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Biz is a good guy.... Dont follow him w my $$ or anything but always has good logic on his plays
 

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Biz is ok he does still post plays here and he’s posted plays from time to time over the years . The guy is not a scumbag . He hooked me up with a guy out of Michigan for cutting cable tv and getting premium sports and movie package 3 or 4 years ago I still have the tv service and the guy in Michigan is standup. I always assumed he had sports clients onside but that’s his business and like any other job you’re gonna follow your leads . So it makes sense he’s gonna be here it’s his passion and his market . Can’t knock him for that. I been on here since late 90s pretty much since internet began. Seen lots of people got tout from rodfather to Smokey to kojack. Take it all with a grain of salt . I’m a swimming pool builder and service guy Im here to have fun don’t waste all your time worrying about this nonsense. Life to short
Point taken! I jumped the gun a little. If B4L was betting a nickel or dime per unit then that's no biggie. But if he was betting 100 to 200 then that's God awful! Should have given him a refund at the very least!
 

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You can’t hate anyone for trying to make a buck however you can laugh and joke about it. I use to get up and watch pro line and laugh my ass off.
granted once in a while you would like what they were saying but it was fucking comical as all hell . Dave Cokin use to post here from time to time but there was nothing more ridiculous then these goons on tv
 

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You can’t hate anyone for trying to make a buck however you can laugh and joke about it. I use to get up and watch pro line and laugh my ass off.
granted once in a while you would like what they were saying but it was fucking comical as all hell . Dave Cokin use to post here from time to time but there was nothing more ridiculous then these goons on tv
True but wouldn't an ok guy give a refund for (depending on how much B4L was betting per unit) doing such a terrible job? If you ever did a shitty job on a pool I'm 100% certain you'd make it right.
 

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of course I eat shit all the time . The joys of working for yourself.
True but wouldn't an ok guy give a refund for (depending on how much B4L was betting per unit) doing such a terrible job? If you ever did a shitty job on a pool I'm 100% certain you'd make it right.
 

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BIZ has or had a paid telegram channel. I know because I subscribed for a time. Followed unit for unit for about 3 months, and lost 6k.
The only sport he won at during that period was the NFL.

You charge for picks BIZ. How is it you don't consider yourself a tout lol?
If you lost 6k betting with me thats on you pal.

I clearly tell everyone to bet the NFL far more than any other sport.

I crush the NFL every year, and we all make a ton on it.

If you managed to lose money with the way we hammer the NFL, then take up a new hobby.

You still want to blow BMM after everything people here say about him.

I have 100+ people on the Channel and they love it.

Good riddance, you're not missed.
 

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Thats just the last 2 years of NFL.

I have a guy that drops 100K+ when he asks for a play. I appreciate the 5K from him after a win.

So keep on hating @Bruins4Life.

Anyone can do a search and look up my posts, and see winner after winner.

2020 MLB was the best thread you'll find on this forum.

Imagine having these results and having someone claim 6k in losses.


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Go ahead and take the last word shithead, I probably won't see it for quite awhile.

This forum has turned to shit, a complete waste of time
 

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Not blaming you for anything BIZ.
Simply sharing my experience.
Gave you credit for your NFL picks. Especially first half unders.

6k loss over 2 or 3 months. Not life changing for me.
Live and learn.
 

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It comes down to greed if you ask me…. If your plays are sooooooo good, why do you need to “sell them” to make money. Why not bet them to give the books a taste of their own medicine and help others do that same? Greed, that’s why.
 

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If you lost 6k betting with me thats on you pal.

I clearly tell everyone to bet the NFL far more than any other sport.

I crush the NFL every year, and we all make a ton on it.

If you managed to lose money with the way we hammer the NFL, then take up a new hobby.

You still want to blow BMM after everything people here say about him.

I have 100+ people on the Channel and they love it.

Good riddance, you're not missed.
If you lost 6k betting with me thats on you pal.

I clearly tell everyone to bet the NFL far more than any other sport.

I crush the NFL every year, and we all make a ton on it.

If you managed to lose money with the way we hammer the NFL, then take up a new hobby.

You still want to blow BMM after everything people here say about him.

I have 100+ people on the Channel and they love it.

Good riddance, you're not missed.

Go ahead and take the last word shithead, I probably won't see it for quite awhile.

This forum has turned to shit, a complete waste of time

Not blaming you for anything BIZ.
Simply sharing my experience.
Gave you credit for your NFL picks. Especially first half unders.

6k loss over 2 or 3 months. Not life changing for me.
Live and learn.
Case in point! B4L just mentioned what happened to him in a cordial manner and Biz goes ape shit on him!!
 

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It comes down to greed if you ask me…. If your plays are sooooooo good, why do you need to “sell them” to make money. Why not bet them to give the books a taste of their own medicine and help others do that same? Greed, that’s why.
Because touts don't bet their own plays. If they did they would be broke
 

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The whole going service crap is bullshite -if they were so good they would get an office in Vegas win away -no need to sell picks -any person with sense should know this -cmon they pick there plays usually daysc before and many things can happen -they know no more than you -doing this almost 50 years -its all a scam -fading these services and going against the action only way to win long run-
 

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The whole going service crap is bullshite -if they were so good they would get an office in Vegas win away -no need to sell picks -any person with sense should know this -cmon they pick there plays usually daysc before and many things can happen -they know no more than you -doing this almost 50 years -its all a scam -fading these services and going against the action only way to win long run-

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Did Billy Walter's ever go tout lol?
 

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Since more than one of you have directed comments specifically at me, I'll address them all

I came here last night to read up on some NFL playoffs. I got home from work after dealing with the single biggest piece of shit who happens to be a semi reg at my room. A GR 1 fuckhead.

Then I come here and read I'm a "tout" and a "douchebag". That's before I said a single word. So I go from being annoyed from the shithead at my job, to a couple guys throwing words my way. Its almost 4am.

Do you guys know what a "tout" is?? It isn't simply someone offering a picks service. This is the definition.............."attempt to sell (something), typically by pestering people in an aggressive or bold manner."

@Bruins4Life have I ever pestered you in an aggressive or bold manner?? No I haven't.

@MagiCap I'm not pushing anything. I'm stating facts to people claiming I lose.

I have been on this Forum for 12+ years. I have contributed as much positive and quality picks and analysis as anybody. There are several others that have and many still post today. @G-Man! is very good.

This forum has been overrun by people that just want to run their mouth. The comments directed at me in this thread is just another example. I don't need to come here and be called a douchebag. It doesn't hurt my feelings at all, its just shows me the type of people that dominate this forum.

I started a Telegram Channel because it allowed me to control who exactly was in my chat room. It was open to the public until people started acting like they do here, so I charged a small fee.

Most people stayed and paid the small fee. You think I'm getting rich off of this?? Its to keep out the idiots, which my channel appreciates since they don't care for the nonsense either.

Miikey joined my service several years ago. I only know him through a few phone calls and texting. It is his main source of income, and I'll never tell a man how to make his money..............and the same should go for all of you. I have zero beef with him. We text occasionally and offer opinions on games.

Its really simple. If you don't want to subscribe to a service, then don't. But many of you want to flap your jaws and talk your shit.

There are financial advisors that lose people money. Should we shut down that line of business?? Are those people douchebags too??

This is what people who actually know me, and are on my channel say:

Honest, transparent, good guy. Can be a bit high strung. Works hard.

I'll take that over any insults people here, that don't know me, want to throw my way.

Go on Twitter if you want to see what a tout looks like. 10U bangers, live bets, every fucking emoji plastered all over their posts. Its a cesspool of scumbags and blowhards.

If my entire channel went away it wouldn't change my life at all.

Take away the discords and all the other avenues that pick sellers have, and it would impact them IMMENSELY.

Most are nothing but full time marketers. Very few keep an up to date record. Many charge 10X what I do. Gambling Twitter is the most nauseating place on earth.

I still come here and post, because its what I love to do. Handicap sports. I'm pretty good. Many here are really good people, some are absolute disgraces and shitheads.

yes @Loves2kickass most touts don't bet their own plays, they make too much money selling. I bet every play I put out, and if I didn't bet my NFL I would be a special kind of stupid.

@Bruins4Life I have no beef with you. You caught me in a foul mood and I responded.

@phdinsports scumbag douche?? You're out of line with that

Enjoy the games, hope you guys win some money
 

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