Just another quote republicans run with and look stupid.

You didn't build that.

What difference does it make.

And now this latest one that SB is spamming about

just when I think you morons can't be anymore dishonest....you drain a little more out of the pool.

 

[superbeets]

10 June , 2014



"My biggest frustration has been that this society has not been willing to take some basic steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can do just unbelievable damage. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. And that it happens now once a week. And it's a one day story."


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[mountain]

Uh, I confused 2 killers....strangely you keep bringing that up, even after I corrected myself. Really grasping at that one.

I have no idea what thread I asked but we can have BAS hold 5 dimes each for us....I will then provide him clear documentation of my tickets and if it isn't clear....money is yours.

I will enter the poker tournament this year....they run it every week. Oddly you won't get in it though.

Scott Walker was years ago....odd that you remember that....since that was well before your time here. These rx ghosts are everywhere. Under what previous name did you harass me?

any other idiotic comments of yours do you want me to take apart piece by piece or do you wanna stop looking like a fool?

So you say I ran from the hills on a bet with you and I question it and now you are backpedaling. Another out and out lie, you never challenged me to a bet.

As far as ghosts, I wouldn't even know how to go about that,ask BAS to check me out. Funny the things you can find in a search, you should know, you are the king of bumping old posts.....has nothing to do with being here at the time.

Quick, no searching....what section are your seats in for the Phils? No searching, need a fast response

 

[superbeets]

 

[mountain]

So you say I ran from the hills on a bet with you and I question it and now you are backpedaling. Another out and out lie, you never challenged me to a bet.

As far as ghosts, I wouldn't even know how to go about that,ask BAS to check me out. Funny the things you can find in a search, you should know, you are the king of bumping old posts.....has nothing to do with being here at the time.

Quick, no searching....what section are your seats in for the Phils? No searching, need a fast response

I can give you the date you posted if you need to go back to see what section you are in, this shouldn't be tough, taking way too long

 

[mountain]

I can give you the date you posted if you need to go back to see what section you are in, this shouldn't be tough, taking way too long

It starts with a 2

 

[vitterd]

So you say I ran from the hills on a bet with you and I question it and now you are backpedaling. Another out and out lie, you never challenged me to a bet.

As far as ghosts, I wouldn't even know how to go about that,ask BAS to check me out. Funny the things you can find in a search, you should know, you are the king of bumping old posts.....has nothing to do with being here at the time.

Quick, no searching....what section are your seats in for the Phils? No searching, need a fast response

back peddling??? Lol. I've challenged everyone who has questioned me....even the clear nitwits...a category you fit in.

So how about we just do the bet then?

So you're doing searches on me and you say my life is this site? I never put mountain in a search. You might be a tad obsessed with me.

My section has been posted here several times....you seem to be good at searching....you can find them I'm sure.

 

[mountain]

back peddling??? Lol. I've challenged everyone who has questioned me....even the clear nitwits...a category you fit in.

So how about we just do the bet then?

So you're doing searches on me and you say my life is this site? I never put mountain in a search. You might be a tad obsessed with me.

My section has been posted here several times....you seem to be good at searching....you can find them I'm sure.

You don't know do you? quit stalling, you have no idea where your season seats are do you?

 

[mountain]

You don't know do you? quit stalling, you have no idea where your season seats are do you?

You should have found it by now but a long time season ticket holder shouldn't have to search old posts to know where their seats are located

 

[vitterd]

You don't know do you? quit stalling, you have no idea where your season seats are do you?

Lmao. You caught me. I don't know where they are. My god you can't be this stupid.

Is is that a yes or no....I can have my money and docs to BAS after the weekend.

Hold on....I'm trying to find where I sit. Lol.

 

[mountain]

You should have found it by now but a long time season ticket holder shouldn't have to search old posts to know where their seats are located

wow, ok here is a hint: spring 2011

 

[vitterd]

wow, ok here is a hint: spring 2011

I can't find them. Don't know where I sit. You got me. Now that's over

so do we have a bet?

 

[superbeets]

 

[mountain]

I can't find them. Don't know where I sit. You got me. Now that's over

so do we have a bet?

Ok, write this down in case anyone ever questions you about your "season ticket" location. Section 224, Hall of Fame Section.

I find it funny that you make fun of the line of work I am in. Do you honestly believe I am going to send $5,000 to someone I have never met to hold funds from a person who everyone on this site knows is not a truthful person? If I make a wager on anything this ridiculous, I would have to verify the documents myself and I would be more than willing to do that. You always go to this line of defense knowing that no one in their right mind is going to take you up on the grading of the wager. I would rather send money to Nigeria find out who left me assets in their will. This is something that a con man and/or a bully would do and I will leave it at that.

You can carry on about how people back down from your wagers so feel free to claim victory. I have proven a point tonight that I have known since I joined this site.

 

[superbeets]

+14


Franklin's home in Columbia, SC, has an American flag hanging outside and a house sign saying 'The Roofs'

+14



Suspected shooter Dylann, 21, was unemployed and had lived 'on and off' with his father in recent years



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